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azinorum -> Is this what we want for our children? (1/27/2007 3:52:44 AM)

No comment!!

ashoura for kids part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXiFuWT8Mis

ashura kids latmiya part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpdbzWnLEos

ashura kids latmiya part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AKq43htHgQ

ashura kids latmiya part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARFV_e6k9mQ



al ani -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (1/27/2007 6:56:14 AM)

السلام عليكم
تعتبر الايام العشرة الاولى من شهر عاشوراه ايام مقدسة في التاريخ الاسلامي ففيها نجى ابراهيم عليه السلام من النار  وفيها شق نبي الله موسى عليه السلام البحر ليتخلص من اعدائه وفيها نجى نبي الله يونس بعد ان خرج من بطن الحوت وفياه نال سيدنا الحسين عليه السلام ورفاقه الابرار الشهادة في كر وبلاء وهذه الذكريات تجلب انتباه العالم الاسلامي الى هذه الايام المقدسة فقد لاحظ رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم ان اليهود يصوموا يوم العاشر من عاشوراه ولما سئلهم المسلمون قالوا هو يوم نجى موسى من اعدائه وشق البحر فقال عليه الصلاة والسلام انا اولى بموسى وساصوم اليوم التاسع والعاشر من عاشوراه ما دمت حيا ونرى كيف الامور تحولت لدى الاخوان الشيعة في ايران او حتى العراق الى عمليلت لطم وبكاء واسالة الدماء بينما يلتزم السنه في عمل الفواتح وقراءة القران بكثرة على شهيدنا الكبير الحبيب جدنا الحسين ابن علي عليه السلام وكرم الله وجه ابيه واله الطيبين الطاهرين من الادناس الذين لم يسفكوا دماء الامة الا لمرضاة الله  واحسرتاه على هذا الشباب الذي يصنعه الكبار للترهات لقد توفي صلى الله عليه وسلم شهيد السم من قبل اليهودية وتوفي اصحابه الكرام جميعا بالشهادة رضي الله عنهم جميعا وارضاهم ولم يعمل المسلمون هذه البدع عليهم نطلب من الله العفو والمغفرة والسلام عليكم 



Calm -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (1/27/2007 12:40:06 PM)

Salam my friends

I have travelled to many countries around the world, I also watched many cultured films.  I showed those clips to very religious friends of mine from Najif.
Their words were simple, you never see any Mullahs doing that, this is brain wash from early age.  If you hit yourself day and night, and whenever you were told, whats left between the ears is empty space.

In other words, this should be controlled to certain age, after good medical examination, and only allowed to the very few.  My friends the shias don't have to prove their devotion to their believes by hurting themselves.  Allah never ever asked us to do that, in fact it is a haram act to hurts god's creation, which is us.

I am not anti shias, I am a simple man who believes in the power of mind, than the power of inflicting pain.  But who am I to say this is wrong or right?




sadiq2006 -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (2/12/2007 6:42:02 PM)

calm
 
salam to you,
 
i am like you i like peace to iraq.  



azinorum -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (2/16/2007 2:44:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Calm
I have travelled to many countries around the world, I also watched many cultured films.  I showed those clips to very religious friends of mine from Najif. Their words were simple, you never see any Mullahs doing that, this is brain wash from early age. If you hit yourself day and night, and whenever you were told, whats left between the ears is empty space.

In other words, this should be controlled to certain age, after good medical examination, and only allowed to the very few.  My friends the shias don't have to prove their devotion to their believes by hurting themselves.  Allah never ever asked us to do that, in fact it is a haram act to hurts god's creation, which is us.

I am not anti shias, I am a simple man who believes in the power of mind, than the power of inflicting pain.  But who am I to say this is wrong or right?


It should be outlawed completely. Children don't need this at any age. Archaic, backward and unhealthy. Time to move into the 21st century and leave these barbaric practices behind.



Mout Ahmar -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (2/20/2007 9:46:29 AM)

this is realy terible and ugly. this is not civilized and make islam look bad. cild is innocent and easy to influence. thhis way they dont let the kids have choice. they brainwash them early to make them easy to control when they become adult. i hate this kind of stuff.



azinorum -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (2/25/2007 6:15:04 PM)

I think this is happening in Iraq too. Perhaps Saifali might have heard of such classes in Najaf?



Mout Ahmar -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (2/27/2007 12:24:39 PM)

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ORIGINAL: azinorum

I think this is happening in Iraq too.


i dont think iraqis will do this with children. this is iran and baghdad must be careful because iran want this for iraq too. i dont understand this. i know that othewr religions also do this sacrifice but only for adults not for children.



azinorum -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (2/27/2007 12:38:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mout Ahmar
i dont think iraqis will do this with children.


I think you might be surprised. [sm=smiley11.gif]



azinorum -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (3/7/2007 11:54:02 AM)

Check the guy on the far left of the screen. Just as he sees the camera he stops chewing on his tooth pick and starts to weep. You might have to watch it twice but its worth it. [:D]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPZHE6nHNeI



Mout Ahmar -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (3/9/2007 4:53:32 PM)

wow this forum is fast, i didnt see this first time. this is so funny and this man is such a lier. he was wearing muslim cleric clothes yes? what does this mean?



azinorum -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (3/9/2007 5:24:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mout Ahmar

wow this forum is fast, i didnt see this first time. this is so funny and this man is such a lier. he was wearing muslim cleric clothes yes? what does this mean?


This is what politics does to religion. Everyone is putting on he big show, even camera conscious Imams. It would be very funny if it wasn't so terribly sad and cheap. People using religion for personal gain, no more no less.



Mout Ahmar -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (3/10/2007 7:12:11 PM)

this happen in christian religon too. most preists they drink, smoke and even enjoy women but in oublic they tell the people to live clean etc. the vatican is a big business city which now making profit is more imoportant than  anything else. the head of the religions are not protecting their faith only their bank balance.



azinorum -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (3/11/2007 6:27:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mout Ahmar
the head of the religions are not protecting their faith only their bank balance.


Sad but very true. [sm=smiley11.gif]



YellowSunshine -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (3/24/2007 7:26:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mout Ahmar

this is realy terible and ugly. this is not civilized and make islam look bad. cild is innocent and easy to influence. thhis way they dont let the kids have choice. they brainwash them early to make them easy to control when they become adult. i hate this kind of stuff.
[:(] I agree!!!  The entire world has gone completely mad and I am so very tired of it!!!  God Bless to all



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Mout Ahmar -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (3/29/2007 4:03:56 AM)

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ORIGINAL: akrawi1

we live for love


love will win in the end. with no love there is no life. [sm=smiley27.gif]



azinorum -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (4/9/2007 1:54:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mout Ahmar

quote:

ORIGINAL: akrawi1

we live for love


love will win in the end. with no love there is no life. [sm=smiley27.gif]


Guys.....get a room.



Mout Ahmar -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (4/12/2007 8:04:17 AM)

hahahaha [sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif]



sadiq2006 -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (4/12/2007 10:30:16 AM)

is something wrong ?



Mout Ahmar -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (5/5/2007 12:24:11 PM)

no mr sadiq nothing wrong. this is a american joke. it mean 2 ppl are show 2 much imotion in public so they must take a room. u understand?



azinorum -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (5/5/2007 2:45:39 PM)

It is with deep regret and sadness ............ I suspect sadiq2006 has retired from this forum. [sm=smiley19.gif]



YellowSunshine -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (5/5/2007 3:51:08 PM)

Listening to Jason Upton, Prophetic Worship Songs... Talk about the Spirit of God... I think u fellow men/women/Iraq bro's. could relate...
God wants LOVE for our children
simple
am crying for this world!
MIRACLES< let them flow..................
Eternal .............
yes seperation of church/state, azinorum, HOWEVER, there is a power that we (some)do not see... or realize.. however, often what we think is reality is NOT!!!!!!!
Spiritual warefare is strong in this day/age.
X to take off our blinders, pray and SEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
does anyone REALLY hear?  my daughter/son do. Praise God! or if u prefer Allah! (sp?)
in the silence, u r speaking, in the quiet i can feel the fire and it's burning  burning deeply..............
u desire to be
in me
can u hear me, my soul is screaming out!  broken
kingdoms
heart to fear u
fear your holy name
spirit in TRUTH
God is REACHING out! 
some may HEAR his "voice" spirit.
silence is speaking.   feel the fire, burning, deeply, u desire, to be silent. open your eyes, ears .
My Beloved by Jason Upton

Miracles, we r asking for miracles, healing waters.
ancient ruins, heart of God, Miracles
places you don't even know
deep into places you don't even know
miracles Flow...................................................................
here he is, the spirit of God, heal the wounded soul, there/here he is! Behold
It is so!  Greater is he than he who is in the world...
   LET IT FLOW NOW!!!!!!!!!!! MIRACLES........
RAISE YOUR HAND TO HEAVEN RIGHT NOW, ASK FOR MIRACLES.
   let it flow now            




YellowSunshine -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (5/5/2007 4:08:59 PM)

This is not right.... why? no x , concentration not here on my end today...
I hope (tho. I don't know much about him) that he perhaps will reconsider.  
I do not think anyone met any thing to upset him.
yellow sunshine, triorose, mother theresa
xxxxxxxxxxxoooooooooooo
guess i am "out of the closet", joke here



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Is this what we want for our children? (5/9/2007 1:54:45 PM)

Lady, no offense but you need help! LSD anyone? [&:]



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