have you seen the latest of saddams trials allah hu akbar he i a real man he is not afriad to talk like the rest of the traitors he says to the judge you a afraid of the intiorer ministy but he dont even scare my dog the way he talks he talks like and hero he looks like a real man not like the *********who a traitors to the great nation of iraq saddams says look at the tanks of the americans just outside the door the judge replies no the a not americans the international helping yeah he says like that because he is stupid as dog the judge if you kill saddam or dont kill him he is not afriad he will always be telling the thuth the day when judgemant day comes you traitors will be held accountable for the wrong doings you have done to the iraqi people and i am talking to the traitors allah hu akbar
< Message edited by tigris81 -- 6/7/2006 6:03:33 PM >
aliben, TO HELL WITH YOU AND WITH SADDAM YOU SCUM!! saddam is the reason why we are occupied by the international coalition forces. Sadda is the piece of **** who killed shia's and kurds because they were not sunni's. Any loyal iraqi would agree with me, and just to make sure, i'm not saying there is a difference between shia's and sunni's, because i see both as fellow iraqi brothers and sisters. The Baath party criminals are a different story though, and i'm an enemy of anyone who supports or sympothizes with that dog saddam.
Wow aliben, saddam is your role model?! i pity you and your ignorance...and i think the honourable judge should sentence him to death right away b/c its a shame to waste time and money, and food and bodyguards, on a miserable piece of pseudo-human whose own mother hated to the point she tried to abort him! ha ha! He's not brave he's dumb, and he's just proving that he's the most evil person of our era and may he fry in hell along with his associates and lovers, and may all suffering iraqis gain peace!
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ORIGINAL: Hasan88 Sadda is the piece of **** who killed shia's and kurds because they were not sunni's. Any loyal iraqi would agree with me, and just to make sure,
Hasan, first of all welcome to the forums. I disagree with your above quote. Saddam did not massacre 200,000 in the south following the 1991 uprising, or the 164 people in Dujail, or the 5000 or so Kurds in Halabja just because they were not Sunni Arabs. Saddam was a tyrant who would not give merci or pardon anyone that poses a threat to him and his seat in power. If anyone messed with him, then he would wipe them out and their whole community or area, regardless of what ethnicity and religion they were. If the people of Tikrit or Falluja did an uprising against him or tried to assassinate him then I guarantee you that he would have wiped out the whole town. The guy executed his own son-in-law (Hussein Kamel). So it has nothing to do with being Sunni or Shia or Kurd. This is unfortunatly the mentality of the 'new Iraq' and its very sad. I know Aliben's remarks are a bit out of hand (I disagree with him too), but we have to be realistic here about the Sunni thing.
Saddam may act brave but deep inside he is a coward for not admitting his crimes. If he was brave then he would of either fought and died against the occupation forces (the way his sons did), committed suicide (the way Hitler did), or surrendered himself to the new court and faced up to the allegations against him (the way Tariq Aziz did). He did neither. He disappeared after the fall of Baghdad hiding in a mud hole even after his thug sons got killed and now in his trials, he blames half of his crimes on Hussein Kamel (who is dead). He is not brave enough to even take the responsibility. Saddam tried to secretly have a peace agreement with the Bush and Clinton administrations before the war. Doesn't that make him a traitor?.
I agree with tigris. The Baath had, of course, an anti kurdish and even more anti shia tendency. But all in all, Saddam didn give a **** on someones ethnicity. Either you were pro or you were contra (=repression, murder, torture). But there was racism going on, you can not denied. Just look at the ethnicity of the former high officials, just take a look where the money went to. The ethnicity issue was denied, and now it errupts. I think this is a good thing, it is the only way to get the people to realize that Iraq is and will always e multi ethnic and to get the people to accept the other ethnicities. Acceptance and tolerance can only grow in a society that accepts and also is aware of the differences, of the many things everybody has in common and of knowledge of each others history, motives and traditions.
and I would like to add, that; demios (and his other names) ... think they can cheat the Kurds. Look dears, you will be paid what you deserve when everybody (individuals and nations) who is suffering from you starts acting independently and give you the same treat which you have been given the world (anglosaxons, jewish, russians, french). We do not need uniforms (or blue eyes) to start the revenge of humanity, the wolves and who beneifit from their crimes are not just occupying Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine .. but they are like cocroches, every where. They are showing the killing of our people as a proof of how efficient their work is.
We know what Saddam has done but nobody dared to do this to us before. Look how the jews and the british got those americans to destroy us, this is Iraq. Look how "the oppositions" were and are bending for the occupiers, they want to divide our Iraq, our oil, our people. Even our streets are divided by slaps of conceret. Where are your heroes, why do not they ask the invading armies to leave? President Saddam has killed and wasted far less but he has those who provided security for himself and more importantly for the country, the rats can not provide any. Eventually you will find them in these slaps of the concerte which they thought will protect them.
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< Message edited by Harry -- 5/30/2006 4:02:27 PM >
hey aliben, i'm sunni iraqi, all my family is sunni iraqis from Baghdad Adhamyya, and none of us support saddam. He's just an idiot , a coward and a criminal who destroyed iraq. So don't say bullshit like saddam is a hero for all sunnis
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< Message edited by Harry -- 5/30/2006 4:06:18 PM >
you are not from the Adhamyya, you only say so that you can say to the people look iraqies are with the usa agianst usa every one from the Adhamyya, that i know loves saddam hussien you are a traitor a spy for the usa if you dont like him he is a lion saddam and everyone who talks or laughs at him is apes
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< Message edited by Harry -- 5/30/2006 4:06:52 PM >
have you ever seen a lion hiding himself in a hole.. this is a rat my friend not a lion ... he propably a lion on u and was on us but on americans he a no mor then a RAT.....
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< Message edited by Harry -- 5/30/2006 4:09:02 PM >
Ali I honestly think you require some serious psychological help if you support, the cold-heart hideous satan: Saddam.
Second of all to the unconscious mods. in this forum, one of the first rules before I signed in was along the lines of "Do not insult Iraqis" and have respect, well if thats truly the case than how can a racist baathy-style person such as Ali still be allowed to post?
نحن نعيش في عالم مجنون صحيح لقد رأيت بأم عيني في المحكمة المحامي المصري الحمار يقول ان هؤلاء شرف الامة العربية اي امة واي شرف هل شرف الامة العربية يتمثل في مجموعة من الساقطين وقطاع الطرق الذين سيطروا على الحكم بطريقة غير شرعية وغير قانونية واذاقوا الناس الويل واعدموا الالاف وشردوا وهجروا ولكن بالنسبة للعرب كانوا حماة البوابة الشرقية ولا ازال اذكر صورة الملك الاجرب الحسين بن طلال وهو يرمي بالمدافع مع الجبان صدام صدام الجبان صحيح لأنه وجد مختبئ في حفرة حفرها لنفسه حتى الاعضاء القيادية في البعث اجبن من صدام نفسه
اقول لك يا اخي علي بن لو كان صدامك هذا اسد كما تدعي لكان على الاقل قتل نفسه في المعتقل او حينما القي القبض عليه صدامك الناقص هذا لا يعرف حتى المستحى ولا يعرف عبارة يا كاع انشكي وبلعيني ستقولون ليس عنده سكين ليقص وريده لو كان قد عض معصمه من الوريد ونزف الى ان مات كان ممكن اقول انه عنده شوية شجاعة وقتل نفسه قبل ما يلزموه الامريكان لكن هذه حقيقة صدامكم الجبان الذي كان اسد عليك وعلى امثالك وفي الحروب نعامة ما شفناه طلع في يوم من الايام في معركة او حرب فقط استعراض عضلات واطلاق عيارات نارية امام الناس الذين يهتفون بحياته المهم خوية روح راجع طبيب نفساني او انت واحد تعبان وغاوي تطلع فتن هنا بنص الجات
اخوك علي العراقي مهجر مكفّر معذب ميتم محكوم بالاعدام من القدماء والجدد
ORIGINAL: Maryjann Second of all to the unconscious mods. in this forum, one of the first rules before I signed in was along the lines of "Do not insult Iraqis" and have respect, well if thats truly the case than how can a racist baathy-style person such as Ali still be allowed to post?
P.S Hello I am new.
Hi Maryjann,
First of all, welcome to Iraq4u.
Secondly, the 'unconcious' moderators as you call them do not have the power to kick members out. If you have any objection to any member, then you can send a message to the Admin of the site because only the Admin can carry out such a task. As for this Aliben guy, I agree he is a bit of an extremist and if the Baathist party was to come back to power then I am sure Aliben will be its new head. However I at the same time feel that Aliben is just someone having a laugh and pretending to be an extremist, just to create sectarian rift and a big debate here. Therefore I'd just ignore him and his posts. The moderators can delete and edit posts, but that will not fully solve the problem.
السلام عليكم يا امة الاسلام الف تحية للاخ صلاح الدين ونحن نفتخر بالعراقي الحر الذي قال كلمة صحيحة وحرة وهنا اسئل لماذا قتل المجرم صدام الامام البدري وهو سني من سامراء ولماذا قتل وزير الصحة العاني وهو سني وقتل عدد من رفاقه في الحزب وهم سنة لذا اناشد كل عراقي شريف نحن كلنا اسلام ودم المسلم وماله وعرضه حرام على المسلم وخطبة الوداع اكد فيها صلى الله عليه وسلم على ذالك فصدام كان اناني حقير لا يحب الا نفسه ومصيره واضح وهكذا مصير كل من يريد الاستبداد بالحكم من الصديديمات الجديدة والسلام
Ya lal asaf all shadeed 3ala wa6an dummir min wara amthalkom..
Is this what you want? A government placed by Americans, tearing itself apart? Is what you want constant gun battles and cars the suddenly explode? Is racial hate and secularism what you want?
El rayyes taj rasi o raskom o ras kol 3iraqi. 3ala el aqal when we were living under him we were living in karama. El shabab mashaAllah yisawoonha 3abalak kol jara2em el 3iraq min wara el rayyes. Chan este7eitoo. 5aleekom la3ad. 5aleekom heech.
Danshoof el sha3b el 3iraqi el barbari mino ra7 yo7koma, lo niseito inahu kol ra2ees aw malek 3iraqi eghtalahu al sha3b bi istithna2 Saddam Hussein wa AbdelRahman Aref?
3eesho ib theimkom. Ahl el janoob 5aleehom yi3ishoon ta7t el 7okom el irani al 6aghi. Ya3ishoon ta7t milishiyat al mahdi wa badr. A55555555 ya 3iraqi ya 7abeebi. Ani mabee3 sharafi o karamti, o mahma kan el thaman. El 3iraqi entiha. It's over. There will never be an Iraq. There will be a sub-Iran, there will be American bases, there will be Kurds demanding seperation (Allahuma eqthif kol man arad taqseem biladna).
5aleekom heech. 3afya. Ya bay3een el wa6an. Allahu akbar 3aleikom, o Allahu akbar 3ala kol thalem ba3 el wa6an.
Sad, so very sad. As is the case with all Iraqis we can't agree on anything and some of the language used by alibenand others shows how deeply rooted our differences are. Saddam was a vicious dictator that did anything and everything to preserve his grip on power. But now that he's gone what are we left with? Terrorism, no eletricity, no petrol, no security, sectarian violence and a gangster culture and don't kid yourselves for one minute that things are going to get better soon. So lets be honest about the current situation in Iraq. Was it better when the Iraqi public had to worry about one animal like Saddam or the many animals that are now tearing the country to shreds? After over 3 years of occupation we now know the truth behind the US/UK invasion. The problem lies not with who rules the country but in the Iraqi people themselves. I am very sad to say that the great majority are unfit to govern this rich country. We have shown our true colours and greed, jealousy and petty differences will mean that we will continue to be nothing more than puppets for decades to come. Like it or not we deserved Saddam. The Mullas of Iran must be rubbing their hands in glee. We are giving them exactly what they have always wanted. God help Iraq and its god forsaken people.
first of all i have no problems with all shia and kurds there is good people and bad people i hate traitors and i am not a one who is sitting and having a laugh tigris81 i am one who is sad to see the fall of iraq because of people like talabani al sistani al hakim al sadr they are traitors and the are shoo shines for the usa and the jews like deimos are stelling irak ok and for saddam it doesent matter if he dies the people will always fight for the freedom agianst the occiupers and iam not a baathist nehiter am i are extremist iam marriared with a girl whom is chirsten it dosent mean anything but we have to see in our eyes that iran and usa and the jews having eaten irak all the good peole is gone but i love the politician adnan al duliami thanx for listening to me
اللهم من اعتز بك فلن يذل ,, ومن اهتدى بك فلن يضل ,,, ومن استكثر بك فلن يقل ,,, ومن استقوى بك فلن يضعف ,, ومن استغنى بك فلن يفتقر ,, ومن استنصر بك فلن يخذل ,,, ومن استعان بك فلن يغلب ,,ومن توكل عليك فلن يخيب ,, ومن جعله ملاذه فلن يضيع ,, ومن اعتصم بك فقد هدى الى صراط مستقيم اللهم فكن لنا وليا ونصيرا وكن لم معيناا ومجيراا انك كنت بنا بصيراا
After the crimes of the occupation come the false pretences of trying the criminals of Abu Gareab and Guantanamo. Only few numbers of the small time criminals are facing trials here and there, in fact outside Iraq the west never heard of what the Americans have done in the Airport prison. When mentioning anything about a torture in an airport prison, their minds flip to Bagram Airport prison in Afghanistan. For those who want to cheat themselves about the Western Justice, no less than 88 civilians in AlBasrah have been killed by the British after the have finished the invasion and there has not been a single prosecution. Two trials in Lancaster have been immediately thrown out of court when the prosecutor asked the families of the victims are not you here for money? When the answer was positive, the cases were thrown out by the Judge because “those people are not honest and will say anything to get money”!!!! What justice and what trials those savage invaders know? Their crimes are alive around the world and people still think we must treat the west as normal human beings. No less than 93 wounds and broken bones on the body of Baha’ Mossa but the criminals are free.
The British government has killed the lawyer which represented a british sailor who said the sinking of an Argentina war ship was not important as the ship was moving away from the prospective battle area. Another example, A Spanish lawyer has filed a law suite against the Chilean American puppet Pensheat in London, the Judges in London has thrown away the trial falsely sighting the Chilean’s criminal health and age. American has withdrawn its approval from the international court of the human right in the Hague after the latter has given a decision that America is committing war crimes against Nicaragua when they have placed mines around their ports in the eighties. But their leader Orttaga is back after fifteen years. Of course we all know that there were war crimes charges for the western crimes in Japan and Germany but there was the “justice’” of the victors against the German leaders. Even at the moment the law suite against Ramsfeld in Germany is for his authoristion for the torture in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo and not for his role in the criminal invasions, it seems the lawyers although they have excellent intentions are not even dreaming of getting Ramsfeld to court. This is why they have taken the decision not to press to try Bush and Blair for the destruction of at least our country.
The British clowns have approved the payment of nearly 4 thousand pounds to drug adects for not giving them drugs or equivalent while they are in prison! Those western clowns after the invasion and its crimes dare to appoint a court in our country to try our leadership for crimes against humanity. Everybody is quiet about the change of the two judges and the killings of the three defence lawyers. Nobody pointed to the role of the British and the American criminals who “trained” those traitors of how to execute the western orders. American and British Barristers not even Judges has “trained” the Iraqi traitors. You may say what is the difference, every ministry has its American master which renders even the minister to a salve. It seems not just the Iraqi traitors believe themselves as ministers, administrators, president, ..etc but the Americans and the British are under the illusion that they are the masters of Iraq. They still can not comprehend the size of the revolution which the resistance of the people of Iraq has caused in the conscience of the American people in America. The Iraqi resistance must respond in a dynamic way to what they have achieved. Killing simple minded people regardless whether they are small police or army officers, likewise anybody who engage in revenge operation is only adding sever problems to the future of our country, which will be free soon.
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i'm sunni iraqi, all my family is sunni iraqis from Baghdad Adhamyya, and none of us support saddam. He's just an idiot , a coward and a criminal who destroyed iraq. 
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