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azinorum -> RE: Where are you now? (3/7/2007 3:44:31 AM)

Seems easy enough!

A Quick Recipe for Making Moonshine
 
 The basic ingredients:

  • corn meal
  • sugar
  • water
  • yeast
  • malt
The basic process:
 
Mix all ingredients together in a large container. After mixing, move the mixture, called "mash," into a still and leave it to ferment. How quickly this process occurs depends on the warmth of the mash.

Heat the mash to the point of vaporization at 173 degrees. The mash will produce a clear liquid, often the color of dark beer. You must watch this process with careful attention.
 
Trap vapor using a tube or coil. The vapor will be transferred into a second, empty container. The resulting condensation is the moonshine. It is then ready to drink or sell.
 
Keep mash in container. It is now called "slop." Add more sugar, water, malt, and corn meal and repeat the process.
 
Repeat the process up to eight times before replacing the mash.




Calm -> RE: Where are you now? (3/7/2007 7:39:33 AM)

Salam

Azinorum hold on a minute, let me check on Ebay to see if I can get a deal on the equipment.  Why waste money on new one????  Something to practice with, hey what do you say?  You probably need to ask Harry for some hints, he lives in America.

I have tried some Pouchin from Ireland, god that stuff was like paint remover.  My ex-mother in law tried to kill me I think, but when I lived in Ireland for 3 months, they did use it as a paint remover, with 96% alcohol what else can you use it for.

I had a lovely bottle of Fituo yesterday.  I was one of the first importers of this wine in early 80's (good old days). 

This wine is not a maturing one, 2/3 years the wine is at it best.  Full bodied with a distinct charcol oak flavour.  Try it and see.




azinorum -> RE: Where are you now? (3/7/2007 8:11:55 AM)

The Asriyah Arak factory on Al sedda was closed down by those killjoys jihoosh Al Mehdi. I could make inquiries to see if the owners are interested in selling us some of their distilling equipment, buy it, move it into a shed and get brewing. We could flavor the moonshine much as they do with Vodka these days and sell it by the barrel (teneka). [:D]




Calm -> RE: Where are you now? (3/7/2007 1:29:04 PM)

My friend those jihoosh Al Mehdi might think its a factory producing weapons of mass distruction.  Maybe it is in the long run who knows!!!!
We could be rich, it might be used in cars too as a fuel, or another form of torture when its shoved up where the sun doesn't rise.  Multi task factory...yes my friend i am all for it, and I can see this will bring peace to the region as everything else failed.  Way to go.




Mout Ahmar -> RE: Where are you now? (3/9/2007 1:47:35 PM)

I think in baghdad now if anyone find out about this plan u guys are going to get killed. [:(]




azinorum -> RE: Where are you now? (3/9/2007 2:59:41 PM)

Good evening to everyone. I just wanted to share an experience I had last night which highlighted how its not only political and religious differences that must be addressed. There also appears to be another divide with a different slant. Last night I was in a bar in Amman and there were some separate groups of Iraqis having a few drinks and chatting about Iraq and so on. The group I walked in with were Iraqis who'd lived outside Iraq and returned after the war only to be forced out again because of the worsening situation. The second group were Iraqis who'd lived all their lives in Baghdad and they were in Amman because of some threats or family kidnappings. In any case it was clear to see between both sets of friends that those who'd been in Iraq longest were dismissive of the ex pat crowd's thoughts and feelings on what was happening in Iraq. I found this to be very odd and really quite sad. All were born in Iraq, educated in Iraq, parents are Iraqi but their lives took different paths along the way. This separation issue among us has gone to the extreme. I enjoy an "acceptable tag" from both groups because I've studied and worked in the UK but returned back in 92 when we still had a self ruling government (of sorts). In any case, from my "acceptable" point of view I was very disappointed to see how petty we have become and how we actually enjoy labeling ourselves into groups rather than discuss issues as a whole. We are sinking fast because of these petty, self created differences which don't allow us to see past our noses. Maal Asaf. When will we wake up?  [sm=smiley18.gif].




Calm -> RE: Where are you now? (3/9/2007 7:57:35 PM)

Salam my friends

I agree with you my friend, some of us were labelled for leaving Iraq for one reason or the other, it is very sad.

To rule a country as a whole a country like ours is impossible, we have so many different cultures, different ethnic groups, and so on.  Over powering smaller groups is much easier, therefore the last government did it's best to widen the divide, and when the allies came in, did a better job by seperating people even futher apart, simply its easier to control.  I bet someone told you that you weren't there so you don't know whats going on.  I've been told that, but they forget we can see more from the outside, then those on the inside.  Most of us didn't leave by choice, we were forced out in one way or the other, and for one reason or the other.
I am and I believe most of the people who are living outside the country are proud to be Iraqis, proud to defend who we are, but the hands of evil is keeping us away from our homeland.
I have been away for almost 33 yrs, but there never been a day without me listening to the news, sharing the heartache of the nation, asking question, writing to many different politicians.  We care, we love our country despite whats happening there at the moment.  And those people my friend, they lack eduction, they lack many things, they forgot how to be humans again.  They need time to adjust, after all wherever you go, you'll get the good and the bad.





Mout Ahmar -> RE: Where are you now? (3/10/2007 5:01:40 PM)

shame even the iraqis outside iraq dont trust each other. i really dont know why this is happening. was it always like this and i didnt c it. mybe i am looking at it wrong. can someone explain why iraqis dont agree?




azinorum -> RE: Where are you now? (3/10/2007 5:32:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mout Ahmar
was it always like this and i didnt c it. mybe i am looking at it wrong. can someone explain why iraqis dont agree?


No it wasn't always like this. In fact I never noticed anything like this mistrust. Everyone is suspicious about everything and no one is listening anymore. It looks as if these wars have gotten the best of us and we've all gone mad. [sm=smiley6.gif]




Mout Ahmar -> RE: Where are you now? (3/10/2007 7:01:51 PM)

yes it seems like a kind of madnes. i hope it is temporary.




Calm -> RE: Where are you now? (3/10/2007 7:11:10 PM)

Salam my beautiful friend

I trust you Azinorum and moat ahmer, and few others.  In fact I am writing a book about Iraq which i hope to finish it in the next few months.
When the Baath party came to power, many people joined it, supported it, whether they believed in it or not, a nod in the head meant yes, and that was all what was needed.  Those were the ideal candidates for a Nobel prize for hypocracy if one was invented. 
I have seen them, walking into a restaurant eating and drinking, then putting their guns on the table and leave without paying.  Walking into a night club in Baghdad with simply showing their ID's even when single men weren't allowed in.  So many stories like that.  The good members then created a new security to look for these thugs and kick them out of the Party (Good old days).  Later on, the secret police (Al-Amin) and (Al-Istekbarat) also (Special Intelligent) recruited thousands of supporters.  A brother couldn't trust his brother, a father cpouldn't trust his kids, a mother afraid of her own family, everyone was afraid to speak their mind even in private in case they get prosecuted by the government.
Saddam won, he ruled for so many years, creating a new society that no one trusted anyone.  My neighbours, the boys I went to parties with, walked 52 street together (chasing girls), drove Al-Arrasat looking for new girlfriends, played marbels with when we were kids, I fired their hand guns when I was 20 thinking it was fun, and not thinking that they were government spies.  That is the society Saddam created.




azinorum -> RE: Where are you now? (3/11/2007 6:24:56 AM)

Calm: Whats the title of your book? In arabic or English?




Mout Ahmar -> RE: Where are you now? (3/11/2007 7:19:23 AM)

english pls! [&:]




Calm -> RE: Where are you now? (3/11/2007 10:15:25 PM)

hello my friends

The book is a novel about a writer in Iraq between 1963 - 74.  All events are true, and its in english.  The title has been changed time and time again, I think I will leave it to the publisher if ever it will be accepted, and i believe it will.  Another point is whether t use my own name, or a pen name, I have had many short stories and poems published in arabic and english, and under so many different names.  I shall see, but you will be the first to know.

Thanks




sadiq2006 -> RE: Where are you now? (3/12/2007 11:32:56 AM)

calm
 
i wish if you write about iraq from the uppor north of mesopotamia from haran and diyar baker till south of iraq and never mention about kurdistan becaus it is all fake from the kurds.




Calm -> RE: Where are you now? (3/12/2007 7:14:28 PM)

Sadiq

Iraq has many ethenic people.  They were born in Iraq, educated in Iraq and worked hard for Iraq.  In my university time, I had many friends who were Kurds, many were Turkimans, other were Sunnis, Shiats, Armenians, Christians from different sects, even Jews.  I said this before, there are good and bad in every race, every religion, every country and every society.
Iraq is an amazing country, rich in history, yet what history are we making now for the future.
My concerns are all those 100 of thousands of young Kurds wasting their time, wasting their future, wasting their money, their reputation, their principles in life, cultures and traditions, and living outside Iraq.  Europe is full of them, and they are creating a feeling of dislike in the european people.




sadiq2006 -> RE: Where are you now? (3/13/2007 3:52:15 AM)

calm
 
understand what i am saying to you write about the true mesopotamia and about the people how are faking the history and telling lies to people do you understand me calm, i made very clear for you.




azinorum -> RE: Where are you now? (3/13/2007 5:05:02 AM)

Sadiq: the problem with posting such long reports is that most people don't have time to read them. Also the text is very small which doesn't make things easier.

Here are some Mesopotamia sites you might find interesting:

Archaic Mesopotamia images
http://www.hp.uab.edu/image_archive/ue/uea.html

Ancient civilizations: Mesopotamia
http://www.mesopotamia.co.uk/staff/resources/background/bg03/home.html

Mesopotamia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesopotamia

Internet Ancient History Sourcebook: Mesopotamia
www.fordham.edu/halsall/ancient/asbook03.html




Mout Ahmar -> RE: Where are you now? (3/17/2007 9:31:09 AM)

i just returned to amman from irbid and there is reasly a big diference between amman and the rest of jordan. anyway iam glad to be back in civilisation at least for 2 days. i hear on the news today about this chemical atack in iraq. i pray and hope that this will not be the new fashion for these killers. iraqi peoples must unite now before it is to late. they must unite against this al qaida and other iran forces to make iraq clean again. if they do not do this now then soon it will be to late for iraq. usa ca not do this alone. other countries must join to stop this disaster but the most important is that all iraqi people unite. do it now!




azinorum -> RE: Where are you now? (3/17/2007 3:13:52 PM)

You're preaching to the converted. It seems Iraqis aren't ready to be united. I don't know what it'll take to bring unity but the first step is security. Hit them and hit them hard. Stop trying to please everyone and do whatever is necessary to put the fear of god into the hearts of these criminals and militias. If that offends one group or another, tough luck.




mina2005 -> RE: Where are you now? (3/17/2007 4:51:41 PM)

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Mout Ahmar -> RE: Where are you now? (3/20/2007 5:21:12 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: azinorum

You're preaching to the converted. It seems Iraqis aren't ready to be united. I don't know what it'll take to bring unity but the first step is security. Hit them and hit them hard. Stop trying to please everyone and do whatever is necessary to put the fear of god into the hearts of these criminals and militias. If that offends one group or another, tough luck.


may be i dont have the rite to make such coment because i am not iraqi but i think you r right and forget democratic system now. first secur iraq in any way posible.




azinorum -> RE: Where are you now? (3/20/2007 6:07:35 PM)

security - stability - national reconciliation - national unity - education and then finally we might be ready for democracy and human rights. Its going to be a very long road.




Mout Ahmar -> RE: Where are you now? (3/29/2007 3:50:26 AM)

this is correct [sm=smiley20.gif]




YellowSunshine -> RE: Where are you now? (4/1/2007 8:42:21 AM)

Yes they do, it is too late now, the damage is done, and there is no turning back.
The democratic congress now is only playing the role of objecting what the republicans are doing. However, at the end of the day, they both want to abuse the exploitation of the region economically for the benefit of the United States, and remaining there is there best bet to accomplish that.
 
They are now fighting two wars, one to get their hands on the regions resources; the other would be against the nuclear advancements of Iran, although they are labeling it as “stabilizing the region”.

Harry's quote above, No X to read thru this whole thread but read part, have to go to church...

Harry, I couldn't have said it better!!!  God Bless you my friend!  I just joined AARP for a membership, that says my age. 

Have been married to a Pakistani and have a son by that marriage.  It did not work out for many reasons that are not important at this time.  However, I met many kind loving people in that time and know that we ARE ALL HUMAN, imperfect, however have the capacity for love, irregardless of race PERIOD!!!

I live in the US, Michigan.  Have lived in California (Bay area), UK also and traveled to many countries.  My life has been extremely unconventional, have been through much and am lucky to be alive, it is only by the Grace of God that I am here.  Several times it was next to a miracle that I am alive.  So I figure God still has me on this earth for some purpose.

Anyway, have to get ready for church, love to ALL!!!  Have a wonderful day (if possible), take care, later my friends!

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