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baghdadi -> People are sick (10/17/2006 3:17:49 AM)

While the Kurdish leadership is dreaming of Kirkurk and Hakim and the Dawa party are dreaming they will own Basra, these losers hae failed to provide anything useful to the Iraqi public.  They hide behind the Americans or Iranians just as they did in prior years.  Let me share with you a experience i hope no of you ever see, yesturday driving in a part of Baghdad the used to be beatiful a Madhi gangster killed an innocent man then his commrad walk out of his car and in to the middle of this street where the dead Iraqi man lies and spit of his face!  The man was just murdered! I do not beleive the news anymore the people who invaded Iraq planned one thing TO DESTROY IT, all the good people left the country the rest are helpless and hope they do not get killed, while Hakim and Massod are fighting over the flag, and many other silly topics.  They talk abouit de-bathifaiction how about all these people in control get de-HELL OUT OF IRAQ!



Jaafer -> RE: People are sick (10/25/2006 6:01:00 AM)

 
The BBC TV has shown what is going on in ALYarmouk Hospital in Baghdad, Doctors where describing the situation before and after the invasion. The doctor who has made the documentary has to hide his identity fearing being killed. While filming the head of security of the hospital got killed. Scours of Iraqis got injured and killed on daily bases. People were cursing the occupiers and their supporters including AlMalike and the Beshmaraga. One way or another they are blaming AlMahde army and even the resistance for the tragic situation in Iraq. An injured women called for the restoration of President Saddam Hussien, all agreed Iraqis agreed the situation was better under him than now. A child get fluid sucked from his lungs without anaesthetic, injections was placed in his belly to check for shrapnel, he was screaming  ولك عمو.  May Allah take our revenge from all of you. The programme is called THIS WORLD date 24/10/06
 
http://search.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/search/results.pl?tab=all&go=homepage&q=this+world&scope=all
 
 
Today 25/10/06 on BBC Radio 4, 8.00-9.00AM after live reporting from AlBassrah and despite the twists of the Iraqi translator where for example Bassrawe people were saying we do not like the arrogant occupiers, the translator adds the world May be arrogant  and may be occupiers. He goes to accuse the police of being responsible for roping his house and injuring his wife. Then he accuse them of attacking a church in AlBassra. Then the representative of the Anglican’s Church bleeds for not attacking AlShia’ because they have suffered under Saddam. He asks the occupiers to take care of them and the religious leaders who are leading the insurgency (as he put it) even in Jordon. WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE BRITISH MEANS WHEN THEY TALK OF TAKING CARE OF SOMEBODY. If this bad, listen to the other british official animal where he again claims the situation is better now despite the fact that 2/3 of people in Basrah are unemployed and there is no difference in people’s life where the British are occupying. The reporter questioned the pillaging of Iraqis money, the british official, claimed the south was destroyed by Saddam!
 
 I do not know from where the british got the sympathy for the Iraqi people? It seems they have forgot the sanctions, wars and the bombings. The dirt are still crying for their losses in the war with Germany although they have started it. Their killing, death and destruction is alright and it is heavenly work. This is how criminals they are. The Anglican Bishop was praising AlMalike for allowing him to have meetings in his office. What sort of puppets those rats are? AlMalki and Salah are begging the occupiers to remain in Iraq, this is how popular they are.
 
The resistance on its part has to be extremely careful in what they are doing. The film shows that Iraqis are dying for nothing; this is innocent civilians are dying where no occupiers or their dogs around. Even if these crimes are attributed to the occupiers and their dirty tricks in trying to split the one Iraqi people, nobody can blame the explosion in the mini bus during the last day of Ramadan on the occupiers.  The Resistance must purify itself from those idiots and the criminals who take advantage of them.  Let them go and explode themselves in their countries and not ours. We have not seen any explosion even in the sources of international  crimes Britian, America and where ever the jews are occupying, so why it is OK in Iraq? Who is going to benefit out of depriving the Resistance from its Oxygen?  The british “consulate” in AlBasrah has never left the occupied presidential palace there. They are getting under daily attack. Even the bbc reporter has to be flown at night so the question again, Who is benefiting out of depriving the Resistance from the Iraqi people?



azinorum -> RE: People are sick (10/26/2006 4:46:14 AM)

baghdadi
God help you for having to witness such a heinous and cowardly crime. People are so afraid of these small time gagsters in Baghdad that I’m sure no one lifted a finger to help. Mahdi Army? Where were they when Saddam was in power? They **** about being oppressed during his rule but didn’t do anything about it. They are nothing more than cowards with no education, religion or basic ethics so what is the solution to this problem. I hate to say it but Saddam’s way was best. Put them all in a big hole and shoot them. Better still hang them on mass outside their homes so the rest of the animals know what awaits them if they dare to leave Al Thawra again. I don’t buy into this humanitarian crap that is being shoved down our throats because these people have lost their humanity, if indeed they had any in the first place. Its time for old fashioned Arab justice. I really don’t blame you for your anger and hatred towards these animals and I’m terribly sad to say that this new puppet government is mostly to blame although the Americans have a hand in allowing these militias to grow into such powerful, well armed organizations. God help the people of Iraq because there is much more to come.



sadiq2006 -> RE: People are sick (10/27/2006 6:29:47 AM)

[:D] JAAFAR thank you very much as an american citizen in uae you are right that maliki and these stupid kurdish jala and barazani are puppets they are discusting.[:D]



Barrence -> RE: People are sick (11/6/2006 6:46:46 PM)

I am unsure what the allies should do.

Total withdrawal say in the next six months.
Would the Iraqi people be happy with that?
Would they feel more secure?
If this withdrawal takes place, would there then be a fight for power whereby the strongest party would control Iraq?
Would it lead to another Saddam type Iraq?
If withdrawal takes place should the Allies/UN financially support Iraq until the country is back to normal? 



baghdadi -> RE: People are sick (11/7/2006 2:55:41 PM)

Barrence, first of all there are not  "allies" but invaders let that be clear, as they have destroyed Iraq.  Let them all leave and even if the Baath party comes back in power that is fine because at least we had a sense of a normal life. 



Barrence -> RE: People are sick (11/7/2006 5:19:03 PM)

Thank you baghdadi for your response I am not disputing invaders/allies, but do you feel that a majority of the Iraqi residents agree with you and would support the return of the Baath party. Or would that be better than the present situation being occupied by invaders?



Harry -> RE: People are sick (11/9/2006 10:25:39 AM)

Barrence.

I do not believe that anyone in Iraq supports the return of the Ba’ath party as a ruling authority, but life in Iraq has become so unstable, they would rather live under tyranny than have their lives endangered every minute of every day.
 
The intent is not to return to the days of Saddam, but at least (and this is the least I can say) during the Ba’ath ruling all you had to do is praise Saddam, not work against him, or the Ba’ath party, and you had a very good chance of being left in peace. However, these days, you can’t distinguish your friends from your enemies, you cannot trust the man passing by your house. Walking down the street is not as safe as it used to be, not even driving to a friend’s house. You can be stopped, dragged out of the car by gunmen who could be members of any faction, just trying to gain power and control as much land as they can.
 
The allies, lead by the U.S. have brought nothing buy chaos to Iraq, turned friends on each other, simple people from all factions who used to live in peace with each other, are no more friendly, they are killing each other with resentment.
 
All of this in name of democracy! Do you call the last four years in Iraq a democratic life? Do you feel that the murder of 600,000 Iraqis is a reasonable price to pay for democracy? On top of all that some are even talking about dividing Iraq into three regions (which eventually might become three separate countries), something I have said all along since the first day of the invasion (as if dividing Baghdad into a green zone and not so green zone is not enough). Is that what you want for Iraq? The country that millions of people were living in peace with each other, disregarding the differences between them, no one hated, the other because of religion, sector, or nationality. I grew up in Baghdad, being of an Armenian decent, never had any problems with Muslim friends, whether Sunni, or Shi’a. We never let these differences stand in the way of our friendship. Never once broke each other’s heart by a harsh racist remark, because we never even thought about these differences, as they have never even existed.
 
That is what I call democracy, that is what I call living in peace and harmony, not the roadblocks that you see in every street of every neighborhood throughout Iraq.
 
Unfortunately, Saddam thought he could benefit from the riches of Iraq, from its cultural richness, to its agricultural richness, and its black gold richness. He could have turned Iraq into the country of envy of the entire world, make it shine like gold, plant trees and make as green as its envious enemies. But unfortunately he chose to plant death and destruction, with his absolute power he spread corruption, and hatred. Now the allied forces are finishing the job that Saddam started.



Jaafer -> RE: People are sick (11/9/2006 6:12:21 PM)

To everybody
Despite this painful losses and humiliation in our country I ask the manager of this website to ask Ch4 in the UK to send him/her a copy of two documentaries they have shown two and three days ago about the life in Iraq. One is called the wasted youth and the other one called the Death Squads. Let the people from outside see what is happening in Iraq now. What ever bad President Saddam Hussein has caused is nothing compared with what those criminals has caused. Just read this article http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6129612.stm about just part of the cash which has disappeared from our banks and accounts. The report concentrate on 8 billions which the american criminal who supposed to look after it do not know where it has gone and he answers by saying does it matter? Further, after the failure of the Republicans to continue to control the Senate and the Congress Houses because of the stand-fasting of our and the Arabic and the Islamic Resistance, there is at least an increased talk of withdrawal from Iraq. There is talk of involving not just Syria but Iran in Iraq. Of course involving the later points to the continuous hatred and disregard to our lives. Why on earth an enemy which we have fought for 8 years is even thought of part of the solution although Iran proved itself as the main part of the problem? The west still cry from what Hitler has done to them, but they still want to disregard us but the facts are on the ground. We have particularly the fighters on the ground made them wish they never ventured into our country.

Contrary to a great deal to what has been said most of the death and destruction has came from outside; in addition to the western/jewish criminals, those criminals of "AlBader" (God forgive) are determined to destroy the country to try to lump the South and big part of the Middle to Iran. Of course they do not care at what will happen to the rest of the country. Although the British invaders are the masters of this divide and rule evil policy, those Iranians dirt are worst, their savagery are unparalleled. When people complain and ask who are you they reply by saying that they are AlMahde Army. You do not have to take it from me or even from the documentary where Mr AlAaraje; Muctada’s deputy has been asked about why AlMahde Army are committing these crimes against the Ira1qi people. He has answered by saying that we have some rotten apples but most of these acts are not caused by us. When pressed of who then? He has answered after the occupation the borders were open and foreigners infiltrated the country. This was as near as possible he can get to accusing their "partners" AlHakeem's gang. He said a criminal would not say I am the criminal. Even if you the readers want to use the same logic to say AlMahde would not admit  their crimes, I would like to ask the question why AlMahde army started the killing some 6 months ago while they were on the receiving side since the invasion by those who call them infidels?

No doubt that some of the blame fall on AlMahde Army because the documentary showed the killing of patients, doctors, people who went to pick up their dead just because they are Sunni like wise the killing of shoppers just because they are Shia' has been shown too.

The documentary showed some animal behaviour in prisons which can not be attributed to Iraqis in this intense savageries, like the rape of the 60 out of few hundreds male Iraqi prisoners also the rape of a women three times in the same day while the criminal Soulag was the interior minister. The Iranians of Mujahdeen Khalq have fought with no mercy even those who did not take part in the revolt of 1991. So those AlBader and Khalq are two faces of the same Iranain's dirty coin. Both must be kicked out. No peace in Iraq unless all the invaders and the foreigners will be made to leave with the exception to our brothers and sisters from Palestine.     

The documentary showed how life was happy for the Iraqis where ever the camera went. In AlHuria which everybody knows what it is now the males of one extended family have been killed in their bed rooms by the police although one member of the family was a policeman and said so to them. He ended up shot as well. AlJehad supposedly AlMahde army were stopping cars and picking up the Sunni and killing them in the streets. ...etc

Three families or what left of them en Sha Allah shows that Iraq will be liberated and more or less return to what it was. One fighter from alFaluja 17 years old has lost his mother when shot by the americans during the heroic resistance to them. She was shot by two bullets in her neck and then head.  Another 17 years old, him and his parents has been forced out because they are Shia'. The other family, the mother got her husband shot because he at Saddam. The other again from the same area has thought the invaders thought well of the invasion at the beginning but all of her sons and her husband were imprisoned for a year with out charge by the americans. All of those and others none of them said there is a Shia' Sunna Problem in Iraq and all of them blamed the invaders for creating such problems. I would like to add President Saddam and the behaviour of some of the sectarians in the residence are responsible for some of these crimes. Further never under estimate the work of Negroponti, British and the Jews death squads in addition to the criminal invasion in igniting this sectarian killings which are more of a revenge than anything else.

I wish people can deal or at least blame the intellectuals rather than those have nots. I know they are rude scary and it is very annoying to deal with those who has no mental ability as we can see in the crimes of the americans and the british troops. Who welcomed them is not an intellectual too.        
 



Zeynab Hassan -> RE: People are sick (11/10/2006 12:22:08 PM)

Yes Jaffar I agree with you. None of what is happening in Iraq has to do with shi'a and sunni people fighting in Iraq...but its actually the invadors and the media that are creating chaos in Iraq. They are blaming it on the shi'a and sunni people saying that they are fighting against each other. This way they will create hate and make people want revenge(shi'a from sunni and sunni from shi'a) from each other. That way they get what they want and its the division of Iraq. But thats why we need to stay together and be united, because our strength is in our unity...and they know that and that's why they're trying to make us fall apart. We shouldn't let them get what they want. We should stand up for one another and for our country...because no one knows what will happen to us and to our country in the days to come. Don't think that any of the groups in Iraq can be strong all alone no matter what percent they make up of the Iraqi population. And the invadors know that...thats why they want Iraq to be divided. Allah forbid.



ariannationkurdistan -> RE: People are sick (11/10/2006 4:50:23 PM)

it is everytime the same bullshit
oh yeah
the foreign media and occupiers are creating the shia sunni rift
the mahdi guy killed the man, decribed by the user baghedi because of the western media , sure
and responsable fpr the problems are the ultimate devils , the peshmerega and the kurdish leaders
the only one to be innocent in this game, are the poor arabs ,
western media is forcing them to kill each other , all misery brought upon them, is because of peshmerga

now i tell you one thing
barzani is  my leader , i voted for him and as every kurdish man, being able to fight , i will do it, if he calls for it
kak massoud is doing a lot to preserve peace in kurdistan, get the people back to their homeland , help the economy and provide security
you are loosers and not kak massoud
our pershmerga forces , the only and real army , are maintaning peace , defending freedom , they have saved the sunnis of balad of being wiped out by the shia
the are no death squads
only the rule of law in kurdistan
kerkuk and the flag are for me the two most important issues
i do not care about baghdad , anbar etc , because , if you get involved ,you will only hear startement like this and in the end , you loosers will try to take the war to the north, and kill the peaceful of kurdistan for no reason, as you are doing it all the time in central iraq
it is you killing each other , the only problem with you arabs , as it is always the case, you do not realize it
you have even managed to make the us forces helpless in stopping the fighting
who are you going to blame
just one exemple
arbil is now close to 2 millions , there are huge projects goning on and in two or three years, the skyline of arbil will have dozens of skycrapers and tall buildings
but bahhdad is desintegranting into several towns  , every month , up to 50.000-80.000 are being displaced , thousands are being killed by jash the terrorists mahdi and the wahabis
if kak massoud is a looser , then explain me , why arbil is like this and baghdad not



Zeynab Hassan -> RE: People are sick (11/11/2006 11:07:39 AM)




First of all no one was talking about "Kurdistan" your dream land, your fantasy. I think that you Kurds just live on dreams because no one has guaranteed that you will be independant. Even IF you do become dependent(which is far from reality) No one will consider you as an independent country, you don't even have history to rely on or any heritage. You have no oil or agriculture. What can you show people about your "land" others than a shepherd in the mountains blowing his flute. And about why arbil is like that while Baghdad is not is because Baghdad is where the fighting and all the crime is going on, arbil on the other hand lives under traitors that have decided to give their land to the hands of Americans. That's why it like that.





azinorum -> RE: People are sick (11/11/2006 12:14:24 PM)

Well said. I'm getting a little tired of Kurds talking as if they own the North of Iraq. The are renting it and paying a high price for the previledge.



Jaafer -> RE: People are sick (11/12/2006 7:42:36 PM)

to ariannationkudristan
I hope you remember too that I have told you that you and your other aliases are nothing more than a jew. your kurdish slaves never been than that. En Sha' Allah when the americans come to their full senses and withdraw, the traitors of the Kurds will go to where the Iraqi army used to make them breath thin air. Who knows may be that has contributed to their thin brains too. Our Brother Aqrawe has mentioned the pressure on the Islamists there by the doubly occupied Northern Iraq and I know that is true for sure.  After Allah En Sha' destroy Britain see what will happen to the traitors of Northern Iraq.  Let us see what will the "advanced" weaponry will do them and to you the occupiers of Palestine and the western brains.    
 
The british army were and are operating in the Middle and Northern Iraq since the invasion and until now, still and despite that and them the second and the head of evil on earth, they want everybody to believe that they never been north of AlKut. At the same time not just the Beshmarga, AlGader, jewish, americans but even jordainins took part in the attack on AlFaluja and every where else. Their American army friends were congarliting them openly but not in most media reports. Likewise as if we are fools them (US & UK) were even seen dumping the bodies of killed Iraqis in Baghdad only to blame these crimes on Iraqis. But still if we Iraqis kill one innocent Iraqi, it is one Iraqi too many. 
 
I do not know why those who are resisting the occupation think killing Iraqis who have not yet participated in killing other Iraqis but there may be a potential for them to serve the occupation, why not those people go and attack the western centers and who protect them? Take for example the dirty BBC office in Baghdad, those criminals and spies are letting their Junior staff saying how life is bad under the occupation. On the other-hand their senior staff are saying we are there and no matter what we should not leave. Of course there will be more audiance for the latter than the former. Further the first one's report will be transmitted say at 6.00AM in the morning where is the second will be transmitted 8.00 AM. This is how evil is the british but en shai' Allah we will return our country to our completely independent status soon, today 4 british dead tomorrow 40.



Harry -> RE: People are sick (11/13/2006 11:55:43 AM)

ariannationkurdistan

 
What a pathetic excuse for a post.
 
Why are you people such a low life that you turn every issue into Kurds Vs. Arabs? You keep calling northern Iraq “Kurdistan” the only time you will see Kurdistan is when you daydream. Keep building Erbil and the rest of the area, once things quiet down, all of that will be taken over by Iraq, and once again it will be called Iraq.
 
However, enough talk about dreams. The reason why the northern part of Iraq has no terrorist activities is because no one gives a damn about it. The important point is to control the capital “Baghdad”. Once you control Baghdad, you control Iraq in its entirety.
 
One other thing, It is in the interest of the west for the civil war in Iraq to continue the way it is, the least they get out of it is that they have nothing to do but sit and watch. Yet, most of the killings are done by no Iraqis, to stir up trouble, and convince the world that Iraqis are killing each other.
 Do you get it now? Or should we find another way to shove it into your empty skulls?



ariannationkurdistan -> RE: People are sick (11/14/2006 4:38:23 PM)

you insult president barzani all the time
if barzani is such a looser , why is kurdistan booming , the region he is responsable for
nor he or the peshmerga are responsable for baghdad or the situation in the rest of the country
if the peshmerga are terrorists , tell me , why arent there death squads , no masskidnappings , nothing of this kind in kurdistan
the only one who have dreams are you racists and cowards

harry
kurdistan is part of the republic of iraq and will stay there
no reasons for takeovers
the majority  of the killings are done by iraqis
this is a  fact and if you deny it , then you all are really day dreamers
wake up
the reason , why kurdistan is working , is not , because nobody gives a damn about it
because there is rule of law and nobody is engaging in this sectarian stupidty
as you all do it
as long as you do not start to tackle the problems by talking about it, you wont find a solution, it has nothing to do with kurds vs arabs
you claim all to be brothers but in reality , you all are xenophobic day dreamers and live in state of denial
as again proven by the user zeynab hassan
who starts to attack kurds by throwing out some idiotic statement about kurdish history and culture
guys wake up or you wont survive
why do you all deny the fact , that is is iraqi killing other iraqis ?
even it is an american, zionist , british or peshmerga  plot ,
why is possible to use it against the people
we are talking about the future of iraq  
you wont solve the problem by insulting everyone else and denying your own problems




jenny6664 -> RE: People are sick (11/14/2006 5:00:44 PM)

To Azinorusm, and maybe some of the others who care to read what I have to say,

I am not a Middle Easterner.  I am an American, and have very mixed feelings about what is happening in the M.E. 

First of all, I don't think anyone should knock the Kurds; in spite of all that has been done to them, they have retained their language, their culture, and are trying to hang on to a piece of land that they believe belongs to them.  Someone said, they were only 'renting' the land where they are now; BUT I give them a lot of credit for making it a viable, functioning, booming little country! 

They may not get all they think they are entitled to, but evidently NO country in the M.E. feels that way today.  Still, there is no violence going on there, and they are NOT killing each other or anyone else, which is certainly more than the Sunnis and Shiites can say!

There will NEVER be peace in Iraq until the people LIVING THERE, can get together and form a stable, civilized country.

I was against the U.S. invading Iraq, and still am, although, I can see nothing but a bigger bloodbath than there already is if we leave too soon.  Believe me, I am just as anxious as you all might be for us to leave -- I do NOT like young American guys belng killed every day just because they are there trying to stabilize a country that so far does not WANT to be stabilized.

There has to be some sort of republican form of government, and still be influenced by Islam, but the various sects there have to learn to live with each other and RESPECT each other's beliefs. 
jenny6664



jenny6664 -> RE: People are sick (11/14/2006 5:08:02 PM)

Harry,

In case you don't read papers or watch TV, what is shown to the world is that NO ONE is controlling Baghdad, except the militias.  Certainly the President (or Prime Minister) can do NOTHING so far!  Iraq will never be Iraq again until the religious sects get together and stop kidnapping and killing each other by the hundreds every day!  That is NOT the way to run a government!  LOL
jenny6664
p.s. if 'most of the killings are NOT done by Iraqis' then what countries do the Sunnis and Shiites come from?  The REAL terrorists can easily just sit back and watch the country destroy ITSELF!



Zeynab Hassan -> RE: People are sick (11/14/2006 8:22:44 PM)

Well Thanx for the info Jenny, although I don't think we need anymore American advice. All we get from you guys is lies and hate and discrimination aganist our Nationality and religion. We are getting enough in Iraq and we need no more, not on this MB . It is you guys that started all this chaos in Iraq and in the middleeast anyways, so why are you acting like this now. You know its getting old, and am getting tired of Americans and other westerners acting like they don't agree with their governments but its actually the governments that sends the people of your likes to act that way. They try to show the world that not all Americans are evil and that some of them are so kind and nice hearted. Just like how France acted like they were not on the USA's side when the war was about to start, but then as soon as it started they came right along. You all always act fake and we don't believe you all. You guys hate us because we are Muslims, and don't tell me you do not because none believes you guys. You guys live on other people's blood, and destroy countries killing millions of people just to please your own people.



baghdadi -> RE: People are sick (11/15/2006 1:25:59 AM)

Thank you, that is right I LOVE MY COUNTRY MY HOME MY PEOPLE IRAQ!  The Americans created this chasos and are fueling all the problems in Iraq, why then for hundreds of years sunni, shia, lived 2gether?  I can tell you that there are very few familys in IRaq that dont have sunni and shia in them.  and 99% of Iraqis want 1 Iraq not 3, except the Kurds.  Kurds are not even actually from northern Iraq, check your history.  I know some Pesmerga person will reply to this........This is a diffcult time but there will be a day it will become peaceful again, when? Only gods knows, but it will come............



Harry -> RE: People are sick (11/15/2006 9:58:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: jenny6664
Harry,

In case you don't read papers or watch TV, what is shown to the world is that NO ONE is controlling Baghdad, except the militias.  Certainly the President (or Prime Minister) can do NOTHING so far!  Iraq will never be Iraq again until the religious sects get together and stop kidnapping and killing each other by the hundreds every day!  That is NOT the way to run a government!  LOL


You sound like you misunderstood my post. That was exactly my point when I said, “Control Baghdad”, every sect is trying to get their hands on Baghdad (the capitol) first, then they will spread their poison throughout Iraq.
 
By the way, I do read newspapers, watch TV and listen to radio stations, and I don’t get my news from one source.



Harry -> RE: People are sick (11/15/2006 10:46:33 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan

you insult president barzani all the time

You stinking idiot[sm=smiley30.gif], where in my post did you read an insult to your so called president? besides, if that reagion is part of Iraq, then he could only be a governor, not a president. A country could only have one president.
 
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
if barzani is such a looser , why is kurdistan booming , the region he is responsable for



Read my post again. you might understand it this time, although I doubt it.
 
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
nor he or the peshmerga are responsable for baghdad or the situation in the rest of the country


No one blamed him for that.
 
 
[qoute]ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
if the peshmerga are terrorists , tell me , why arent there death squads , no masskidnappings , nothing of this kind in kurdistan
[/qoute]

Yes there are, you just don't want to sdmit it.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
the only one who have dreams are you racists and cowards


Wake up befor it's to late.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
harry
kurdistan is part of the republic of iraq and will stay there
no reasons for takeovers


NO. Kerkuk, Suleymania, Arbeel, etc... are part of the republic of Iraq.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
the majority  of the killings are done by iraqis
this is a  fact and if you deny it , then you all are really day dreamers
wake up


HAHAHAHAHA.[:D]

quote:

ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
the reason , why kurdistan is working , is not , because nobody gives a damn about it
because there is rule of law and nobody is engaging in this sectarian stupidty
as you all do it


[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
quote:

ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
as long as you do not start to tackle the problems by talking about it, you wont find a solution, it has nothing to do with kurds vs arabs
you claim all to be brothers but in reality , you all are xenophobic day dreamers and live in state of denial


Then whos words are these?
 
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ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
and responsable fpr the problems are the ultimate devils , the peshmerega and the kurdish leaders


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ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
as again proven by the user zeynab hassan
who starts to attack kurds by throwing out some idiotic statement about kurdish history and culture


Zeyneb did not start talking about Kurds, you did. you moron[sm=smiley30.gif].
 
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ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
guys wake up or you wont survive
why do you all deny the fact , that is is iraqi killing other iraqis ?


the feude between Sunnies and Shi'as will never stop, it's a centuries long stupid religious conflict that has no ending.
 
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ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
even it is an american, zionist , british or peshmerga  plot ,
why is possible to use it against the people
we are talking about the future of iraq  
you wont solve the problem by insulting everyone else and denying your own problems


That is exactly what we were doing when you rudely stuck your but in front of us.
 
We all know it is not just Sunni vs. Shi’a, and it is not the entire general public that is committing these acts. It is much more complicated than that, and it is one thing that the allied forces are counting on, and their governments wanted to happen so they can profit from it left and right.



Jaafer -> RE: People are sick (11/15/2006 7:41:27 PM)

 
To the americans who are asking for a way out,

The solution is simple first stop listening to blair and the jewish/neo cons and their media and stop believing their and your lies about the world and particularly us Muslims and Iraqis. Most of the killings including the sectarian killings are done by you. Future will show who has bombed the Sammaria' mosque is nobody but you. While this criminal operation has cost us thousands of Iraqis it did not stem your losses, so just get the f*** out.

How to do it is relatively simple and cheap and it is as follows. In your prisons and the prisons of your dogs there are no less than 30 thousand Iraqis. No less than twenty thousands are military people. Further there are no less than 50 thousand military personal which have been taken out of their positions in the army by the deba'athisation program. There are no less than a similar number of civil servants with the same fate in Iraq and Syria and other countries. Those people were running the country, how it was run has nothing to do with your invading countries. Remember your reaction to say just the sanctions.

Now it your armies and about 10 thousand Bader Brigades mainly Iranians and their sympathisers and few thousands from Beshmarga and few thousands Almahde together with few hundreds of your thieves who are running the ministries, military and police colleges.  You know where are those traitors in addition to your people are based. Therefore taking them out is very simple to your army and intelligence services. I do not mean killing them but take them out of Baghdad with your withdrawing troops. Order the Kurds to move to the North, they will obey that like what has happened when Qundaressa Rice ordered AlBarazane to stop calling for the independence from Iraq.

Rearming our released and reinstated army will not cost your country much. You have destroyed around 1000 tanks, 1000 long range artillery, 2000 armed personal carriers, and 2000 artillery, hundreds of radar, missile and communication stations I believe we still have our helicopters force and our airforce. You have destroyed our military and many civilian factories. It will not take more than a month for you to buy these equipment and place them in our bases and an immediate exchange of these military bases follows while the engines of your troops and equipment carriers are running and you drive out of the country immediately. The resistance must at least control “AlQaieda” or send them home if they can reach there safely unlike "bader" and its beloved Iran where they will be welcomed in open arms. Those who came to kill for their own sectarian reasons are terrorists like the invaders.   

The Kurds will not present a threat as long as the Beshmarga will be based outside and to the North of Karkuk. The force of the Iraqi army which will be assembled there will put an end to their dreams of splitting Iraq.

Your problems will end then but ours will continue for a while but not for long. Our problems come from serious engagement in the life of the country by everybody unlike yours where you merely live a superficial life.

All parties which took part in the resistance have the right to take part in ruling Iraq but no way will those who came on your tanks take part in ruling Iraq. Those who came with you and did not kill anybody and did not take advantage of the chaos in the country can still live in Iraq but none of them will take sensitive position in the running of the country.

President Saddam Hussein is our legitimate President and no matter what will happen to him after wards is our business not yours. Our money which you have stolen under what ever excuses totalling at least 80 billion dollars must be returned (oil for food, oil selling). Compensation for the killings and the damages must be paid by your country to us. The invasion did not cost your country 400 billions dollars because nobody talks about our money, the Arabian Gulf money which is being donated secretly to your country. Besides your government balance is less than say 300 billion dollars but most of these monies are in the account of your soldiers and your companies. In 1991 your country made 50 billion dollars out of our destruction. You have given 5 billion to your british masters, what criminals both of you are.              

Any suggestions??
 



ariannationkurdistan -> RE: People are sick (11/16/2006 10:16:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Harry

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ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan

you insult president barzani all the time

You stinking idiot[sm=smiley30.gif], where in my post did you read an insult to your so called president? besides, if that reagion is part of Iraq, then he could only be a governor, not a president. A country could only have one president.
 
 
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ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
if barzani is such a looser , why is kurdistan booming , the region he is responsable for



Read my post again. you might understand it this time, although I doubt it.
 
 
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ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
nor he or the peshmerga are responsable for baghdad or the situation in the rest of the country


No one blamed him for that.
 
 
[qoute]ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
if the peshmerga are terrorists , tell me , why arent there death squads , no masskidnappings , nothing of this kind in kurdistan
[/qoute]

Yes there are, you just don't want to sdmit it.

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ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
the only one who have dreams are you racists and cowards


Wake up befor it's to late.

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ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
harry
kurdistan is part of the republic of iraq and will stay there
no reasons for takeovers


NO. Kerkuk, Suleymania, Arbeel, etc... are part of the republic of Iraq.

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ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
the majority  of the killings are done by iraqis
this is a  fact and if you deny it , then you all are really day dreamers
wake up


HAHAHAHAHA.[:D]

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ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
the reason , why kurdistan is working , is not , because nobody gives a damn about it
because there is rule of law and nobody is engaging in this sectarian stupidty
as you all do it


[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
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ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
as long as you do not start to tackle the problems by talking about it, you wont find a solution, it has nothing to do with kurds vs arabs
you claim all to be brothers but in reality , you all are xenophobic day dreamers and live in state of denial


Then whos words are these?
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
and responsable fpr the problems are the ultimate devils , the peshmerega and the kurdish leaders


quote:

ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
as again proven by the user zeynab hassan
who starts to attack kurds by throwing out some idiotic statement about kurdish history and culture


Zeyneb did not start talking about Kurds, you did. you moron[sm=smiley30.gif].
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
guys wake up or you wont survive
why do you all deny the fact , that is is iraqi killing other iraqis ?


the feude between Sunnies and Shi'as will never stop, it's a centuries long stupid religious conflict that has no ending.
 
quote:

ORIGINAL: ariannationkurdistan
even it is an american, zionist , british or peshmerga  plot ,
why is possible to use it against the people
we are talking about the future of iraq  
you wont solve the problem by insulting everyone else and denying your own problems


That is exactly what we were doing when you rudely stuck your but in front of us.
 
We all know it is not just Sunni vs. Shi’a, and it is not the entire general public that is committing these acts. It is much more complicated than that, and it is one thing that the allied forces are counting on, and their governments wanted to happen so they can profit from it left and right.


no you didnt, you do something else

you call me a stinking idiot a moron , deny the fact , that kurdistan exist ( which millions of you  iraqi compariots  call their home )  and call barzani a looser
and accuse kurdish forces of organizing death squads etc.
other users deny kurdish history and culture or like baghdadi , who denies a 2700 year old history of kurdish and iranian  settlement in kurdistan
you proove all the time , and over the years that you have no  respect for kurds
this is a matter of maturity and respect
the first sentence starts by mentioning barzani ( why )
what does he have to do with  the mahdi guy in baghad killing fellow iraqis and then call him a looser
the main problem is , that you all on this forum assume to be more iraqi then me or other iraqis , who do not share your view and opinions
jaafer is really a funny guy
by calling me a jew and badr fighters iranians ,  really his racism and xenophobia
he want the iraqi army  to fight other iraqis and talks like he is owning iraq
he calls sadam hussein, a man guilty of war crimes and the killing of over one million iraqis the legimate president
why does he
is it not because he does not care about other iraqis
it seems that he is not interested in kurds or shia or every other iraqi who does not share the same opinion and does not like sadam hussein and his baathist regime
if he would , then he wouldt call for sadam again
the problem with you, is that you seem to know that iraqs consists of different people and different ideas but you are not able to understand the consequences of it
iraq is an union of peoples
the talk of seperation
i as a kurd and the whole leadership do not want to seperate but exercise our legimate right ( this is a difference ) , which the arab centralist government have taken away despite promises
the subject is not about seperation, which is a natural right but to redirect the balannce
iraq is an union and not a centralist approach  of an arab nation state
but people like you folks , who thinks of themselves  as being the real iraqis and the other one only seperatists or iranians , what an easy description
for me , kerkuk does matter more then the violence in baghdad
it is iraqis killing other iraqis
as long you do not admit it , nothing will change
people like jaafer are the best exemple
talking everytime "iraq" but demanding death to other iraqis and using the tools of the iraqi state , which in fact should belong to us all, to fullfil his dreams of denying federalism or a referendum in kerkuk
people should look for solutions and not for confrontations



sadiq2006 -> RE: People are sick (11/17/2006 4:43:52 AM)

[:@] first of all ariannationkurdistan there IS NO SUCH THING AS KURDISH CIVILIZATION IT IS ALL BULLSHIT AND BIG LIES YOU KURDS HAVE NO CIVILIZATION AND THE PERSIAN CIVILIZATION IT IS NOT KURDISH , YOU KURDISH HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY CIVILIZATION AND AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN IRAQ OR MESOPOTAMIA HAS A CIVILIZATION 8000 YEARS AGO THAT IS IRAQ CIVILIZATION AND YOU KURDS DO NOT HAVE ANY CIVILIZATION SECOND KARKUK AND IRBIL AND SULAMANIA AND DAHUK ARE MESOPOTAMIANS CITIES NOT KURDISH SO STOP FAKING THE HISTORY YOU KURDS , YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY SELFRESPECT OF YOUR OWN YOU KURDS WERE ORIGINALLY FROM ARIANS HOW LIVED SOUTH OF RUSSIA NEAR QAZWIN SEA FAR FROM MESOPOTAMIA , SO PLEASE LIEING TO OTHER PEOPLE YOU ARE NOT FROM NORTH OF IRAQ AND YOU ALWAYS LIVED IN MOUNTIANS SO GET THE HELL OUT OF MESOPOTAMIA YOU CRAZY KURDS YOU KILLED YOU MASCARAD YOU MANY BAD THINGS BEFORE 200 OR 300 YEARS AGO IN THE DAYS OF THE CRAZY STUPID OTTOMANS TIME GOD YOU KURDS CRAZY LIERS , STOP LIEING TO PEOPLE STOP FAKING THE HISTORY. [:@]



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