Sadiq2006, sorry if I offended you by my post and I don't think you are joking. And I also want to say that I don't have a problem aganist Kurds because I have kurdish friends and some of them are really nice, and they are Muslims so I can't hate them, but I just dislike the ones that want Iraq to be divided, and that can be anyone not just kurds.
الاخوان المشاركين في هذا الموضوع كنت اتمنى لو انكم اعطيتم ارائكم في موضوع الفدراليات التي تسرع بها القائمين على الحكم الان بالرغم من حاجتنا الماسة الى الامن والمركزية في بداية اعادة بناء وهيكلة العراق الحبيب قبل النظر الى المصالح الضيقة وحب الامتلاك بارضه الطاهرة التي ترفض كل اناني وكل جشع لا تهمه الا الاطماع الحقيرة التي لن تخلد مع البشر بل الخلود للعمل الصالح ونكران الذات والتضحية والتفاني من اجل الاخرين ورفع اسم الوطن عاليا بابناءه البررة وليس الابناء القتلة والطامعين والسلام
< Message edited by al ani -- 12/20/2006 12:53:51 PM >
السلام عليكم بمناسبة عقدد منظمة بدر اجتماعها حول الفدراليات يشرف العراقيين وخاصة نحن الشيعة الى الاستماع الى ثلة من الجنود الذينن تدربو على الحدود الايرانية العراقية على كيفية حمل السلاح والاغتيالات الطائفية والمصلحية في الجنوب وفي بغداد وبعقوبة للاستماع الى حملة البنادق ليدرسونا الفدراليات ويخرجو بنتيجة مهمة جدا بان الفدراليات تعطيهم المناصب وكثير من المال ليعيشو احرار كالاكراد في الشمال ويتركوا باقي العراق للقاعدة والصداميين ينتحرون فيه الله اكبر والعزة لله ورسوله وال البيت الاخيار الطاهرين هل تضحكون على انفسكم يا شرذمة العسكر واي فكر تمتازوا به لكي تقرروا نيابة عن العراقيين والله لا فيدرالية ولا هم يحزنون حتى يتم برمجة خروج الامريكان من الوطن والا سوف لا نرجع الى الحكومة ولا برلمان وستسقط حكومتكم المتهرئة وتتبدل التحالفات
as an american citizen living in the uae god bless this country, i understand little what you wrote in your topic hence also if you iraq to be back alright and happy in their the kurds first must admit their mistakes in the past before 200 years ago at the days of the ottoman empier and what they bad bad things to the native people of upper north mesopotamia and tell to the world the truth of what they did bad bad things to innocent people these in the north of mesopotamia , and give these rights to the original people of mesopotamia that not and never will be for the kurds , THEN IRAQ (MESOPOTAMIA) WILL BE BACK GOOD AND LIKE A PARADISE COUNTRY ALSO THE OTHERS PARTS OF MESOPOTAMIA THAT IN SYRIA AND IN TURKEY THOSE RIVERS FURAT AND DIJLA TO GIVE THEM BACK TO THE IRAQIS THEN THE GREAT MESOPOTAMIA WILL ONE UNITED AGAIN , LIKE THEY WERE BEFORE 8000 YEARS AGO GOD BLESS THE IRAQIS.
Mr sadiq 2006 I agree with you the kurd must appologize about some faults in the past with mesopotamia peoples, but what you say to the some OF the peoples from the south of the mesopotamia (Najaf,Diowania, Naciria, et Basrah like to seperate this regions from the all of iraq to take the petrole alone and to let the desart part in the middle and west iraq wich hase no petrole live as a peoples caring the sheeps in this desert ?
< Message edited by al ani -- 12/26/2006 4:12:46 PM >
do you think abdull aziz al hakim that pupput will devlop the south if he wants it to divided it no he will never do that very very simply i will tell, simply thr psersians before 1400 years ago they always hate the arabs and claiming that the arabs invade at the time of omer bin al khatab (god bless him that grea great man of islam) acusing him and the arab muslims that they invaded their land and their people and forced by swords to convert to islam and something like that and destroying the persian empire how that kisra that crazy persain leader the muslims destroyed him at that time and the mesopotamians suffuer a lot because of him hence the mesopotamians helped omer bin al khatab by that great muslim saad bin aby al waqas who defeated that crazy kisra persian king with the help ofcourse the mesopotamians, and omar bin al khatan was always depending on the mesopotamians to help him, from that time until now the persians will try to destroy iraq and bring the glory of the persian empire by any cost by any cost any cost that is the why that crazy puppet abdull aziz al hakim wants to divide south of iraq to bring the persians to south of iraq and kill the iraqis because they are simply arabs and change it into persian land like they in AHWAZ REGION THAT IT WAS OPRIGINALLY MESOPOTAMIAN TERETORRY ANF CULTURE, AND SIMPLY CLAIMING IT AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY PERSIAN.
THIS IS THE SAME THE KURDS THEY DID THAT BEFORE 200 YEARS AGO AT THE DAYS OF THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE BECAUSE THE KURDS HAVE AN PERSIAN CULTURE AND GOD BLESS YOU.
Dear MR Sadiq2006 Great thanks to you about the informations wich reflect that you read the history very will and i hope that all americans know these troughs to help the real mesopotamia peoples to take their rights,good bless you.
i do not think the americans will care to much because 95% of them they only care about themselves and they think all the world is america, so do not put yours hopes to high about the americans believe on this one.
dear mr sadiq yes mr sadiq you are right but the american now in iraq and have a beg desition also they met daly the iraniens with guns in side iraq kill the iraqis,like alsader group and bader group, god bless you.
MR Sadiq2006 The kurd now make a special relationship with al hakim to subdivide our country into three parts: the north including kurkok to the kurd, the region between shat el Arb and babel to the chiat and the rest stays for the sunna. That means, there are three decentralised goverments, in fact, iraq (mesopotamia) is in danger to be subdivided into three countries, it is a bad thing for such land; and a durable war is going to occurs, honest iraqis people refuse such case and this is our topic here also it is considered the real reason for such terrible .
mesopotamia was divided before for the first time and now they want to divide mesopotamia the second time and these crazy kurds they never had a land or a kurdish village this was all fake history they a black history from the days of the ottoman empire before 200 years ago.
dear mr sadiq2006 Even if i respect our brothers Kurd in iraq but i don't like the behaviar of the heads of kurdish politiciens except the islamic party which has a strong brothership with the other iraqi parties,because they like to seperate them self from the conflict between shait and sunni parties, and in harry to make the federations,while iraq stell struggle against the terrorisme.
the terrorisme you are talking about was there at the days of saddam hussain and america helped him, hence of you read the history of the kurds they many many bad against the iraqis with the help of course from the ottomans empire and they kicked out and mascraded the mesopotamins in the upper north or forced hem to become kurds that the kurds are still faking the history so everybody in the world would believe, ofcourse the good educated people will know that they faking the history and lying and helping also the israel and america.
yes mr sadiq2006 THIS IS THE BLACK POINT OF THE KURD, THEY HELP ISRAIL AND AMIRICA againist iraq and arab BECAUSE THEY ARE WEEK PEOPLES.and think that Amirica will help them ................................
all the uppor of mesopotamia was for iraq only for iraq it was never for syria or it was never was for turkey the british and french they divided from year 1940's and divided mesopotamia into three parts that is why iraq became weak and hence the kurds from 200years they are still continuing to fake the history from that time until now to fool the world.
Mr sadiq2006 after the scend war all the countries in the middle east have their borders, so syria and turky borders was fixed even if the alforat and tigures are pass through syria and turky, now iraq can not ask these areas in the international laws, we need only the area of our country, good bless you.
I would like to ask Sadiq2006 why he continues to post messages that are exclusively Anti Kurdish?
I don't mean I need an explanation as to why you hate them because I think the regular members of this forum know that already. What I mean is theres a lot more going on in other parts of Iraq so why are you exclusively concentrating on the Kurds?
what you are you are right 1- reclaim the iraq land 2- then after years when iraq becomes powerful they will the land that is in syria and turkey will come for iraq because simply the borders around the world is all fake and big lies that is what makes the counteries always fight and have wars.
yes there will be more from the kurds in the future you just wait and see hence they want to claim the nineveh land that is near musal for them as kurdistan GOD these people are really crazy and liers in history they do not have any civilization.
you know what you are really naive you still do not undersstand do you. what is wrong with you do you still believe in these kurds and there lies and faking the history?.