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What are the true reasons for invading Iraq - 2/11/2010 11:38:07 AM   
 
3jaj


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Hi everybody and Al Salam Alykom , I am new in this forum, and living in Baghdad.
What are the true motives or reasons for invading Iraq; in the wake of the Iraq war inquiry in the Netherlands and a similar inquiry in Great Britain, and after establishing that the previous regime neither did  poses any WMD’s nor any links to any boggy organizations, and if the entire Iraqi oil was controlled under the oil for food program, and if the regime was such an asset for the west that America and the west are working flat out to bring them back, ( I mean the Ba’ath party), I keep asking myself why the war in the first place? I would really appreciate some intellectualism with respect to the subject thread.  
Much appreciated
RE: What are the true reasons for invading Iraq - 2/13/2010 4:55:43 AM   
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The primary reason was pure revenge mentality. Add to that, the euphoria of a quick decisive defeat of an already weekened nation using remote weapons. Add to that, the desire of zionist to destroy saddam personally and add to that the fact that history repeats itself(Mongolians, Cowboys ...etc). Ofcourse euphoria of oil and theft and thuggery on the cradle of civilisation lieing underneath.

The british enquiry is nothing but a typical hypocracy of western mind. The whole west wanted  a "quick victory" and knew there were no WMD. In fact if they suspected any WMD smell, they would have thought hundreds of times before their party picnic in Kuwait then invading without bullet proof jackets right into centre of Baghdad.
But the wheel turned over... when one western soldier dies, everbody wants an escape. when thosands of others die, sorry that is collateral damage, we will do everything to avoid that.



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RE: What are the true reasons for invading Iraq - 2/13/2010 8:38:42 AM   
 
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Dear Havaklava,
Thanks for your reply, and I really appreciate this valuable dialogue that is going on this treasured forum, also I am deeply thankful of the moderators for allowing such high scope discussions, coming back to your reply how do you view the following articles, your reply and the reply of other members of the forum who probably share some of our idea’s is much appreciated.
Regards from Baghdad  
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/andrewbrown/2009/aug/10/religion-george-bush
http://enduringamerica.com/2009/05/27/george-w-bush-iraq-was-a-biblical-war-against-gog-and-magog/
 

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RE: What are the true reasons for invading Iraq - 2/13/2010 10:46:40 AM   
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When I started my life in the west back in the early 1980s, day after day I was shaken by the degree of hidden hatred of the western person (few exceptions ofcourse ...) against "not just theological islam" but against the very culture and fabrique of islamic life.
At the heart of this hatred - I believe - was a psychology. It was the low feel factor of any western person (masked worry, sadness, shallow human relationships, extremes of economic injustice and lack of purpose) I felt there was indeed a cultural war. (even though I was technically a non-believer and even though most westerners exhibit a high degree of politeness)
The degree of western prejudice was all too clear especially so towards Arabs (being the symbol of Islam perhaps). I also noticed on a daily basis their love affair with state of Israel even though I realised that they(Westerns) don't realy like Jews at all.
During those years, war was raging between "nominally" Iraq and Iran... I then became convinced that this war was just one front of that cultural war. The whole world
was pumping mercilessly cash, weapons,chemicals and rations direct to their warriors coupled with hypocritical diplomatic statements.
When the warriors became strong and then threatened (by words only) to burn half of Israel with nerve gas, the war fronts flipped over into Kuwait and the aftermath campaign of starve and conquer of Iraqi children.
Don't assume that public opinion in the west was against the war. It was only a show.The whole public was excited and looking for that quickie. Everybody was talking about the big kill...I could feel that at work and in the streets. While the media(TV ...etc) were and are the filthiest trumpets of hatred and prejudice. Just listen to BBC or CNN when they talk with an israeli spokesman Vs Lebanese or Gazan spokesman at times of regular Israeli massacres and it tells you all.
Thus, the heart of the problem is cultural hatred and the rest follows...


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RE: What are the true reasons for invading Iraq - 2/18/2010 10:35:25 AM   
 
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Hi guys,

A great question and great responses from Haval.

In addition to Havalkaka's response, I would like to add that one of the reasons of the invasion may also have been the corporations that benefit the White House, the Bush & Blair administrations, and their economies.

Basically, although the US army, British army, and other coalitions were spending a fortune of tax-payers money on their troops, corporations related to arms manufacturers, army contractors like Brown & Root, Bechtel, and Blackwater, were (and still are) making money. The Iraqi & Afghan governments at some point will need to repay back some of this money and award the US and other coalition governments with contracts in the country (i.e. oil, construction, arms, retail...). Most high-ranking government officials have shares in such deals and corporations.
That way, the US/British/Coalition goverments are happy, their armies are happy (well paid, more war = more promotions = ore money), the Iraqi & Afghan newly-installed governments are happy (Iraq is on the top of the coruption list!)... its unfortunate that the US/British tax-payers & most importantly the Iraqi civilians are not benefiting. 

So, there is a corporate benefit as well.   

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