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Harry -> RE: Lets talk evolution! (4/23/2008 2:03:02 PM)
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LOB:
Let us not forget the fact that the one who created the clip is nothing but another monkey, in a state of denial, or he thinks he is a better monkey than those around him. He also appears that he hates the rest of the monkeys for what they are doing through the course of the daily lives. That makes the him nothing but a pathetic chimp who is not seeing himself when he looks in the mirror.
I believe one day, science will finally realize that the far left always meets the far right, and that the universe is far to complex to be created from a “NOTHING” after all, how can something come out of nothingness? As you said, it is the advancement of science that saved Calm’s life. However, let’s dwell for a moment here and think. Is science that gave us humans our brains to think with? Or it came with our creation? Regardless of what you believe in, there must be some sort of a powerful entity at the helm of not just our existence, but also the existence of all that is around us. Things do not move by themselves, some sort of energy has to be involved in the process.
A couple of my friends, one is Indian (from India), the other is actually Persian Shi’a, and they have very similar stories. I have known the Indian a little over four years now, but I met the Persian over twenty years ago. Here is his story.
He was just starting a business as an insurance broker, when suddenly without any previous symptoms; he developed some kind of a rash on the right side of his face and neck. He spent months in hospitals, tons of useless medications, and tens of uncertain diagnosis. One doctor diagnosed his case as shingles, another as Aids. Finally the man fell into a coma, just after all his family and relatives tossed him aside and asked the hospital to pull the plug when they heard about the Aids thing. The evening of the day of his coma, we, his Christian friends decided not to give up on him. That night we gathered in our church, all twenty-five of us, we prayed and cried for over four hours, asking the lord not to take him away. The next day we received a call from the hospital that he is awake. We rushed into his room and saw him on his knees with a bible in front of him praying.
It was an unexpected scene, A Muslim praying with a bible at his sight. We waited until he was done and stood up. We helped him into his bed. It turned out that the night before he dreamt of a man with white clothing put his bloody hand onto his face and told him not to worry; his friend’s prayers will be answered. He said, “this morning is the first day of my life, I have given a second chance, when all my family and relatives have given up on me; my Christian friends pulled me out from a certain grave. Today I accept Jesus Christ as my savior”. Less than a week later the rash started to clear up just as mysteriously it appeared.
My Indian friend’s wife has developed ovarian cancer; every single physician gave her no more than a few months to live. Her husband wasted all his life savings on her health concern. Like the Persian, his Christian friends and neighbors kept praying for her when even her parents abandoned her. We all helped during his monetary difficulty, we never gave up praying for him, her, and the whole family. To keep this story short, the woman has completely recovered, and still alive more than three years after she was given just a few months to live. That family is again a Christian family now.
These two stories are indeed not the rule; they might very well be the exceptions.
Believing in the ability of science should not make anyone drift away from believing in the one superior being in any form.
Calm:
I thank the lord for your recovery, so we had the Privilege of knowing you.
God did not create us for the sole purpose of worshiping. We were created because god was (supposedly lonely), of coarse, not according to the Greek and Roman mythology. All the worshiping that we are doing today is for one reason only (at least in my opinion) that is to keep remembering our creator, (whether you call him god or nature) who gave us life or at least was the cause for our existence. Also thanking that great power with the great abilities which we do not possess, for us having all those great feelings, of happiness, caring, loving, sharing, and most of all just being.
God did not forget us; we are the ones who forgot god, and the reason for us being. That is why we are doing all these horrible things to each other. Some admitted their mistakes, corrected their ways, and moved on, others are still thinking that they are god’s favorite, and decided to eliminate everyone else who have not join their bunch.
I am a believer in creation, nevertheless, I also believe in science and limited evolutionary process. Each has it’s own place in our lives. Believing strongly in God should not make us non-believers in science, and vice versa.
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