BEIJI, Iraq - The U.S. Army will investigate charges that American soldiers were involved in the killings of four Iraqi relatives, including a woman who had been raped, military officials said Friday. It's the sixth current inquiry into the alleged slayings of Iraqi civilians by American troops.
Some of the five soldiers also allegedly burned the body of the woman they are accused of assaulting in the March incident, a U.S. military official told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case. The U.S. command issued a statement saying only that Maj. Gen. James D. Thurman, commander of coalition troops in Baghdad, had ordered a criminal investigation into the alleged killing of a family of four in Mahmoudiyah, south of Baghdad. At least 14 American troops have been convicted in other cases. The United States also is investigating allegations that two dozen unarmed Iraqi civilians were killed by Marines in the western town of Haditha on Nov. 19 in a revenge attack after one of their own died in a roadside bombing. "The entire investigation will encompass everything that could have happened that evening. We're not releasing any specifics of an ongoing investigation," military spokesman Maj. Todd Breasseale said of the Mahmoudiyah allegations. "There is no indication what led soldiers to this home. The investigation just cracked open. We're just beginning to dig into the details."
Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said he had no additional details on the incident but added that the military routinely investigates all allegations of misconduct. However, a U.S. official close to the investigation said at least one of the soldiers, all assigned to the 502nd Infantry Regiment, has admitted his role and been arrested. Two soldiers from the same regiment were slain this month when they were kidnapped at a checkpoint near Youssifiyah. The official told the AP the accused soldiers were from the same platoon as the two slain soldiers. The military has said one and possibly both of the slain soldiers were tortured and beheaded. The official said the mutilation of the slain soldiers stirred feelings of guilt and led at least one of them to reveal the rape-slaying on June 22. According to a senior Army official, the alleged incident was first revealed by a soldier during a routine counseling-type session. The official, who requested anonymity because the investigation is ongoing, said that soldier did not witness the incident but heard about it. A second soldier, who also was not involved, said he overhead soldiers conspiring to commit the crimes, and then later saw bloodstains on their clothes, the official said. He also said the four people killed included three adults and a child, and one of the adults was the woman who allegedly was raped. One of the accused soldiers already has been discharged and is believed to be in the United States, several U.S. officials said on condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing. The others have had their weapons taken away and are confined to Forward Operating Base Mahmoudiyah. Senior officers were aware of the family's death but believed it was due to sectarian violence, common in the religiously mixed town, a U.S. official said. The killings appeared to have been a "crime of opportunity," the official said. The soldiers had not been attacked by insurgents but had noticed the woman on previous patrols.
Today we are hearing the horrific news of the rape and killing of the child ('abeer) in Mahmodia by american thugs. It is so horrific that I feel totally wordless as I see that "Great mad nation" launching the space shuttle. It should be crystal clear now to all those excited to work with US that they are part of this horrific crime. I hope that day will "not" come when Bush's daughter is raped by Iraqi soldiers. Or the daughter of Maliki or Talabani or Barzani... but surely they need to have a feel.
the pathetic thing isn't what the USA has been doing, the solders confessed the killing which took place a while ago. The pathetic thing is the so called Iranian government, I mean the Iraqi government, execuse me. This government doesn't even have a clue of what's going on until after the fact! If it wasn't for the islamic group that claimed this on a website, both the US and Iraqi governments would have been quiet about it. Now Maliki is trying to be 'nashmi' by conducting a probe. A probe on what idiot? the guys who did this already confessed. You puppets of US and Iran go back to the countries you came from and leave Iraq to its people. You are a disgrase you bunch of losers.
a probe on this and a probe on that while thousands of Iraqi girls were raped in iraq and you don't do a thing about it. I think it's better for you Maliki to stay in the green zone, you are useless anyway.
man you're a joke!
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Today we are hearing the horrific news of the rape and killing of the child ('abeer) in Mahmodia by american thugs. It is so horrific that I feel totally wordless as I see that "Great mad nation" launching the space shuttle. It should be crystal clear now to all those excited to work with US that they are part of this horrific crime. I hope that day will "not" come when Bush's daughter is raped by Iraqi soldiers. Or the daughter of Maliki or Talabani or Barzani... but surely they need to have a feel.
Yeah you iraqis are real angels arent you? Torturing innocent civilians, launching gas attacks on kurdish villages, igniting wars against your neighboring countries and killing your own citizens in bloodbaths.
Oh right I forgot!!! Few soldiers from hundreds of thousands of coalition soldiers killed a few people. This must mean they are all demons!!! I should kick myself in the head for not realizing it before!
PS: Sink in your own s..t Havalkaka
< Message edited by jukka -- 7/6/2006 10:51:50 AM >
Hey jukka, grow up boy and behave yourself, you filthy yankee.(wash your bum first)
Crime is crime no matter how many. Two crimes don't cancel out. I agree with you Iraqi army was no better, they also raped and murdered but under the eyes of US and with their protection. So was the war against Iran and kuwait. It was all with the blessings of that nation that says "In God we trust". The facts about US crimes are too many. If you want large numbers then remember Hiroshima, just few years ago it was wiped off just to test atomic bomb and for no military purpose...
< Message edited by havalkaka -- 7/6/2006 2:39:06 PM >
Once again the US of A has added another shamfull chapter in its history, it seems to me that where ever these people go they create a complete mess that no body could resolve. In Japan they Massacared 150 thousands of innocent civilians just say to the world that no body is capable of standing against them, yet we see that the same USA was defeated in Vietnam by a picture of 10 year old Napalm stricken Vietnamies girl. Now the USA and its allies are strugglling in Iraq and the signs of exhaustion are quite clear, there is an old phrase that say when U R tired , U start making mistakes and some times like the Rape Of 3Abeer the innocent Iraqi girl is a great mistake that has no forgiveness in a conservative society like the Iraqi society. Reading the Arab Mind probabley was a great mistake a book which completley mislead Ur thoughts with respect to the nature of Iraqies. Iraqies will not pass by Ur presence in Iraq without saying NO! and to be quite frank with the american people (( From a low lives like you the americans we should not expect more)). The funniest thing which I saw was President George Bush appologising on what happened in Abu Ghraib prison (crimes commited on Iraqies by the american thugs) to the king of Jordan instead of Iraqies Looooool. This reminds me of another phrase which comes to mind which is (( Do not S***t where you eat))
ORIGINAL: jukka Yeah you iraqis are real angels arent you?
Compared to you and your type, I think we are. We certainlty are not devils.
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Torturing innocent civilians, launching gas attacks on kurdish villages, igniting wars against your neighboring countries and killing your own citizens in bloodbaths.
The USA has don all the above plus worse.
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Oh right I forgot!!! Few soldiers from hundreds of thousands of coalition soldiers killed a few people. This must mean they are all demons!!!
Only a few?. there has been over 500 reported cases of rape, torture, unlawful death etc. just imagine how many more cases there are which are hidden or not yet reported. I dont characterise that as a few. Also, the whole US army should all feel ashamed for these actions. I see the army as one big organisation. If one person or member screw up, then it affects everyone.
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PS: Sink in your own s..t Havalkaka
Why dont you sink in yours. Do it the American way :-)
What a sad little man you must be. When I say sad I mean stupid, ill educated, moronic and well, American. At least I presume you are American because your argument (if I can call it that) is straight out of kindergarten. A bunch of other morons (perhaps you are related) rape and murder a poor innocent child and you don't have the common decency to condemn it. Instead you defend the actions of these animals by trying to enlighten us with the following comment.
“Yeah you iraqis are real angels arent you? Torturing innocent civilians, launching gas attacks on kurdish villages, igniting wars against your neighboring countries and killing your own citizens in bloodbaths”.
Now listen carefully moron, you might just learn something.
In 1980, it was primarily Reagan and Bush who encouraged Iraq's war against Iran. That's obvious, although many Americans, the same Americans who cannot tell the difference between Saddam and Bin Laden, are clueless to this fact.
On December 20, 1983 special envoy Donald Rumsfeld was sent by Reagan to "thaw" relations between the United States and Iraq. Saddam was using chemical weapons on the Iranians at the time, but that really wasn't an issue. Rumsfield tried to say later he slapped Saddam's hand for using chemical weapons, but a declassified cable recording of the meeting reveals Rumsfeld didn't even mention it. Is it possible Reagan knew about Saddam's human rights violations, or was he taking a nap at the time, as he was prone to do back in the day? As the evidence indicates, Bush Senior knew for certain. So did a lot of other people in the Reagan administration.
In 1984, the CIA whose director was George Bush Sr. began to secretly supply Iraq with intelligence that was used to calibrate mustard gas attacks on Iranian troops. The following year Reagan established full diplomatic relations with Iraq.
In 1985, the Reagan administration encouraged American corporations licensed by the US Department of Commerce to export biological and chemical materials to Iraq including anthrax, botulinum toxin, and other toxigenic and pathogenic substances, according to a 1994 Senate report. Companies doing business with the Butcher of Baghdad include Hewlett Packard, Dupont, Honeywell, Alcolac International, and Bechtel Group, to name but a few. In total about $1.5 billion worth of biological agents and high-tech equipment was exported to Iraq from 1985 to 1990.
So Jukka the moron, as you can see the United States spent virtually an entire decade making sure that Saddam Hussein had almost whatever he wanted.
In 1991 a week after the war, Saddam Hussein turned to crushing the Shiite population in the south of Iraq and the Kurdish population in the north: what did the United States do?It watched. In fact, rebelling Iraqi generals pleaded with the United States to let them use captured Iraqi equipment to try to overthrow Saddam Hussein. The U.S. refused. Saudi Arabia, the USA’s leading ally in the region, approached the United States with a plan to support the rebel generals in their attempt to overthrow Saddam after the war: the Bush administration blocked the plan, and it was immediately dropped.
I won’t go into how many Iraqis died as a direct result of the UN sanctions which was mainly sponsored by the US government but estimates According to UN studies state that roughly 150,000 civilians, more than half of them children, were dying every year as a direct result of U.N. sanctions. Now we have new figures that state approx 655,000 Iraqis have died since the end of the 2003 US invasion. Thanks for giving us democracy guys, we feel so much safer now.
“Oh right I forgot!!! Few soldiers from hundreds of thousands of coalition soldiers killed a few people. This must mean they are all demons!!! I should kick myself in the head for not realizing it before!”
You should kick yourself in the head period. Crawl back into whatever hole you slithered out of. You are a disgrace to your people but then again what can we expect from an American Moron who was stupid enough to post such ill informed comments on an Iraqi site.
Moron: a psychology-related term for a person with a genetically determined mental age between 8 and 12.
Thanks Tigris. I used to post comments from Baghdad on the now obsolete “Iraqi Oasis” as the war was unfolding in our country and it was infested with Morons from the US. Sad to say that Jukka is not the only American who lacks basic knowledge of what has taken place over the years but they post their comments regardless. I wouldn’t mind but they don’t have a clue about how to structure an argument. Their policy, much like their governments, is to attack first and ask questions later.
I was just pointing out that if 1% of the hundreds of thousands of US soldiers in Iraq commit crimes, that doesnt mean that all the soldiers are bad or all the americans are bad. Just like when Saddam was in power some Iraqi soldiers killed a lot of people but that doesnt mean that all iraqis are bad. The point is that if you use this logic against the US it can also be used against Iraqis. So sorry if it offended someone. I believe that human beings everywhere are basically the same, so attacking one nationality is like attacking all human beings.
Yeah its true that Reagan gave Saddam bad weapons and Reagan was an azzhole but hes dead now. You cant prosecute him anymore.
listen crazu jukka you dump there is no such thing as kurdish village the lurds they never had a land in mesopotamia GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD DUMP, THE KURDS INVADID THE MESOPOTAMIA AND KILLING THE NATIVE PEOPLE THERE AND IN SUCH STUPID STUPID WAY THEY ARE CLAIMING THAT THIS THERE IS, YOU KNOW WHAT JUKKA YOU ARE DISCUSTING, COMPARING TO THE IRAQIS (YES THE IRAQIS ARE ANGELS) WHETHER YOU LIKE OR NOT.
Jukka Are you a joker or stupid or what? The Iraqi army is the army of the Iraqi, Arab and Muslim people and as you can see it is the world's army. When we will kick the americans, british, jews and Iranians out of Iraq. Everybody will be laughing at the first two and espacially the first that the last two would not dare to make further trouble which use people like you as fools and criminals.
The entire American/British/Jewish armies are criminals so is the Beshmarga/Bader because all of their acts are criminal and this is the invasion of Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan. Bashmsarga are not just criminals but traitors and fools too. On the otherhand only some elements in the Iraqi Army, AlMahde Army are criminals.
Yopu do not approve of Iraq as your country, get out of it. Go to Kurkia both of your lots are not from our area.
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listen crazu jukka you dump there is no such thing as kurdish village the lurds they never had a land in mesopotamia GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD DUMP, THE KURDS INVADID THE MESOPOTAMIA AND KILLING THE NATIVE PEOPLE THERE AND IN SUCH STUPID STUPID WAY THEY ARE CLAIMING THAT THIS THERE IS, YOU KNOW WHAT JUKKA YOU ARE DISCUSTING, COMPARING TO THE IRAQIS (YES THE IRAQIS ARE ANGELS) WHETHER YOU LIKE OR NOT. 
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