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Lion of Babylon -> An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/3/2008 1:23:51 AM)

Well its happened. Old friends Mama Jalal and Ahmad the cockroach met up in Baghdad, exchanged stories in Farisi, and discussed how best to screw up Iraq. They later met up with our clueless PM in order for the cockroach to receive his photo opportunity and spread his Islamic revolutionary ideology. All this right under the Americans noses. If the US and our own puppet government wanted to turn Ahmadcockroach into a hero then couldn't have done a better job. A sad day for Iraq. 
 



An Iranian in the Green Zone
By Hugh Sykes
BBC News, Baghdad  This has been a state visit by motorcade, and mostly behind closed doors. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad travelled from Baghdad airport to the city centre in a black BMW with a heavily armed escort. He was welcomed by Iraqi President Jalal Talabani at his compound near the River Tigris. They stood solemnly side by side as a band played the national anthems of each country, starting with Iran's. The two men then walked along a red carpet, inspecting a guard of honour. The Iranian president shook hands with members of the Iraqi government, and a young girl and boy presented him with flowers.  
Later, at a news conference where his Arabic was translated into Farsi for his guest, President Talabani greeted President Ahmadinejad warmly with a double handshake and a beaming smile. The Iranian president said he was "truly happy" to be visiting an Iraq "without the dictator" Saddam Hussein. He did not acknowledge America's role in his removal.

Standing back
The Americans are keeping their distance from this visit. They accuse Iran of funding and arming Shia militias here. Asked about this and about the visit, US military spokesman Adm Gregory Smith said Washington welcomed positive influence from Iran, but added that Tehran needed to "find ways to turn around" what he termed negative influence in Iraq. Iran says much the same about the US - before he left Tehran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told reporters: "It is the American practice to present others as guilty wherever they are defeated. Is it not funny that those with 160,000 forces in Iraq accuse us of interference?"

The visiting president also saw Prime Minister Nouri Maliki at his offices inside the heavily fortified Green Zone. Entering the Green Zone usually involves passing through American checkpoints, but security on the way into the zone for Mr Ahmadinejad was provided by Kurdish peshmerga forces supplied by the Kurdish Iraqi president. Adm Smith confirmed that "'the primary responsibility" for security during the Iranian president's visit was Iraqi, but he said the coalition would lend "support as required".

Symbolic visit
There has been a lot of symbolism during this visit, and not a lot of substance. But the symbolism is important. Iran wants to be seen to be playing a positive role in Iraq and Mr Ahmadinejad made it clear he believes Iranian and Iraqi stability are mutually dependent. Iran also has ample instability to contend with already - to the east, across the border in Afghanistan. And the Iraqi prime minister told Mr Ahmadinejad that Iran had "helped enormously with security and stability in Iraq".

Iran is also helping Iraq to reduce its chronic shortage of electricity, with new transmission lines to the Iraqi national grid from power stations in Iran. And there is something strange. In an overwhelmingly Arab region, it is non-Arab Iran that is establishing the strongest ties with Iraq. No comparable Arab leader has visited Iraq officially since the fall of Saddam Hussein. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7274149.stm



abujassim -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/3/2008 2:41:49 AM)

helo to u all. this is a very nice forum 4 iraqis and our friends. i think Ahmednejat is like bin Laden so y the usa and iraq alows him 2 make our lands dirty with this visit? bin laden is a terrorist and ahmedinejat is the president of a country which support actions of terrorists in iraq. realy it is a sad day 4 all iraqis who love our country. down with iran and down with all enemys of iraq.



Iraqi100Percent -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/3/2008 9:45:34 AM)

 

Think of it this way friend

the US is protecting the green zone

the iranian president is in the green zone

then the US is protecting the iranian president

I tell you this whole liberation story was nothing more than Iran and the US playing it together even before the invasion. The two countries have been playing together since the 1990's when Chlabi would go visit Tahran and sit in his Pentagon financed compound over there?

The deal is this, you give me oil and control over the oil feilds and reserves and I will put a Shia government from your neck of the woods and you can pretend to have a country, a shia homeland to expand your shia empire.

saddam should have invaded Saudi arabia instead of Kuwait cause the guys who have caused all of this to the Arabs and Iraqis are the kings in Saudi arabia yet those Saudi ****ots keep spreading their poison into Lebanon and the rest of the Arab countries.



Lion of Babylon -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/3/2008 1:45:51 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Iraqi100Percent
the US is protecting the green zone

the iranian president is in the green zone

then the US is protecting the iranian president


Yes, its so obvious and they don't even care to hide their true intentions anymore. Supreme arrogance.



sadiq2006 -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/6/2008 11:56:53 AM)

iraqi100percent

if saddam hussain invaded saudia arabia the muslim world will hate iraq forever, do not forget that. 



sadiq2006 -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/6/2008 12:08:00 PM)

iraqi100percent

do not forget that the iranians will stay idiots in their minds and ideas and by the way the crazy (iran) name came from the aryans how not originally from iran they came from a very far away land, and persia is diffrent from it in everyway from language and culture, do you see the iranians have a fake history and 90% of the iranian people are not persiand and not aryans, did you see the world is all fake crazy history, that is how the persians spread their culture into rest of the land by killing and hatred and fear that is how the call themselves persia and at the same time iran the two names are diffirent meanings and culture, did you see even the iranians are liars even in their history, they do not have any great history like mesopotamia (iraq), that is why they stole the uppor north of iraq what they call it (urmia mountian) and hakarri city that belong to iraq in the past, everyone wants to steal from iraq.  



abujassim -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/8/2008 1:55:15 PM)

this irani nazi think 2 buy iraq for 1bn dolars. he thinks we r so cheap. maliki must say no and usa must say no also. down with irani policy and irani agents in iraq.





Iran offers $1b loan to Iraq
Sat, 01 Mar 2008 02:38:34





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Iran offers Iraq a USD 1b loan for projects to be handled by Iranian firms, two days ahead of the Iranian president's historical visit to Iraq.

"Iran's USD 1b loan to Iraq has been one of the main issues of discussion with the Iraqi side," Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister Alireza Sheikh-Attar said in Baghdad Friday.

The loan will cover basic projects to be executed by Iranian contractors using Iranian goods and equipment, he said.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will make the first trip by an Iranian president since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, a visit analysts say will aim to tell the US that Tehran is an influential player in the neighboring state which cannot be ignored.

Ahmadinejad is due to start the two-day trip to build on business and political ties with Iraq on Sunday.

MRI/HAR



Lion of Babylon -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/10/2008 6:06:41 AM)

So whats the interest on this loan? [image]http://www.aliraqi.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsdown2.gif[/image]



Lion of Babylon -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/10/2008 6:19:10 AM)

Further info re the AGREEMENT! According to reports the loan will cover basic projects to be executed by Iranian contractors using Iranian goods and equipment.
Three other agreements were being discussed, covering avoidance of double taxation, support for joint investment and customs cooperation. Both sides agreed on the Abadan-Basra oil pipeline which includes a plan to build a pipeline from Basra to Abadan refinery that would initially export 100,000 barrels of oil per day. There are also plans for joint companies in cement, car manufacturing, food, textiles, petrochemicals and agriculture. Banks from the two states are also discussing setting up a joint venture bank, between Rafidain Bank, Export Development Bank of Iran and Iran's Bank Tejarat.
This is how we deal with a country that supplies terrorists and weapons and is responsible for the death of thousands of Iraqis. Sick! [image]http://www.aliraqi.org/forums/images/smilies/banghd.gif[/image]



sadiq2006 -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/10/2008 8:57:10 AM)

lion of babylon

you said :(So whats the interest on this loan? [image]http://www.aliraqi.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsdown2.gif[/image])

well the answer is very simple so the iranians basterds can steal more oil from this crazy iraqi government with out noticing it is as that.

god help iraq. 



MarkOfTheBeast -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/12/2008 6:55:11 AM)

Dear All, we have to be balance in our replies, and come short of insults, we have to be diplomatic in all aspects of our lives, Iraqies will rise and shine again but not without standing united in the face of all forgien enimies of Iraq, and I am including every one and everybody, it is not only IRAN, [;)] so keep in mind not to be played with, and driven by propagandas orchestrated by shadowy hands[8|] 



Lion of Babylon -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/13/2008 4:34:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MarkOfTheBeast

Dear All, we have to be balance in our replies, and come short of insults, we have to be diplomatic in all aspects of our lives, Iraqies will rise and shine again but not without standing united in the face of all forgien enimies of Iraq, and I am including every one and everybody, it is not only IRAN, [;)] so keep in mind not to be played with, and driven by propagandas orchestrated by shadowy hands[8|] 


Yes but Ahmadnijad is a special case. Its very difficult for Iraqis to show tolerance for a regime that is responsible for so much bloodshed in our country. I don't think supplying insurgents and Islamists with Iranian made IED's and funding Iranian backed Militias is a smoke screen orchestrated by Western propaganda, do you? I have nothing against Iranians per say but I do hate religious fanatics of all denominations and the government of Iran tops the list as far as I'm concerned.



NeoBabylonian -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/13/2008 8:53:12 PM)

It's funny how that slight **** Admadinejad is trying to expand his sadistic totalitarian Islamist empire - or influence, into Iraq while his own people, the Iranians all hate and dispise him and his government, as they infact are very liberal people.

I'm very glad to see people here know of the significant influence his government has on Maliki's, and from the way they've been acting, in my opinion I have no doubt Ahmadinejad's government is pulling all of Maliki's strings, so ofcourse he'll let them visit.
I understand it seems far-fetched, but I remember when the Americans caught five senior Qods force black-op covert officers. Maliki kicked a massive fuss like the little **** he is to free them, even risking his own credibility and reputation. Monthes later, Blackwater murdered 17 innocent (as in not criminal) civilians. He kicked a bit of a fuss, but after US pressure settled down, and stopped persuing the case like he did with the Qods force guys, were needless to say the US also put pressure on him. Shows that guilty Iranian forces that shouldn't have been there are more important to Maliki than Iraqi innocents and also where Maliki's loyalties lie.

However, the US and Iran are sworn enemies - I am really shocked they just let him visit lying down.
I really don't know, but is it possible that Maliki can turn the pain up on the US, by, say, asking them to leave publicly - as Iraq's democratically elected leader? By the way he's acting, I'm sure a genocide here and there wont force him to use sleeping pills. I know the US is wanting long-term presence, and with all there Iraqi independant and democracy talk, maybe Maliki can turn it against them? I mean what could they do but leave then?

It's interesting to read some of your thoughts on Iran working with the US, but I'm not too sure. The US is still arming and funding anti-Maliki militias in Anbar called 'Iraqi Awakening'. But by the way they reacted to Ahmadinejad's visit, and the media 'smoke-screen' us splattering each other's brains all over the roads provides, it's not too unlikily they're in cahoots like your saying.



MarkOfTheBeast -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/15/2008 2:26:50 AM)

Dear NeoBabylonian,

Thanks for your post, I truly applaud this way of thinking, thank you for looking at this problem form different angles, hope to see more productive posts. Massive respect[8|][8|][8|][8|]
العزة لله والوطن والشعب



NeoBabylonian -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/16/2008 12:43:36 PM)

Lion of Babylon:
I think the author made a few typos bro, this is how it should read. [;)] 
 
"According to reports the loan will cover basic people to be executed by Iranian contractors using Iranian goods and equipment.
Three other agreements were being discussed, covering avoidance of single taxation, support for joint militias and customs' control. One side and it's puppets agreed on the Abadan-Basra oil pipeline which includes a plan to build a pipeline from Basra to Abadan refinery that would initially export 100,000 barrels of oil per day. There are also plans for economic exploitation in cement, car manufacturing, food, textiles, petrochemicals and agriculture. Banks from one state are also dictating setting up a joint venture bank, between Rafidain Bank, Export Development Bank of Iran and Iran's Bank Tejarat."

[:D][:D][:D]



MarkOfTheBeast -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/17/2008 1:05:13 AM)

Iraq a country which was comparable to Spain and Portugal in the 1979, Now we are in the regions of Somalia[:o], Iran is building homes for us, Time Makes Wonders[8|]



sadiq2006 -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/20/2008 9:04:44 PM)

markofthebeast

do not i repeat do not believe in the persians the have always a very black history in their time.



Lion of Babylon -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/22/2008 1:18:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NeoBabylonian

Lion of Babylon:
I think the author made a few typos bro, this is how it should read. [;)] 
 
"According to reports the loan will cover basic people to be executed by Iranian contractors using Iranian goods and equipment.
Three other agreements were being discussed, covering avoidance of single taxation, support for joint militias and customs' control. One side and it's puppets agreed on the Abadan-Basra oil pipeline which includes a plan to build a pipeline from Basra to Abadan refinery that would initially export 100,000 barrels of oil per day. There are also plans for economic exploitation in cement, car manufacturing, food, textiles, petrochemicals and agriculture. Banks from one state are also dictating setting up a joint venture bank, between Rafidain Bank, Export Development Bank of Iran and Iran's Bank Tejarat."

[:D][:D][:D]


Yes, your version is more accurate. [sm=smiley36.gif]



abujassim -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/31/2008 7:18:18 AM)

[sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley4.gif][sm=smiley2.gif][:D]


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MarkOfTheBeast -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/31/2008 12:36:54 PM)

السيد ابو جاسم المحترم
 
السلام عليكم ، اين التعليق على هذه الصور، ودمتم.[:D][:D][:D][8|]



abujassim -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (3/31/2008 1:09:18 PM)

ماكو داعي تعليق  [:D]



Proton -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (4/2/2008 7:52:27 PM)

Babylon,

Being a half-Iranian, I myself agree that Ahmadinejad is a cockroach (I couldnt have coined a better term).  But I think the title of the thread is somewhat insulting, in that it directly correlates the likes of Ahmadinejad with average-Iranian people.

I think a better title is 'Islamist' or 'Khomeiniist cockroach.'



MarkOfTheBeast -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (4/3/2008 10:40:08 AM)

Dear Proton,
 
A Pleasant day, I know that Iranians suffer from Identity crisis, slaves to the west especially to the USA, once an Iranian is in the west, his name will change added the misery of changing religion, feel free to discuss anything about Iran with me, as I hope that your standard is up to date with respect to Iraqi affairs, Freedom is a right granted by the International laws for every human being, provided that that freedom will not jeopardize other people’s feeling or indeed freedom, hence if you are willing and capable of enduring or taking insults by the other people, go on, but you can not generalize this on every one, Right???   And Proton is a rubbish car [:D]



NeoBabylonian -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (4/3/2008 11:23:04 AM)

Hi Proton, and welcome to the forum, hope you'll enjoy your stay mate. Room service, using the swimming pool and the food are charged seprately. [:D] 
Second, I understand where your coming from with Ahmadinejad agenda not representing the normal Iranian people, who are actually the most liberal in the Middle-East, but I think LoB was simply refering to him as 'Iranian' for the simple undeniable fact that his nationality is Iranian, and moreover, he is Iran's President. This is the same as refering to Saddam (who didn't represent the Iraqi people's agenda) as 'Iraqi'. It will equally be "insulting" if it was changed to 'Islamist' as those crazies also don't at all represent the Muslim people.
So I don't really think you should take any offence bro, I'm certain virtually all of us here understand he does not represent the honourable, kind, and very understanding and open-minded Iranian people. [:)] 



Proton -> RE: An Iranian cockroach in the Green Zone (4/3/2008 3:46:21 PM)

Neo,

Thanks for the clarification.  But I personally do think it was insulting when people directly associated 'Iraq' with Saddam or terrorists.

Additionally, I [personally] think it is insulting to degrade people (i.e. Iranians) before an ideology (i.e. Khomeiniism, Islamism, etc.).

Again, thank you for elaborating.



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