do not forget what i said before what i posted that 40% of the iraqis left their homaland and 8 million are in the path of death and sickness and starvation.
so you think the Humanitarian Aid can help the iraqis no i do not think so because it is a very difficult task and risking lives you have to understand that.
Dudes, I'm not sure if I appreciate these celebrity do gooders making the most of others misery by having photo ops and upgrading their "I really do care Status". I realize their involvement draws attention to these types of crisis but I don't fully trust their motives. What do you think?
Angelina Jolie Meets Refugees, Troops in Iraq Surprise Visit to Iraq and Syria in Her Role as UNHCR Goodwill Ambassador
Here is the UNHCR's account of Angelina's time in Iraq and Syria:
DAMASCUS, Syria, August 28 (UNHCR) – UNHCR Goodwill Ambassador Angelina Jolie has visited Iraq and Syria to see first-hand the plight of hundreds of thousands of families uprooted by the conflict in Iraq. The UN refugee agency estimates more than 4. 2 million Iraqis have left their homes – 2 million to neighbouring states and another 2.2 million displaced inside Iraq.
Yesterday in Damascus, Jolie visited a UNHCR registration centre and spent hours talking to Iraqi refugees in their homes. Today, she crossed into Iraq to visit 1,200 refugees trapped in a makeshift camp at the border, unable to flee Iraq, and later watched scores of Iraqis crossing into Syria at a border checkpoint. As a UNHCR Goodwill Ambassador, Jolie said she would leave politics to others while focusing on the region's huge humanitarian needs.
"I have come to Syria and Iraq to help draw attention to this humanitarian crisis and to urge governments to increase their support for UNHCR and its partners," Jolie said. "My sole purpose in both countries is to highlight the humanitarian plight of those uprooted by the war in Iraq."
After talking with some of the stranded refugees at Iraq's Al Waleed camp on Tuesday, Jolie said: "it is absolutely essential that the ongoing debate about Iraq's future includes plans for addressing the enormous humanitarian consequences these people face."
While in Iraq, she separated from UNHCR to visit privately with US troops and other Multi-National Forces based in the area. Jolie arrived in Syria on Monday. In Damascus, she met some of the thousands of Iraqi refugees registering with UNHCR, nearly one-quarter of whom are victims of violence and torture. Tens of thousands are without jobs, and many young people are in danger of losing out on an education and a future. She recognized Syria for its open borders and generosity to Iraqis. In late July, UNHCR and the UN Children's Fund (UNICEF) launched a joint US$129 million education appeal aimed at getting 155,000 young Iraqi refugees throughout the Middle East back into school. The United States announced Tuesday that it will contribute US$30 million to the appeal.
To counteract the title of this thread, it now seems the trend is reversing and people are actually returning home for a change. 46,000 is a big number and I hope with all my heart that this is because the situation on the ground has improved rather than because these Iraqis have now run out of money. InshaAllah Khair.
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The number of Iraqis returning to their country after fleeing abroad is growing, with more than 46,000 people coming home last month, an Iraqi government spokesman said Wednesday.
Brig. Gen. Qassim al-Moussawi, the Iraqi spokesman for a U.S.-Iraqi military push to pacify Baghdad, said border crossings recorded 46,030 people returning to Iraq in October alone. He attributed the large number to the "improving security situation."
"The level of terrorist operations has dropped in most of the capital's neighborhoods, due to the good performance of the armed forces," al-Moussawi told reporters in the heavily-guarded Green Zone.
But the rise also came as Iraq's neighbors, particularly Syria and Jordan, have tightened their borders to Iraqis fleeing the turmoil in their own country. Syria is home to at least 1.2 million Iraqi refugees, and Jordan has about 750,000.
Many of those Iraqis are living in limbo, unable to work and running out of whatever money they were able to bring out of Iraq.
the last time i read from these news is that 2.3 million iraqis are leaving iraq and they are outside more on the way, i think they are planning to make iraq empty from its people like when the europeans invaded north of america before 300 years ago and to steal free from it, i think they are doing the samething in iraq so they can steal anything easy and smooth.
The sorry saga continues for the majority of Iraqis living as refugees or driven from home by the violence.
Iraq's displaced people nightmare By Magdi Abdelhadi BBC Arab affairs analyst
The huge displacement of people inside Iraq appears to be contributing to the further fragmentation of the country.
The scale of the overall displacement is unprecedented in the modern history of the Middle East. There are now an estimated four million Iraqis who have been forced to flee their homes, and the numbers continue to rise, according to the UN refugee agency. Neighbouring Jordan and Syria, which have borne the brunt of the problem after receiving some two million refugees over the past few years, have now restricted access because they can no longer cope with the influx. The plight of those who have fled their homes but have not been able to leave the country is dire, says the UN refugee agency. The head of the Iraq Support Unit, Andrew Harper, told the BBC that an increasing number of provinces were turning the refugees away because they lacked resources to look after them. He said with so many people in desperate need of shelter and food, Iraq was like a pressure-cooker.
Beyond Baghdad's control Mr Harper said the UN agency had raised the issue with the central government in Baghdad, but was told that the local authorities had been urged to shelter the fleeing Iraqis. This means that local governments are in effect ignoring directives from Baghdad. Steve Simon of the US Council on Foreign Relations told the BBC: "Local authorities are taking ever greater unilateral prerogative in areas that they control because the central state is ineffective, it lacks capacity."
Mr Simon said the local governments were facing hard choices.
"They are not going to make their local constituencies unhappy by letting all these displaced persons from other areas in Iraq in to split a pie that is already pretty meagre," he said. The refugee problem is also likely to make national reconciliation even more difficult to achieve.
'Recruiting-grounds' Ghaith Abdul Ahad, an Iraqi journalist, says the areas where displaced Iraqis live have become fertile recruiting-grounds for militants. "The insurgents in west Baghdad tell me that the hardest fighters are the Sunnis who have been kicked out of their homes by the Shia," Mr Abdul Ahad told the BBC. There is a real fear that the temporary ramshackle refugee camps that today dot the Iraqi landscape are festering wounds that may take years to heal.
More ominously, they are a breeding ground for violence as well as social and political turmoil. Outside Iraq, the long-term effect of the exodus is difficult to foresee. Some analysts have drawn comparisons with the plight of the Palestinians, who were forced to flee after the creation of the state of Israel in 1948. And if that analogy is anything to go by, then the Iraqi refugee crisis could become a destabilising factor for the entire region for years to come. No one can predict the exact impact on the precarious demographic balance in neighbouring Syria and Jordan, which have received the highest numbers of Iraqi refugees. These societies may continue to cope with the problem, as long as there is the prospect that the refugees will one day be able to go back. But if years go by without that happening, the threat of instability may haunt the region for the foreseeable future.
Please let this trend be a sign that the security is really improving rather than just because Iraqis have run out of money because of lack of income. Think positive!
Iraqis return home 'in thousands'
An estimated 1,000 people a day are returning across Iraq's borders having previously moving abroad to escape the violence, Iraqi authorities say.
Most of the returnees are coming from Syria - and very few from Jordan, where better-off refugees tended to go. An improving security situation - but also the lack of job opportunities for Iraqis in Syria - may account for the move, correspondents say. However, at least five people died in a bombing in Ramadi on Wednesday. A suicide bomber slammed a vehicle into a courthouse compound, police said. The attack came as a sudden return to violence in a region which has become markedly more peaceful since Sunni tribesmen joined forces with the US military to tackle al-Qaeda militants last year.
Violence falls Over 4.4m Iraqis are thought to have been displaced by violence since the US-led invasion of 2003 - but a growing trickle of those who fled the country are now coming back. Iraq's ministry of migration told the BBC about 1,000 people were returning every day. The UN's refugee agency, the UNHCR, estimates about 45,000 Iraqis returned from Syria in October - the first month of the school year. One factor in their return is likely to be a sharp and sustained drop in all kinds of violence, particularly in parts of the capital Baghdad, following a US-Iraqi military "surge". But the stream of returnees from Syria is not being matched by return traffic from Jordan, where there may be as many as a million Iraqi refugees. That is probably because those in Syria are poorer, so their savings have run out more quickly, says the BBC's Jim Muir in Baghdad.
Incentives Syrian authorities, who have seen the country's population swollen by up to 10% by the flood of Iraqi refugees, have begun imposing visa requirements. Iraqi authorities, for their part, have been providing incentives for refugees to return, such as free bus rides from Syria. They have also tried to encourage those Iraqis displaced inside the country - who constitute about half the total - to return to their homes by offering families grants of $800 to do so. So far 4,700 families have taken up the offer with another 8,500 registered for them. But not all the returnees are confident the security improvement is permanent. Watching decorators paint the home he has returned to in east Baghdad from Syria, retired policeman Abu Naseem told Reuters news agency: "After all this effort to fix the house I hope there will be no more fighting. "But I think the violence will be back again."
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LOB dude, yes we need to be positive, hard to do, however, is better than looking over shoulder for the next disaster. i think in this world with so much going on, communication levels at all x high, we get used to one disaster after another and are becoming somewhat programmed for "bad news" as opposed to good.
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if this thing continues in iraq then it will be empty and major didsastor and the mighty god allah will punish the world for it, and like what saddam hussain said :(i will will make iraq a land without people if i will die), and he was telling the truth.
The reverse is now happening. Iraqis are returning to thier country according to various reports from todays press. Heres one for your review:
Iraqi refugees begin journey home Hundreds of Iraqi refugees have left temporary shelter in Syria to return to their homes in Iraq. About 800 people are travelling in a convoy of buses provided by the Iraqi government following two months of security improvements in Iraq. But there are also reports that life has become increasingly hard for some of the 1.5 million refugees in Syria. The Iraqi government hopes that if the convoy is successful, many more people will be encouraged to return to Iraq. The convoy was seen off by a group of men singing and waving the Iraqi flag. Those on board join the steady stream of refugees who have crossed the border back into Iraq in recent months.
Iraq's ambassador to Syria, Hassan Abdul Aziz, said people feel they can return because the security situation has improved. "People are saying our situation is really getting better than before," he said. "No bombs, no people killing each other. "That's why people decided to go back to Iraq, otherwise nobody will go back."
Money worries
However, the United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR) said most of the refugees it spoke to are returning because they have run out of money or have been unable to renew their visas. The organisation said that although it will help anyone wishing to return to Iraq, it is too early for large-scale repatriation to take place. Syria has struggled to cope with the 1.5 million Iraqis who have sought refuge there and it has recently tightened visa rules for refugees.
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so you think the Humanitarian Aid can help the iraqis no i do not think so because it is a very difficult task and risking lives you have to understand that.
i don't know it is risky, sadiq my friend these are your posts close together i might add
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do you been risking lives of the ones they help?
pls elaborate, or is it elaberate? or elobaratted, help harry with my speeling plese?
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if this thing continues in iraq then it will be empty and major didsastor and the mighty god allah will punish the world for it, and like what saddam hussain said :(i will will make iraq a land without people if i will die), and he was telling the truth.
sadiq, surely you did not support THAT man? was he or was he not very evil and did he or did he not do evil/horrible things to the iraqi people and others? the issue of weapons of mass destruction aside?????
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my dear lob, i am just simply trying to make some sense of these posts, perhaps i have a brain block going on or mental pause. just looking for clarification
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it is not about the issue of weapons of mass destruction, it is about invading iraq destroying it and steal the oil, and the israels wants to take revenge from iraq because of the past, and becoming america the number 1 of rulling the world with it's naive and stupid way of politics, that is the issue.
"Dudes, I'm not sure if I appreciate these celebrity do gooders making the most of others misery by having photo ops and upgrading their "I really do care Status". I realize their involvement draws attention to these types of crisis but I don't fully trust their motives. What do you think?" LOB's quote above
Lob, I do believe SOME really do care, others are just attempting to blow their own horn for recognition or their own selfish interests. I recall sometime back reading about Denzel Washington. During the clean up after Hurricane Katrina many actors/actresses were photographed assisting, letting the press know how much $ they had contributed and so on. Denzel had donated a ton of time, effort and $ of which he kept private. There was not a big press release surrounding him and his efforts.
There is a verse in the Bible about not letting your left hand know what your right is doing when it comes to giving/something like that. Basically it means that when you give you should do so in secret because God knows and THAT is what is important.
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Thank you Mr. Blair and then Mr. Brown for securing Basra before handing it over to the Militia thugs. There is really no bloody point in criticizing Al Qaida and other foreign terrorists if they don't identify that the main problem lies with these illegal home grown terrorists mascarading as religious Militias. In any case here's an organization that is trying to help.
“My beautiful city of Basra is becoming a place of misery and fear for many women, children, and its diverse communities, traditionally, Basra has enjoyed a high degree of tolerance and secularism.” A quote from Ahmed Khudayir, one of Iraqi Association users in London.
Basra is a pluralistic, and socially diverse city. It is home to sizeable communities of Shia, Sunnis, Kurdish, Christians, mainly Chaldaean, Assyrian and Mandaeans. The impact of these minorities can be felt in several quarters of Basra such as ‘Ashthar and Suq al-Shaykh. As a port city, Basra has attracted a wide variety of merchants, which further enriched its diversity.
“But Basra’s vibrant pluralism is in danger to be destroyed forever, and the prevailing mood is of gloom and fear. Extremists and criminal gangs are operating freely in the city, to establish their power through intimidation, beatings and summary executions of anyone resisting their efforts to install their rule. Often they kill women, leave a piece of paper to justify their hideous crimes. Or in some cases, female students had been shot in the legs for not wearing proper dresses." Said Jabber Hasan, Director of Iraqi Association.
Notes to editors: 1. Iraqi Association assists people to integrate in the United Kingdom. 2. Every year Iraqi Association deals with more than 10,000 cases. 3. We operate IraqChild appeal, helping children in Iraq, those who have been affected by war and violence. You can donate online using our secure Website www.iraqiassociation.org
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“But Basra’s vibrant pluralism is in danger to be destroyed forever, and the prevailing mood is of gloom and fear. Extremists and criminal gangs are operating freely in the city, to establish their power through intimidation, beatings and summary executions of anyone resisting their efforts to install their rule. Often they kill women, leave a piece of paper to justify their hideous crimes. Or in some cases, female students had been shot in the legs for not wearing proper dresses." Said Jabber Hasan, Director of Iraqi Association
LOB above
Something is Extremely Wrong with some so called "people" in this world, very very wrong.
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