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salim -> RE: Where are you now? (5/16/2007 4:26:08 AM)

hello to all Iraqis and non Iraqis. I am new and want to just introduce myself.

age-25
home-damascus
love-Iraq
hate-all enemies of iraq
fav music-kathem , the doors , coldplay
fav movie-godfather
fav drink-vodka & tonic
hobbie-art , football , politics
fav saying-time to see the light and leave the darkness

hope you will welcome me. yours SALIM




azinorum -> RE: Where are you now? (5/16/2007 12:33:15 PM)

Welcome Salim. Hope you enjoy your time with us.

Heres a couple more Iraqi expressions translated by Wikiraqi:

ابرد من طيز السقا
Pronounced [ABRAD MEN TEEZ EL SAQA]
It refers to someone who is very cold and does not get affected by what happens around him or her. The literal translation is: 'Colder than the butt of the guy who serves and prepares the cold water that gets sold on the old streets of Baghdad 'Saqa' -- the waterer!]
 
In the old days, those waterers, carry the water in leather made containers on their back and sits on their butt. That's why their butt is cold. I guess the equivalent in the English language will be “he is so indifferent, he can be horizontal"
 
شايف روحه
Pronounced [SHAYEF ROHAAHH]
Literally means "Saw himself" which refers to someone looking in the mirror too much.. Yes you guessed it.. Narcissist.
Used to point to somone who gives himself/herself more value than he/she really deserves.




YellowSunshine -> RE: Where are you now? (5/16/2007 1:33:37 PM)

[8|]ok my bud, azinorum, u have me laughing so hard i can NOT see straight....
LOL big time
me




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where are you now? (5/17/2007 1:08:49 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: azinorum

ابرد من طيز السقا
Pronounced [ABRAD MEN TEEZ EL SAQA]



There is also a shorter expression that goes- من طيزي  MIN TEEZI. Leteral translation is "from my butt" and is used sarcasticaly to mean "highly unlikely". Keep um coming dude. Salam




zimzim -> RE: Where are you now? (5/17/2007 6:29:13 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: salim

hello to all Iraqis and non Iraqis. I am new and want to just introduce myself.

age-25
home-damascus
love-Iraq
hate-all enemies of iraq
fav music-kathem , the doors , coldplay
fav movie-godfather
fav drink-vodka & tonic
hobbie-art , football , politics
fav saying-time to see the light and leave the darkness

hope you will welcome me. yours SALIM


Hi Salim. I love coldplay too. are you in Iraq or like me living outside because it is impossible for us to live in our country. Zim




zimzim -> RE: Where are you now? (5/17/2007 6:32:50 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lion of Babylon
There is also a shorter expression that goes- من طيزي  MIN TEEZI. Leteral translation is "from my butt" and is used sarcasticaly to mean "highly unlikely". Keep um coming dude. Salam


LOB. So I & YS not alowed to bring a prayer on this forum but you can discuss butts. Do you see something wrong here? Are the butts you speak of political ones? [sm=smiley2.gif]




MassiveMistake -> RE: Where are you now? (5/17/2007 7:40:55 AM)

Hi my name is Simon from the UK [aka MASSIVE MISTAKE]. I wanted to touch base with Iraqis and get to know more about the culture and people of this great old nation. First please permit me to apologize for my governments ineptitude and two faced stance towards your country and its people. I want you all to understand that not all British voters agree with Blair's policy towards this war and its aftermath. Hundreds of thousands stood in unison against the invasion of Iraq but our perception of freedom and democracy has been dealt a massive blow. The government chose to ignore the people who voted them in in the first place and attack your country regardless of public opinion. I hope you will welcome my input and I look forward to learning more about you and your culture in what I hope will be a frank and open exchange of views and opinions. If you choose not to respond I for one won't hold it against you. Yours faithfully. S




Harry -> RE: Where are you now? (5/17/2007 9:06:00 AM)

Simon Aka (MM).
 
Welcome to our community, we welcome all good people and good discussions as long as they are honest, to the point, and free of bad language.
 
Your government (just like mine) only claims to be democratic and serving the people. My government lied to us, lied to the entire world, and they continue to lie through their teeth. Forgive me if I say that I do not consider the British government to be democratic at all, and that is because they never elect a person to occupy the highest office (not that we do here in the U. S.) At least we replace our so-called “LEADER” every four or eight years, whether we elect them or select them.
 
They only raged this idiotic war so they can re-divide Iraq’s oil wealth between them two; and attempt to keep it away from the Russians. All other reasons and excuses were nothing but a bunch of lies and deceitful stories to justify and cover up their evil intentions.




YellowSunshine -> RE: Where are you now? (5/17/2007 9:48:36 AM)

mr lion u can be sure that miss yellow is support Iraqis. we need more female to contrbiut 2 iraq4u so pls be more gentle & polite with miss yellow & zimzim. thank u. M. A.'s  quote... [sm=smiley31.gif]

once knew a simon, knick name was "babbling brooks".  could that man ever drink and babbled on and on and on some more.  a character, intelligent, somewhat strange, occasionally could be unkind, perhaps on purpose. who knows?

MM Welcome!




azinorum -> RE: Where are you now? (5/17/2007 10:23:47 AM)

Welcome MM. I echo Harry's sentiments and also look forward to an honest exchange of views. I think most people understand that most of the world protested against this war so there are no misconceptions here.




azinorum -> RE: Where are you now? (5/17/2007 10:25:28 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: zimzim

Are the butts you speak of political ones? [sm=smiley2.gif]


Best quote of the week by a mile. [sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif]




YellowSunshine -> RE: Where are you now? (5/17/2007 3:14:30 PM)

I am laughing so hard i snorted...ok i am out of the closet, i snort when i laugh hard...




azinorum -> RE: Where are you now? (5/17/2007 3:36:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lion of Babylon

There is also a shorter expression that goes- من طيزي  MIN TEEZI. Leteral translation is "from my butt" and is used sarcasticaly to mean "highly unlikely". Keep um coming dude. Salam


You should submit this to Wikiraqi.




azinorum -> RE: Where are you now? (5/17/2007 5:12:40 PM)

New article about the Alwiyah Club!

At Social Club for Baghdad's Elite, Escape Is a Weekly Game of Bingo
By Karin Brulliard Washington Post Staff Writer - Sunday, May 13, 2007
 
BAGHDAD -- A few dozen members of this city's privileged classes chatted on fraying armchairs at the Alwiyah Club on a recent Saturday, waiting for the weekly bingo game to start. The caller usually responsible for yelling out English letters and Arabic numbers -- "B-sabaa!" for B7 -- had not shown up since his sister was abducted and slain a few weeks before. But at this colonial-era social club, one of the last oases for the Baghdad elite, bingo is never canceled.

"We insist, so that people can always say, 'There is bingo,' " said Faris al-Douri, the club's secretary general.”We tried to save what we could save."
In the club's cavelike pub, the bartender still slides tumblers of whiskey across the teak bar to men in suits. On the dusty tennis courts, players still hit aces and break to sip tea from creamy porcelain cups.


"Nothing has changed," said Aayo Khaya, 65, a gaptoothed waiter who has worked for 35 years at the Alwiyah.
In fact, nearly everything has. This central Baghdad club, founded in 1924 by the British explorer and diplomat Gertrude Bell, has always considered itself a place apart. The bar serves English spirits, but not the Iraqi liquor arak. In the early years, before it opened to Iraq's upper crust, only foreigners were allowed; even now, new members must have university degrees. Yet despite the Alwiyah's efforts to preserve its image as a haven from the despair outside its walled gardens, the despair has crept in.

The bartender recently found a bloody bullet inside an envelope left on his car windshield, the latest threat from religious extremists who condemn the club's free flow of alcohol. A curfew means no more glittery galas under the seven-tiered ballroom chandelier, and a water shortage means just one of three swimming pools will be filled this summer. Most notably, the club's lifeblood -- Baghdad's elite -- has nearly vanished. On most days, attendance is 5 percent of what it was before the war.

"To be frank, most of the principal members of the club and their families are out of Iraq," said Douri, shrugging one April day in the club's management office as BBC news played on a television in the corner. "You've heard about all these explosions."
Yet the club has tenaciously held on to its long-standing bingo tradition. The other Saturday, club member Hassan Hadi Kadhim proudly carried a stack of bingo cards -stamped "EZ Play. Made in USA." - into the club's Sun Lounge, a hall decorated with Persian carpets and a rickety piano with no bench. Like nearly everything else in the Alwiyah, the cards were worn. Kadhim, 42, displayed them as if they were antique books.


Players who want a card pay Kadhim 1,000 dinars, about 75 cents, and hand over a piece of identification as collateral. The money goes into a pot from which cash prizes - usually about $3 per bingo - are pulled.
"It is a very nice, simple game," said Kadhim, a round-bellied man with sparkling brown eyes. In the back of the room, Zaid Mohammed, a 20-year-old engineering student in a dapper gray suit, shared a banquette with his parents. He tapped his fingers to the beat of the pop music that blared incongruously through the sedately adorned room.

"He is the one who brought me here," sighed his father, Mohammed Jassem, 55, with a wry smile. "I want to sleep."
"I want to have fun!" Mohammed protested. He had won last Saturday, a hopeful moment in a monotonous week.


But the bingo is not the fun it used to be, he conceded. Before the war, the game was played outside at night, under the tall palms. Electronic light boards displayed the numbers as they were called. On holidays, the game was elevated to "Grand Bingo," and winners reaped fancy watches. More than 1,000 people would play -- meaning the cash, and the games, lasted hours.

"You can say that such a thing has been exterminated," Kadhim said, glancing at the small crowd. Now the special occasion prizes are air conditioners and cellphones, more useful wartime items. Douri describes the club in terms of before and after April 9 -- the date in 2003 when U.S.-led forces drove President Saddam Hussein from power. In the post-invasion chaos, Shiite militiamen took over the clubhouse for a few months, he said. Club leaders later reclaimed it with the help of the U.S. military and found it looted and damaged.

The Alwiyah remains a sanctuary of sorts. Female members freely wear tight, western clothing and smoke with men. Guards and checkpoints have kept violence out. Sectarianism is frowned upon as "ignorant," said Douri, a bespectacled man with thinning gray hair. He and other club leaders keep trying. They hired a band to play at noon on Wednesdays. Douri plans to launch bridge tournaments once he finds a member still living in Iraq who can teach others to play. To keep up revenue - an individual membership costs about $375 initially, then about $20 yearly - leaders have opened the door to more families, a move some longtimers complain has let in riffraff.

"All the good people have fled," said Jassem, a member for 12 years. "And those who stayed right here, they have no wings to fly."

Jassem said he and his wife, Fetooh Mehemed, 51, come now only for the sake of their son, who has little else to do but sleep and study and is too afraid to drive himself. Their old club friends have escaped, Jassem said, leaning back on the banquette, his eyes moistening.

"The Iraqi people were expected to be happy when the American army got here," he said, removing his glasses to wipe away tears. "But they crushed the happiness in our hearts."

The music paused. "The cards are ready," the stand-in bingo caller announced.
Mohammed returned with three cards. Up front, the caller enthusiastically announced number-letter combinations: "I-27! N-34!"


Mohammed slid a tiny red plastic window across the I-27 on his card. Moments later, he slid it back. A man in the corner had yelled "Bingo!"

Mohammed had begged his friends to come to bingo, but none would brave the streets. Besides, he said, his circle of friends has shrunk as their families flee Iraq. Most of those who remain are acquaintances who tease him for his shaggy hair and his affinity for American singers such as Britney Spears and Lionel Ritchie.

"Every two months, I must look for new friends," Mohammed said. Over the next half-hour, a few more victors claimed cash, and riotous laughter rang out at a table full of men downing Carlsberg beers. Nearby, Saif Issam, 26, and a pal drank Pepsis and smoked French cigarettes. It was Issam's first trip to the Alwiyah in a long time, and he had spent 90 minutes in a taxi to get here. The small crowd shocked him.

"This club isn't worth it," Issam said. "Maybe in 25 years it will get better."
Soon the game ended, less than an hour after it began. Mohammed and his family gathered their things to leave. They had lost at bingo and probably wouldn't have electricity when they got home, his father said with a laugh. Then his smile faded.
"Iraqi society is just like any other society. Put it in a pure land, with pure water and you will see that it will give you the best roses," Jassem said. "Any society in the world that would suffer the circumstances we suffer, it would collapse."


Suddenly the music began to blast again, and joyful hollers came from the table of beer drinkers. With glasses in their hands and bleary smiles on their faces, they had risen to dance.




YellowSunshine -> RE: Where are you now? (5/18/2007 10:53:14 AM)

[:D][;)][:)][sm=smiley31.gif][sm=smiley27.gif][sm=smiley23.gif][sm=smiley24.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=rolleyes.gif][sm=smiley35.gif]
later taters, need to walk, clear my head that is on overload.
God Bless, Take Care.
I pray that God has surrounded you with HIS unseen protection.
Off/Topic?
Prayer Request
my son.
Thanks
me




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where are you now? (5/18/2007 3:13:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: YellowSunshine

[:D][;)][:)][sm=smiley31.gif][sm=smiley27.gif][sm=smiley23.gif][sm=smiley24.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=rolleyes.gif][sm=smiley35.gif]
later taters, need to walk, clear my head that is on overload.


Ahhh, yeah sure...OK...whatever!?? [sm=smiley22.gif][sm=smiley29.gif][sm=smiley5.gif]




zimzim -> RE: Where are you now? (5/19/2007 3:37:23 AM)

LB I respect your comments but is there any need to be so rude?

YS God bless you. [sm=smiley27.gif][sm=smiley31.gif]




Mout Ahmar -> RE: Where are you now? (5/19/2007 3:42:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: salim

hello to all Iraqis and non Iraqis. I am new and want to just introduce myself.

age-25
home-damascus
love-Iraq
hate-all enemies of iraq
fav music-kathem , the doors , coldplay
fav movie-godfather
fav drink-vodka & tonic
hobbie-art , football , politics
fav saying-time to see the light and leave the darkness

hope you will welcome me. yours SALIM


hi salim. welcome to iraq4you form a non iraqi.




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where are you now? (5/20/2007 1:33:29 AM)

Does anyone know if the moderators and owners of this site are Iraqis or ex-pat Iraqis? I notice they never participate in the discussions.




azinorum -> RE: Where are you now? (5/20/2007 5:02:30 PM)

2 moderators, Harry and tigris. Both in the States. No idea who started the website, shame there isn't a Bio on the founders. Here is the mission statement in case you havent seen it already.
This website started as a personal hobby back in 1997 out of love and longing for Iraq’s culture, its people and music. Therefore our mission statement has never changed and it was written to reinforce Iraq’s culture, its people and music. Our mission statement is a strong sign that this website does not affiliate itself with groups or organizations that favor a political or religious view. We are Iraqis who love and willing to help other Iraqis. 

Our Mission Statement 

"This site is for all Iraqis regardless of ethnic, religious or political background. Although we recognize all religions, ethnicity and political views in Iraq, we prefer not to indulge in religious and political discussions but rather focus on Iraq's culture, people and art, something we all love and miss dearly."
 
** Harry perhaps you can fill in the gaps.




Harry -> RE: Where are you now? (5/21/2007 8:51:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: azinorum

2 moderators, Harry and tigris. Both in the States. No idea who started the website, shame there isn't a Bio on the founders.
** Harry perhaps you can fill in the gaps.


The website starter is an Iraqi and “HE” does care about Iraq, and all Iraqis equally, as a matter of fact when our Kurdish friends complained about the site allowing only Arabic and English written posts: he created the “The Iraqi-Kurdish Issue” forum to help the Kurds write in their own language without moderation.
 
He is in the states; unfortunately I did not get the chance to meet him; he had to cut short his last visit to California, a couple of days before our meeting was to take place.
 
You can all write a PM to the “Admin”; and he will answer you when he gets the chance, since this is not what puts bread and butter on his dinner table. But believe me, “HE CARES”.[sm=smiley31.gif]




azinorum -> RE: Where are you now? (5/23/2007 2:51:26 AM)

Thanks for the info Harry. Any news on tigris?




salim -> RE: Where are you now? (5/23/2007 4:59:17 AM)

Tigris is dirty and brown and sometime you can see dead bodies floating in it. she is very sick. [X(]




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where are you now? (5/23/2007 5:42:14 AM)

[:D]




YellowSunshine -> RE: Where are you now? (5/23/2007 9:51:59 AM)

LOBab.
I do hope u r again teasing me with your remarks?
Now THAT is a ? is it not.
Beginning to wonder.
All have been very kind here in my experience...
Had a "freebie", gift, surprise, NOT
didn't take the bait
may check IT out again.
just the way IT IS.

yeppers Lion of Babylon...Lucy in the sky, WHATEVER...
sigh, big one here.

I am a strange one, do I care, NOPE! (alWAYS have been one, can't change now)

God Bless you today.
take care
me

hey zimzim, [:D], hey M. Am. [:)], hey harry [8|], hey azin. [8|]

GOD BLESS THE WHOLE WORLD (that is one heck of a mess, makes me feel ill, can hardly watch the news, somex's I can ALMOST feel the shots, bombs, etc...)  I am so [:'(] of it..... we have this beautiful gift, and I WANT TO SCREAM WHAT HAVE WE DONE TO IT????????????????????????????????????/

[sm=smiley27.gif]





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