ORIGINAL: YellowSunshine we ARE ALL HUMAN, imperfect, however have the capacity for love, irregardless of race PERIOD!!!
Agreed. But some people are more imperfect than others.
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My life has been extremely unconventional, have been through much and am lucky to be alive, it is only by the Grace of God that I am here. Several times it was next to a miracle that I am alive. So I figure God still has me on this earth for some purpose.
Those with unconventional lives make the most interesting people. I've had a few miracles of my own. Tell you mine if you tell me yours. All the best Azinorum
Yeppers indeed!!! Most of my friends have been "different" a tad unconventional and ALWAYS interesting! God Bless, more later, TAKE CARE my friends! T.R.
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2morow i will fly to qatar for 4 days. i am going on business but will have time in the nite to see the city doha. do anyone on iraq4u have any advise for where i can go and what is intresting? i will apreciate any advise. thanks
As your only staying for 3 nights I would suggest the Paloma in the Intercontinental (drinks and music). If you want to have a quiet beer try the Movenpick. Ridges is also a good place to have a drink and meet people. I was only there for 2 nights 3 years ago so didn't see that much myself. In any case I'm sure your hosts will have everything planned in advance. Enjoy your trip.
Thanks Azi i used to stay in the Sahara near the mosque in city centre, near safeway. They were fantastic last time I was there. I really can't wait to have real Arak, real Kebabs, and most of all good company. Inshallah
Let me know when you decide to come but avoid the Rebuild Iraq Expo in April because all hotels will be fully booked during this period.
Off Topic: Came across this article written in the Toronto Sun. Many of the sentiments expressed by the author are correct in my opinion. Given that Chemical Ali's trial is coming up I thought I'd be an interesting read. All the best Azinorum
By Eric Margolis, The Toronto Sun - 04/01/07
Who was the first high government official to authorize use of mustard gas against rebellious Kurdish tribesmen in Iraq? If your answer was Saddam Hussein's cousin, the notorious "Chemical Ali" -- aka Ali Hassan al-Majid -- you're wrong. The correct answer: Sainted Winston Churchill. As colonial secretary and secretary for war and air, he authorized the RAF in the 1920s to routinely use mustard gas against rebellious Kurdish tribesmen in Iraq and against Pashtun tribes on British India's northwest frontier.
Iraq's U.S.-installed regime has just announced al-Majid, one of Saddam's most brutal henchmen, will stand trial next week for war crimes. Al-Majid is accused of ordering the 1988 gassing of Kurds at Halabja that killed over 5,000 civilians. He led the bloody suppression of Iraq's Shias, killing tens of thousands. These were the same Shias whom former U.S. president George Bush called to rebel against Saddam's regime, then sat back and did nothing while they were crushed.
The Halabja atrocity remains murky. The CIA's former Iraq desk chief claims Kurds who died at Halabja were killed by cyanide gas, not nerve gas, as is generally believed. At the time, Iraq and Iran were locked in the ferocious last battles of their eight-year war. Halabja was caught between the two armies that were exchanging salvos of regular and chemical munitions. Only Iran had cyanide gas. If the CIA official is correct, the Kurds were accidentally killed by Iran, not Iraq.
But it's also possible al-Majid ordered an attack. Kurds in that region had rebelled against Iraq and opened the way for invading Iranian forces. What's the difference between the U.S. destroying the rebellious Iraqi city of Fallujah and Saddam destroying rebellious Halabja? What difference does it make if you're killed by poison gas, artillery or 2,000-pound bombs?
"Chemical Ali" was a brute of the worst kind in a regime filled with sadists. I personally experienced the terror of Saddam's sinister regime over 25 years, culminating in threats to hang me as a spy.
Saddam Hussein and his entourage should face justice. But not in political show trials just before U.S.-"guided" Iraqi elections nor in Iraqi kangaroo courts. They should be sent to the UN's war crimes tribunal in The Hague, where Saddam should be charged with the greatest crime he committed -- the invasion of Iran, which caused one million casualties.
Britain, the U.S., Kuwait and Saudi Arabia convinced Iraq to invade Iran, and then covertly supplied Saddam with money, arms, intelligence, and advisers. Meanwhile, Israel secretly supplied Iran with $5 billion US in American arms and spare parts while publicly denouncing Iran for terrorism.
Up to their ears Who supplied "Chemical Ali" with his mustard and nerve gas? Why, the West, of course. In late 1990, I discovered four British technicians in Baghdad who told me they had been "seconded" to Iraq by Britain's ministry of defence and MI6 intelligence to make chemical and biological weapons, including anthrax, Q-fever and plague, at a secret laboratory at Salman Pak.
The Reagan administration and Thatcher government were up to their ears in backing Iraq's aggression, apparently with the intention to overthrow Iran's Islamic government and seize its oil. Italy, Germany, France, South Africa, Belgium, Yugoslavia, Brazil, Chile and the USSR all aided Saddam's war effort against Iran, which was even more a victim of naked aggression than was Kuwait in 1991.
I'd argue senior officials of those nations that abetted Saddam's aggression against Iran and supplied him with chemicals and gas should also stand trial with Ali and Saddam. What an irony it is to see U.S. forces in Iraq now behaving with much the same punitive ferocity as Saddam's army and police -- bombing rebellious cities, arresting thousands, terrorizing innocent civilians, torturing captives and sending in tanks to crush resistance.
In other words, Saddamism without Saddam. A decade ago, this column predicted that when the U.S. finally overthrew Saddam, it would need to find a new Saddam.
Finally, let's not forget that when Saddam's regime committed many of its worst atrocities against rebellious Kurds and Shiites, it was still a close ally of Washington and London. The West paid for and supplied Saddam's bullets, tanks, gas and germs. He was our regional SOB.
the above is just plain disgusting...something MUST be done to stop this Madness!!! There are ONLY a handfull that have enough compassion/courage to try to make a difference w/out violence... PAST TIME TO GET SOME WORLDWIDE PEOPLE TOGETHER THAT REALLY DO GIVE A "RIP" , WANT THE BOTTOM LINE FACTS. perhaps i have lost my mind, in dream land...sigh... i do think grouping together people of different races, countries, etc., would be more effective!!!
on a lighter note, we are getting some very nasty weather here! major snow, slippery! i do think i may have to have someone care for my arabian horses some distance from me, am not sure i want to drive in this mess!!!
take care my friends and have a wonderful day, if possible!
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Faith, Hope and Love, the Greatest of these is LOVE!!!
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell
i return friom doha early but have to go back in 10 days. doha want to be like dubai but not there yet. very nice, moden and excelent faciltees. i can recomend to anyone to go. weather is great too.
Welcome back Mout. Been very busy and my ADSL have been playing up for the last 2 days. I'll try to be quick in case I get cut off again. I'm just checking my inbox and will post the UNHCL details ASAP.
Just found this site. I think its from the creators of Wikipedia but not sure. It allows Iraqis to discuss. add and correct enteries just like Wikipedia. A great idea started by Iraqis so we should support it.
Some great old Iraqi sayings translated into English by Wikiraqi.
ابرد من طيز السقا Pronounced (ABRAD MIN TEEZ AL SEKA) used torefer to somone who is very cold and does not get affected by what happens around him or her. The literal translation is: 'Colder than the butt of the guy who serves and prepares the cold water that gets sold on the old streets of Baghdad 'Saqa' -- the waterer!] In the old days, those waterers, carry the water in leather made containers on their back and sits on their butt. That's why their butt is cold.
عمت عين البامية اشكد تنفخ Pronounced (EMAT EEN EL BAMYA SHEGAAD TENFOOKH) used to point to somone who gives herself/himself more value than he/she really deserves.
ماكو هيجي زنبور يخرة عسل Pronounced (Mako Hichi Zanbour yikhra Asal) an expression of disbelief used to describe a person doing something out of character, apparently with an ulterior motive behind his/her actions. translation: "There is no wasp that excretes honey"
لزكة مال جونسون Prounounced (LAZGA MAL JONSON) Refers to someone who has clearly overstayed his welcome with others. Originated from the Johnson & Johnson Deep-Heat Patch for back pains and muscular cramps. when applied, it would stick securely to the desired area. Removal is usually painful and accompanied by hair-loss in the area (due to the strength of the glue material) also expressed simply as (لزكة جونسون). translation: "Sticker from Johnson"
yellow is back!!! missed u too! (tho. been on off/on) referring to a couple posts back here is my experience with moonshine...everyone got nasty, fought, threw up, etc...hangovers were terrible...not good stuff, at least the moonshine i had, of course that was back in the 70's...
dubai is wonderful, been there, still have spices purchased there, have been frozen, packaged good, still good as used last night, made a delicious din, made naan bread, etc... matter of fact just had again for breakfast!
the only thing that i really regret is that while in dubai i did not have the opportunity to visit some arabian horse farms...probably will never get that opportunity again, sigh... i LOVED the arabian signs up on the freeway (or what ever it's referred to over there, roadway?)... my passion is arabian horses, the best, most intelligent, easiest to train, kindest, bond with owners, etc... have had many, bred many, etc... still have 2.
oh, in the dubai airport there is a mural...i wrote to someone after that visit wanting to know where i could purchase a copy to frame, never got an answer, perhaps someone could help me with this, it IS GORGEOUS!!!
God Bless All today,
TR
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Faith, Hope and Love, the Greatest of these is LOVE!!!
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell
Azinorum, thanks for the posts above, perhaps if i could learn one tiny thing per day i could remember. difficult as am going thru. the female "mental pause" as my son refers to it....... hope i do not insult anyone by saying this, in this country it is acceptable.
Later ... xxxooo
TR
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Faith, Hope and Love, the Greatest of these is LOVE!!!
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell
Azinorum, thanks for the posts above, perhaps if i could learn one tiny thing per day i could remember. difficult as am going thru. the female "mental pause" as my son refers to it....... hope i do not insult anyone by saying this, in this country it is acceptable.
Later ... xxxooo
TR
I'll post a few more for you from time to time. Don't worry about whats acceptable or not, this is a free speech forum. Just as long as you don't call anyone a F#*^#G B*4# you'll be just fine.
hello yellow. good i am happy u didnt leve the forum. we need more femail opinion. i am travekling to doha on satrday then after 3 days i go 2 dubai 4 2 nites. may be i will have the chance 2 c a arabiian stud farm when i am in the uae. welcome back 2 iraq4u.
Hi everyone! Im new here so please be gentle. Well you wanted more female input so I guess that makes me the second lady on this forum. Ill need some more time to browse your topics before posting something serious. I was born in Mangeish, Northern Iraq but lived in Baghdad most of my life. Im out of Iraq now since 2003 but have family still in dear sad old Baghdad. My goodness what a tragedy, I'm sure you all feel the same. I must confess that I have lost all hope for Iraq. We were living and behaving like animals now. Sorry for being so negative but after all these years of Saddam and now this. Its too much to bere for anyone.
خوش بطة تلعب شناو (khosh butta til'ab shnaw) An expression you say when someone tells you a lie or something really impossible to believe (like a duck doing push-ups). Shnaw means literally 'Push-ups' Used mostly in Iraq in Iraq to train soldiers or even to punish them. Translation: Good duck, doing push-ups
كل لشة وتتعلگ من كراعها (Kul Lisha ou Tit'allag min kra'ha) This is used to dismiss the thought of collective responsibility for a certain action. It is made explicitly clear that everyone in a group is responsible for his/her actions and those alone, as he/she should not carry the burden of others' deeds. The origin stems from the meat market, in which butchers hang each carcass they are working on from its own legs, as it is not possible to do otherwise. Translation: "each carcass gets hanged by its own legs"
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Yeppers indeed!!! Most of my friends have been "different" a tad unconventional and ALWAYS interesting! God Bless, more later, TAKE CARE my friends! T.R.
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the above is just plain disgusting...something MUST be done to stop this Madness!!! There are ONLY a handfull that have enough compassion/courage to try to make a difference w/out violence... 
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yellow is back!!! missed u too! (tho. been on off/on) referring to a couple posts back here is my experience with moonshine...everyone got nasty, fought, threw up, etc...hangovers were terrible...not good stuff, at least the moonshine i had, of course that was back in the 70's... 
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