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what is wrong with the security forces - 4/14/2006 6:29:27 PM   
ariannationkurdistan

 

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i want to talk about an incident which occured taday
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/iraq;_ylt=AlzDCAeOhBePYItr7Vbcr_5X6GMA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
The attack, the deadliest against police here in months, began about 7:30 p.m. Thursday as a convoy of 109 police was traveling through a sparsely populated area near the Taji base heading back to Najaf, 100 miles to the south, Maadal said.
Police heard cries of "Allahu akbar," or God is great, and "long live jihad" broadcast by loudspeaker from a nearby mosque, Maadal said. Suddenly insurgents, including some women, opened fire and triggered a roadside bomb.
Maadal said 37 policemen returned to Najaf late Friday and about 20 more were en route. About 40 remained unaccounted for. At least nine policemen were killed and three of the 12 vehicles were heavily damaged, Johnson said.

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/cctimes/news/nation/14341496.htm?source=rss&channel=cctimes_nation
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Gunmen ambushed a large police convoy in a rural area north of the capital on Thursday, killing at least 17 officers, according to a police lieutenant. Elsewhere, an attack on a Shiite shrine and the assassination of a Sunni Arab politician's brother threatened to further inflame sectarian tensions as Iraqi factions struggle to form a national government.
The brazen assault on a convoy of 50 to 60 police cars erupted outside the town of Taji, 12 miles north of Baghdad, said 1st Lt. Mouayiad Shukor, an officer with the police rapid reaction force in Najaf province.
Shukor said approximately 90 officers from four stations in Najaf had just picked up new cars in Taji and were traveling south to get new weapons and ammunition when they found the main road blocked by U.S. troops. The Americans told the Iraqis that they had discovered a bomb on the road and told them to take a detour through the countryside, following them part of the way before letting them go on alone, Shukor said.
A roadside bomb exploded, and attackers hidden in the orchards and farmhouses flanking the road opened fire on the convoy with Kalashnikov assault rifles and RPK machine guns. Over the course of a two-hour firefight, all the police cars were destroyed, Shukor said, and survivors fled to a nearby military base on foot and by hitching rides.
Shukor said that only five of the 22 men in his unit returned to Najaf alive. The governor of Najaf, Asad Sultan Abu Gulal, and the police chief for the area, Brig. Gen. Abbas Moadal, both confirmed that an attack had taken place, but neither official would say how many police were killed.


a convoy of 109 police officers was attacked by insurgents
what i do not understand is why does it look like that our security forces can be wiped out that easily
109 armed  men re not an easy target but the impression i have from this articcle is that the men are lucky that they got back alive  and is is unusual that they do not even have news about dozens of men who were with them ,
the reaction of the police does like that they simply fled without even resisting or supporting eachother

thre are only two options left
it was a huge insrgent force , overhelming the police easily but that is not a typical insurgent attack or that the police has no discipline and moral to fight the enemy

what is your opinion

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RE: what is wrong with the security forces - 4/15/2006 12:10:41 PM   
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I do not understand that either...
109 policemen! I live in town of about 300 000, I think there are not even that many policemen in the whole of my city...

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RE: what is wrong with the security forces - 4/16/2006 7:40:15 AM   
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yeah it is a bit embaracing and shows that the security fiorces are far from being in control of the situation.
I think the problem is that the interior ministry (which is responsible for the police force), is so corrupt that there are many police officers who are under-equipped, no life vests, some have no rifles or anything. The interior minister is a member or the Iranian-backed Badr Brigade and Al Hakim's SCIRI party. Only the special forces and commandos and those in the police force that are party members or members of the Badr Brigade militia are well-equiped, while other ordinary police men are not, and hence you have these incidents where insurgents take advantage.
The management of interior ministry should change immediatly. Jaafari and that interior minister (Bayan Solagh Jabr) should step down and give their posts to a real Iraqi and someone who is neutral, and who would not mix his party or militia with the post he/she is covering.   

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RE: what is wrong with the security forces - 4/19/2006 7:28:56 PM   
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All those who kill the innocent will be punished no my me but by God is this life or the after.  BAdr, Mahdi,Peshamga gangsters only make Iraq worse.  I wish we had real secruity not mitilas, this is done so the Americans can continiue to steal will out any account.  

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RE: what is wrong with the security forces - 4/20/2006 5:34:17 PM   
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Kurdish peshmerga did not kill any policeman.

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RE: what is wrong with the security forces - 4/28/2006 11:35:31 AM   
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today
the moqame terrorists were defeated by determinent iraqi army in baqubah
49 moqame terrorists had been killed but seven iraqi heroes have died too
this time the iraqi army and police reacted the way , we expect from them to do in this kind of situations
not to run away , but to defend their positions and fire back ,
the moqame lost at the gates of the city of baqubah , and their attack was repelled

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060428/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_060428143820;_ylt=Av8uj1.1GXDBDA7yoa2LESUUewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTA2ZGZwam4yBHNlYwNmYw--
New information also emerged about an unusual series of coordinated attacks Thursday by insurgents in and around Baqouba.
Using mortar rounds, rocket-propelled grenades and small arms fire, the insurgents attacked five police checkpoints, a police station and an Iraqi army headquarters, Iraqi and U.S. officials said.
Clashes and raids continued through the night, officials said. In addition to the seven Iraqi soldiers, Ahmed said 49 insurgents were killed and 74 others were arrested. U.S. officials said two civilians were killed and the wounded included 10 Iraqi soldiers, four policemen and four civilians.



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RE: what is wrong with the security forces - 5/2/2006 8:02:42 AM   
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Specials > Iraq in Transition
from the May 01, 2006 edition


'WHERE IS MY SON?' At a rally last November of detainees' relatives at Iraq's Ministry of Human Rights in Baghdad, a woman held her son's photo and a sign asking where he is.
ALI AL-SAADI/AFP


Families hunt for Iraq's 'lost'
More than 34,000 Iraqis have been jailed, but officials often do not know where.
By David Enders | Contributor to The Christian Science Monitor
BAGHDAD – At the small, crowded prisoner-tracking department of the Ministry of Human Rights (MOHR), tears often flow freely.
"He was arrested from his house on December 25," sobs Jameela Abdullah Hikmet, who was looking for her brother, Jameel Abdullah Hikmet.

With thousands of Iraqis kidnapped and arrested over the past three years, often in murky circumstances, the MOHR has become one more place Iraqis look for missing relatives. More than 34,000 Iraqis, according to MOHR figures, are held at one of the dozens of prisons across the country run by either the US military or the Iraqi Ministries of Interior, Defense, and Justice.

The rest of the tragedy is on
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0501/p06s02-woiq.html

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May Allah Burn the hearts of the occupiers and their dogs. May Allah give patience to this women and every victim and his or her family. May Allah burn the occupiers' lands and turn their living upside down like they have done to our beloved people and our beloved country.

34 thousand Iraqi prisoners in one prison! and the tragedy of our honourable sister is being repeated daily all over Iraq ever since the occupation. Yet you still have traitors praising these crimes and calling the slaves and the traitors and the Iranains as our government and our security forces! If they are so, which government in the world installed by the occupiers and can claim legitimacy? What does legitimacy means to you; who are supporting the current situation? If you are so low or so shallow, why were you bothered about President Saddam and what he (they) has wrongly done? These questions are only directed to the Iraqis. Iraq is from Zakho to southern Kuwait, now only to southern AlFao.  If you want to say that the Iraqi people has elected them, why then those "government" do not ask for the occupiers to leave? Surely who has elected them, will protect them, like for example, those who protected President Saddam Hussien and are now telling the occupiers, Iraq is not your land but it is for all of the Iraqis and will be and must be rulled by the liberators and not by the liars. So where are your men you slaves?

Our men are mainly in AlAnbar and Diyala provences and surrounding our capital Baghdad. Where are your men you traitors, a documentary about Ba'aqooba has shown that the Americans troops use those traitors as mine sweepers like dogs. They order them to walk in front of them, not just when all of them are on foot patrol, but even when they are in their military vehicles. The film shows the stinking american officer orders the "Iraqi army trainee" to leave the vehicle and search what they have suspected to be a bomb hidden among the bushes. In one incident there was an explosion and the traitors was reduced to nothing and the occupiers continued. It was not much of a loss to anybody as the traitors have already reduced himself/herself to nothing once they have agreed to serve the occupiers. This is the fate of the occupiers and the traitors, nothing in life will last; not even the good things so why anybody thinks bad things will last. Iraq will be Free.          

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RE: what is wrong with the security forces - 5/2/2006 8:06:26 AM   
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Sorry Hurry, it seems I have done it again. Please remove the spaces and insert the photo of our sister. Everything was all right on Word but became as you can see. Even the photo was there.

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RE: what is wrong with the security forces - 5/2/2006 12:01:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jaafer

Sorry Hurry, it seems I have done it again. Please remove the spaces and insert the photo of our sister. Everything was all right on Word but became as you can see. Even the photo was there.


I did get rid of the spaces, but it appears that the image does not exist on the web anymore. You might want to write to the administrator about it.
By the way it is not Hurry it is Harry (with an A)


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RE: what is wrong with the security forces - 5/3/2006 10:21:45 AM   
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Harry, the photo of our sister searching for her son is on the referenced website
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0501/p06s02-woiq.html

I still can not lift it and past it here. If you can please do so. To those who live in the UK and Western Europe you can watch a tV programme about the struggle of our mothers and sister; the women of Iraq on Channel 4 8.00-9.00PM on Monday 8/5/06, I am sure it is worth viewing. CH4 unlike the BBC represent the only truthful Channel in the UK. I give you an example about the BBC, regarding the explosion which has killed three mercenaries and injured two in AlBasrah recently, the BBC has reported that item as the explosion has happened south of Baghdad. Also no report of the fight three days ago between the resistive AlAmarah's freedom fighters and the occupying British forces. This is how they want to cheat their people that major section of the Iraqi people welcome them.  This is why they have picked the lowest of all Iraqis to beat their filthy drums.      

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RE: what is wrong with the security forces - 5/4/2006 12:34:38 PM   
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I tried that too, but the system is not uploading any images. I have to write to the Admin, hopefully he can find the glitch, and correct it.

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RE: what is wrong with the security forces - 5/5/2006 5:45:39 PM   
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Many thanks Harry.

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