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dritalin -> RE: Who rules the USA (12/31/2007 1:32:29 AM)
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[:D] LOL, it was meant as sort of a joke...ie, it's not a video of soldiers 'torturing' iraqis, but actually happy pictures with them. There's like 30 volumes of these.
On a serious note there are bad things that happen.
Here's a link to the movie Redacted, about a squad of US soldier who witness the rape and killing of an Iraqi girl and her family by two of the squads members. It also features a pregnant woman being shot wile speeding through a checkpoint. It's not really acurate at all when it shows the officers trying to 'cover it up,' which isn't the attidude of any of the cadre I know. It does show the bad side of life, some things that can probably happen, in fact, probably have.
http://www.free-tv-video-online.info/internet/movies/(2007)_redacted.html
What this video doesn't show is the other end of the stick.
"A suicide bomber detonated a car crammed with explosives this afternoon targeting a joint checkpoint of the Iraqi army and the Muqdadiya popular committees, killing seven Iraqi soldiers and three popular committees fighters and injuring eight others,"
http://www.aswataliraq.info/look/english/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=4&NrArticle=62374&NrIssue=2&NrSection=1
As far as I can tell, it's the Awakening councils and Iraqi forces that are doing the real damage to Al Qaeda. Whith so many deaths. As bad as dying children is, could you imagine a Baghdad that resembled Kabul 5 years ago? Or 600 years ago when the Mongols invaded?
Things are bad, forgive me if I seem like I'm trying to just sugar coat everything, but their not the worse. 20 million Russian citizens died in WWII. Communist regimes are responisble for the accumulated murder of some 110,000,000 people worldwide. 100,000 died as the result of one firebomb raid over Tokyo by US planes.
Murder, Genocide, and conquest are nothing new to the world. The men that fought with Washington to expell the British suffered winter with no shoes, have you ever stood in the snow without shoes on? In Pennsylvania? 2,500 of them died from exposure and disease, blood from their feet in the snow.
Saddam Hussien defied the world, broke the rules, and endagered his peoples lives. Do we really need to recall the circus show led by Hans Blix that they called 'weapons inspection.' If you have to be mad at somebody, don't be mad at the US for exshausting every form of diplomacy to enforce international law. We didn't invade Kuwait, and we helped out upon request. We watched Saddam thumb his nose at the world, it wasn't just us. It was the enticings of an egotistical dictator who plunged his own country into war, twice. I don't know what you suggest the US should have done to prepare, but I'll be the first the admit we didn't. We did learn, and we are being very careful to help Iraq for the long term. Perhaps you would like us to march in like Soviet forces in Kabul, killing everything that moves? We could, but I speak for myself, and several confidants of mine in the military when I say you would find many more US soldiers disobeying those orders.
I recal a Sgt. I had when I first joined. I was in an RSP battallion, which is made up of people who have not been to basic training yet. He taught us to think for ourselves and that the Army didn't want a bunch of blind obedient lemmings. Hate is a part of war. An Iranian friend of mine, a very open minded liberal and sectarian person, confided in me one day. He said that he had fought in the Iran-Iraq war. He described the way that he developed a deep seeded, clingy and filthy hatred that grew on him for the people that were shooting at him, and he was shooting at. He has since released the hate, but with obvious scars.
Let God be the judge, there is none greater. For us mortals there is no good war. We are justified in our defense, and it is never a happy day. What I want to know is when Iran proliferates, and hands their bomb to Hezbolah, or Hamas will you weep for the children in Isreal as much as you weep for your own.
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