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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/4/2007 3:46:40 PM   
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OK, I just thought you might want to share something other than the kurdish stuff. Don't worry about it.

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/4/2007 4:33:35 PM   
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Yes, its possible. We all know how much Sadiq2006 likes the ladies!!

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/4/2007 8:13:31 PM   
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why is it bad to like ladies or what ?

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/4/2007 10:26:31 PM   
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why is it bad to like ladies or what ?


Sadiq2006: We all like the ladies.

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/5/2007 6:01:15 AM   
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i thought you meant something else.

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/5/2007 7:06:42 AM   
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i thought you meant something else.


What did you think I meant?

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/6/2007 3:28:30 PM   
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i thought you meant that i am wasting my life with ladies and making fun of me.

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/6/2007 3:33:18 PM   
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Being with ladies is one of lifes great pleasures and certainly not a waste of time.

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/7/2007 2:23:30 PM   
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yes you are right 100% but not always, and the iraqis need this kind of life again that is what wish for them and god bless you.

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/7/2007 2:24:19 PM   
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هل اعدام صدام في يوم عيد المسلمين السنة هو خطة فارسية لتمزيق العراق

ان اغلب الاعمال الدموية في العراق جاءت باسباب طرح الفدراليات في الشمال والجنوب وما تبعها من استغلال حزب البعث والقاعدة لهذه الاطروحات  للاعلان عن ان الصفويون في ايران يريدون جر الجنوب العراقي وضمه الى الدولة الفارسية لكونه يحتوي على اكبر ثروة نفطية في هذه المنطقة وقد تسببت طروحات الفدراليات الى توتر بين الاحزاب السنية والشيعية نتج عنه استغلال هذه الاحزاب للطبقات الاقل ثقافة ووعي لشن الحرب الطائفية في العراق والتي استغلت التصادمات والتفجيرات واهلكت الالاف من ابناء شعبنا العزيز من كلا الطرفين لغرض الفوز السياسي الطائفي والمصلحي القذر كما ان  اطروحة الفدراليات البغيضة تسببت ايضا باعلان المتطرفون بانشاء امارة اسلامية في بعض مناطق البلاد وبعد رفض الشعب العراقي لاطروحة فدرالية الجنوب قام الصفويون بالايعاز الى صنيعتهم الحالية بعض ممثلي الحكومة باعدام صدام يوم عيد السنة لتبدا حرب بين الطوائف ينتج عنها تشتيت الوحدة الوطنية المقدسة والحاق الجزء الجنوبي من العراق لايران على اسس طائفية نتنة فلا بد للمواطن العراقي ان يعي هذه الادوار القذرة التي يراد بها النيل من وحدة وطننا وشعبنا العظيم والله اكبر والنصر للعراق على اعدائه المتطرفين والتخريبين والصفويين والسلام  

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/7/2007 2:47:46 PM   
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well i am that saddam hussain died he is living in hell right now.

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/7/2007 4:13:47 PM   
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azinorum
 
yes you are right 100% but not always, and the iraqis need this kind of life again that is what wish for them and god bless you.


It has been far too long since the last time you could have a cold Farida beer and eat Mezguf on Abu Nawass. Even Saddam banned alcohol in public places in 1993 (does anyone remember why?). This meant that most if not all the old nightclubs closed down and everyone started to have parties in their homes rather than go out. As for the ladies, we forgot what they looked like because it was rare to see pretty single women in restaurants from the 90's onwards. In the late 1990's some restaurants in Arasat Street started serving alcohol to regulars in white coffee mugs but this was a man only affair. No decent woman would be seen drinking in a restaurant. For a brief period after the war alcohol was served openly but this lasted only 12 months before the Militias started threatening restaurant owners unless they closed down.

The reason I'm telling you this is to illustrate just how much Iraqis need to have a good time. In my lifetime we've been through this:

1979-1988 Iran war.
1991-2003 Gulf War & UN Sanctions.
2003-2007 US occupation and sectarian violence.

It would be nice to go to a restaurant and order a beer without getting my head handed to me on a plate. It's been so long I'm starting to forget what it was like to be able to do simple things like this in Baghdad. Insha Allah the good times will come soon. 

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/7/2007 4:16:22 PM   
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Mr sadiq2006
I am mosluman and he also ,so i shall ask my god to keeb him in haven because he did some thing good for iraqis and dead in aid aladha.

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/8/2007 10:44:15 AM   
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Mr sadiq2006
I am mosluman and he also ,so i shall ask my god to keeb him in haven because he did some thing good for iraqis and dead in aid aladha.


What good was he doing for Iraqis? For over ten years, while the Iraqi people were starving to death, he was building tens of palaces with the money from “oil for food program” instead of spending it to feed the people.

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/8/2007 11:22:43 AM   
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What good was he doing for Iraqis? For over ten years, while the Iraqi people were starving to death, he was building tens of palaces with the money from “oil for food program” instead of spending it to feed the people.


Saddam stopped thinking about the Iraqi people a very long time ago if indeed he ever really did in the first place. But still the hanging was a disgrace and made the current government look just as sinister as the baathists. It was a really dumb move and Westerners can't be blamed for viewing it as the Shia's lust for blood. I don't think any civilized country should put a man to death in such a way and air it on TV for everyone to see (and hear). After all we come from a country that gave birth to civilization right? or do we only use that tagline when it suites us?. Photos and witnesses would have been enough proof. They should have also delayed the execution till after Eid for obvious reasons. Allowing an adversary to die respectfully would have done a lot more for this governments image at home and abroad. Its time we started acting like the country that gave the world civilization rather than just talking about it. Unfortunately we failed again. Stupidity is difficult to cure.

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/8/2007 12:20:33 PM   
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What good was he doing for Iraqis? For over ten years, while the Iraqi people were starving to death, he was building tens of palaces with the money from “oil for food program” instead of spending it to feed the people.

Mr Harry
we are mosluman so :                
اذكروا محاسن موتاكم                      
At least to remamber:
-Nationalization of pertol
-Stop the iranien to control our country
-Help ahmed hassan el baker in alphabetization of iraq
-Help the poor arab countries by give them petrol with low price
-Nationalize the security in side iraq
-He has no ideas of difference between the iraq people whom not in opposit side
-........................ETC
I do n't said that he is ideal and not dectator.................etc

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/8/2007 2:30:08 PM   
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saddam was nver a muslim do not fool youself i do not a person tells his people to build 1600 statues and tell to obey him a god of creation and never go to pray in the mosque in the fridays days and killing everyone how opposes him for his stupid no he was never a muslim. 

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/8/2007 3:21:28 PM   
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there is a great saying omar bin al khattab (god bless him such a great man) he said
 




Caliph Umar al Khattab (Allah is pleased with him!) after the conquest of Jerusalem by the Muslims in 637 CE addressing his soldiers said:



 

O Arabs! You were a despised people in the world. It is Islam that has given you dignity, prestige and unity. Remember whenever you would think of Acquiring honor in the name of any other ideology, Allah will bring disgrace and shame on you. “

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/8/2007 4:36:51 PM   
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yes mr sadiq2006 i agree with you

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/9/2007 1:42:56 PM   
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azinorum:
 
My reply was about what Saddam has done for the Iraqi people.
The hanging and the execution issue is a horse of a different color. there are so much politics involved in it, that I refuse to go there.

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/9/2007 1:49:34 PM   
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azinorum:
 
My reply was about what Saddam has done for the Iraqi people.
The hanging and the execution issue is a horse of a different color. there are so much politics involved in it, that I refuse to go there.


But Harry...where else are you going to discuss such issues if not in an Iraqi political forum? Of course theres a lot of politics behind the way the handeled the execution, it was always going to be controversial. But aren't the controversial issues the ones that make for the best debates?

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/9/2007 2:07:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: al ani
we are mosluman so :                
اذكروا محاسن موتاكم  

 
quote:

ORIGINAL: al ani

At least to remamber:
-Nationalization of pertol

He did not nationalize the Iraqi oil. It was done duringعبد السلام عارف
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ORIGINAL: al ani
-Stop the iranien to control our country

If you are referring to the Iraq Iran war, for your information, there were no winners in that war, both sides lost (as in all wars).
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ORIGINAL: al ani
-Help ahmed hassan el baker in alphabetization of iraq

What do you mean by “alphabetization”? How did he help? What good did that do for the Iraqi people?
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-Help the poor arab countries by give them petrol with low price

We are talking about the Iraqi people not the poor Arab countries. Besides, he was suppose to feed the people in his country, before sending money to those who are now killing Iraqis, such as Egyptians, Syrians, Afghanis, etc…
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-Nationalize the security in side iraq

He did not national the security inside Iraq, he forced Ba’thism throughout the ranks of the military and the police force, which lead the non Ba’thists to either get killed, tortured, or left the force.
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-He has no ideas of difference between the iraq people whom not in opposit side

If I understand your last point correctly, I would say you are right, he did not discriminate, he killed everyone who refused to become a Ba’thist regardless of religion, ethnicity, or otherwise.

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/9/2007 2:11:45 PM   
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I am sorry you are not getting my point, I did not criticize, nor did I agree the way he was executed. I was only talking about the good deeds that al ani claims that Saddam did for the Iraqi people.
 Yes this is the place to discuss the issue of execution, but I was not talking about that.

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RE: الفدراليات المتهورة - 1/9/2007 2:16:36 PM   
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WE CAN NOT TELL THAT OR THIS MAN WAS NOT MOSLEM BECAUSE EACH ONE ACCEPTED / LA ILAH ILLA ALLAH  MOHAMED RASOUL ALLAH
AND PREY,DO RAMADAN,GIVE AZAKAT, AND MADE EL HEJ IN MEKKA HE IS A MOSLEM ,but a lot of people behave very bad and shot others but cosider them self MOUSLIM,even if he did all what i mentions. here we can say there is a difference between real moslem and flase moslem.(sorry because i write peoplic language with sadiq).

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