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Lion of Babylon -> I was wondering what happened to this fool! (12/12/2007 12:10:15 AM)

After months of silence it looks like Muqtada is preparing for a new campaign of violence and disruption. Read below:




Iraq's Sadr uses lull to rebuild Army
Moqtada al-Sadr's Shiite militia aims to return leaner, stronger.

By Sam Dagher - Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor

For more than three months, the Mahdi Army has been largely silent. The potent, black-clad Iraqi Shiite force put down its guns in late August at the behest of Moqtada al-Sadr. The move has bolstered improved security in Baghdad, even though the US says some Mahdi Army splinter groups that it calls "criminals" or "extremists" have not heeded Mr. Sadr's freeze. Away from public view, however, Sadr's top aides say the anti-American cleric is anything but idle. Instead, he is orchestrating a revival among his army of loyalists entrenched in Baghdad and Shiite enclaves to the south – from the religious centers of Karbala and Najaf to the economic hub of Basra. What is in the making, they say, is a better-trained and leaner force free of rogue elements accused of atrocities and crimes during the height of the sectarian war last year.

Many analysts say what may reemerge is an Iraqi version of Lebanon's Hizbullah – a state within a state that embraces politics while maintaining a separate military and social structure that holds powerful sway at home and in the region. "He is now in the process of reconstituting the [Mahdi] Army and removing all the bad people that committed mistakes and those that sullied its reputation. There will be a whole new structure and dozens of conditions for membership," says Sheikh Abdul-Hadi al-Mahamadawi, a turbaned cleric who commands Sadr's operation in Karbala. Sheikh Mahamadawi says each fighter would have to be vouched for by fellow fighters in good standing and would have to undergo a series of physical and character tests. "He must have high morals, strong faith, and above all, be obedient."

Sadr is also said to have created a special force called the "golden one" to cleanse the ranks of the Mahdi Army, or Jaish al-Mahdi in Arabic, from unwanted members, according to militia and police sources. One Mahdi Army fighter, who did not wish to be named, says safe houses have been rented in Najaf for senior militiamen from neighboring Diwaniyah, where a joint Iraqi-US crackdown on the militia has been under way for months. He says militiamen are spending their time carrying out good deeds like giving blood and sweeping streets to endear themselves again to the masses. The name of the Mahdi Army has, in many areas, become associated with killings, kidnappings, and extortion. During the freeze, he says, he continues to be in contact with members of his unit but has returned to his day job as a hotel receptionist in Najaf, where he awaits instructions from his commanders. "There is just bound to be another war as long as the occupation remains. Our main enemy is America."

The Mahdi Army's next phase

In recent weeks, Sadrists – many dressed in black and donning white cloaks to symbolize martyrdom – have marched in Baghdad and the south. The largest rally took place in Najaf on Nov. 15, when tens of thousands of militiamen were bused in from all over Iraq to commemorate the ninth anniversary of the killing of Ayatollah Muhammad Sadeq al-Sadr, their spiritual leader and Sadr's father. They paraded through Najaf's Valley of Peace cemetery, which was the scene of some of the worst fighting between the militia and the US in 2004. Celebrants flashed victory signs and shouted anti-American slogans. Those attending received a CD showing footage of purported roadside bombings planted by the militia against US forces and militiamen in training. Mothers of Mahdi Army fighters killed since 2004 wept in a special section of the cemetery reserved for them. Like the Hizbullah cemeteries in Lebanon, hundreds of tombstones were festooned with artificial flowers and billboards praising the heroics of the so-called martyrs. As for Sadr's intent, his spokesman in Najaf, Salah al-Obeidi, says: "We have new visions for what the Mahdi Army will do in the next phase."

Mr. Obeidi explains that most Shiite parties have embraced the political process wholeheartedly and accept the presence of US forces, while the Sadrists, who continue to oppose it, need to keep their Army as a "national resistance force."

In his latest statement last week, Sadr said: "I tell the evil Bush, leave our land, we do not need you or your armies.… I tell the occupiers … you have your democracy and we have our Islam; get out of our land."

And using language that could have been torn right out of the fiery speeches of Hizbullah's leader, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, he urged the Mahdi Army to continue to abide by his freeze order for now. The cleric warned the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki against extending the mandate of US-led multinational forces. He blasted Mr. Maliki's Dawa Party and its allies, the Islamic Supreme Council in Iraq (ISCI) and the Badr Organization, for targeting Sadrists. And he chided Iraqi security forces, many of them beholden to ISCI and Badr, for taking part in those anti-Sadrist operations. The early history of Hizbullah, too, involved bloody internal fighting with a rival Shiite group and training by Iran before it became a skilled guerrilla group. "Iran is definitely interested in having its own proxy political and military force in Iraq, just like Lebanon. Iran may try to wait a bit now to see who will emerge as the more dominant force," says Riad al-Kahwaji, a Dubai-based military expert on Iran. "All the indications so far are that [Iran] has invested a great deal in the Mahdi Army."

But, he adds, "it has been a bumpy start. The Mahdi Army is far from being the organized fighting machine like Hizbullah."

Shiite rivals do battle

The Mahdi Army freeze grew out of fierce battles in late August between ISCI and its affiliate, Badr, both headed by Sadr's archnemesis Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim, in Karbala. In two days of fighting, more than 50 people were killed at the city's shrines during an important pilgrimage. The outside wall of the revered Imam Hussein mausoleum still bears the scars of the fighting. Video footage of the clashes provided by Sadr's aides in Karbala shows black-clad men loyal to the cleric taunting guards, who are largely made up of Badr partisans, and then hurling shoes at them for refusing them entry into the shrine. Later, these guards are seen firing directly at throngs of pilgrims. Mr. Maliki himself came down to Karbala at the time and gave police chief Brig. Gen. Raed Shaker, carte blanche to go after the Mahdi Army. About 500 people were arrested at the time, including several provincial council members loyal to Sadr. General Shaker also declared publicly that the Mahdi Army was responsible for the assassination of at least 400 people in Karbala since 2004. "These are only the bodies that we found," he said in an interview. "This is all documented. I am not doing this for any political agenda."

Umm Bassem says the Mahdi Army killed her son Bassem Hassoun, an Iraqi Army officer. She says they crippled her second son, Haidar.
"It's the fault of Sayyed [honorific] Moqtada; he encouraged them and armed them," says a tearful Umm Bassem, a nickname that means "mother of Bassem," as she clutches a portrait of her late son. Mahamadawi, Sadr's aide in Karbala, says there may have been bad apples in the ranks of the Mahdi Army. "We are not saying they are all angels, they are humans that can make mistakes; we have punished some and kicked out others," he says, adding that there is an intent by the government to sully the image of the Mahdi Army and finish it off. He also accuses the Karbala police of committing unspeakable crimes against the Sadrists including the killing of two children of a wanted militiaman in October and the torture of prisoners.

The assault on Sadr supporters

Anger against the police force, mixed with vows of revenge, reigns among the Daoum tribe in their village fiefdom on the outskirts of Karbala. Sixty-five of their members were among those arrested in the aftermath of the August events. Muhammad Miri, who has been released since, lifts up his shirt to show scars on his back from what he says are from torture with wire cables. He says at least 22 prisoners were also sexually abused by police interrogators. A police officer, who spoke on condition of anonymity, says his claims are true. Widely circulated video footage also shows Hamid Ganoush, a Sadrist provincial council member, blindfolded and on his knees as he is being hit on the head with a shoe by interrogators who press him on the whereabouts of Ali Shria, a Karbala Mahdi Army leader, believed to be in Iran now. The risk now is that these ever-deepening intra-Shiite feuds may also take on a tribal aspect.

A Baghdad-based US Department of Defense intelligence analyst, who tracks the Mahdi Army and who spoke on condition of anonymity, says intra-Shiite feuds in Iraq have always managed to sort themselves out, adding that he believes Sadr will maintain his freeze despite the rhetoric, as his paramount concern is political survival. "It's working well. It's serving Sadr's interest well because it's solidifying his position as the clear leader … and satisfying our desires to eliminate rogue criminal elements," he says. "I am not seeing any evidence that there is [a danger] that this is going to unravel."

Echoing recent remarks by top US military officials, he says that while there has been a decrease in roadside bombs – using Iranian armor-piercing explosively formed penetrators (EFPs) – against US troops, the militia's rogue elements still operate. He blames recent bombings in Baghdad and mortar attacks on the Green Zone on Thanksgiving Day on these rogue elements. He also says a "massive" cache of Iranian-made arms was found in Diwaniyah recently, and on Dec. 1 a dealer of Iranian weapons was arrested in the city of

Nasiriyah in southern Iraq.

"The guy was a major mover of lethal aid in his area," he says. Some of these so-called rogue groups have also been blamed for the kidnapping of five Britons in May from the Finance Ministry in Baghdad. A group calling itself the "The Islamic Shiite Resistance in Iraq" released video footage of one of the hostages on Dec. 4 accompanied with a written statement demanding British troops leave Basra within 10 days. Britain has pulled out from inside the city in September and now has only 4,500 soldiers left at an air base outside the city. The pullout of the bulk of this force is expected soon, leaving the Mahdi Army as the strongest armed group among its rivals in Basra. Top US officials in Iraq have made no secret of their concern over Iranian plans to turn the Mahdi Army into another Hizbullah-like organization, pointing to their capture of a Hizbullah operative in March in Basra.

"His sole purpose in life was to come to Iraq to try to make JAM [Jaish al-Mahdi] a mirror image of Hizbullah," the Defense analyst says.
A senior official in Sadr's rival party, the ISCI, which is very close to the Iranian government, says Mr. Hakim received assurances from Iran at the highest level that they would rein in the hard-line factions within the Islamic Republic who might be supporting Sadr's militia.

"The events in Karbala embarrassed the Iranians," says the official, who requested anonymity, referring to the sanctity of the shrines to Shiite Iran. "There is a nationalist current in Iran, though, that does not want to see stability in Iraq ... this keeps us worried."

The Sadrists have long distanced themselves from Iran publicly and sought to portray themselves more as Arab nationalists. Sadr's spokesman Obeidi says while the movement admires Iranian-backed Hizbullah, the Mahdi Army is different. He says the US military and the Mahdi Army's Shiite rivals are trying hard to force the dismantling of Sadr's militia forming tribal councils across the Shiite south, much like the Americans did in Sunni parts of the country to combat Al Qaeda. But, the spokesman says, this strategy isn't going to work in the south, where many of the tribesmen's sons are Mahdi fighters.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/1211/p01s06-wome.htm




Lion of Babylon -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (12/14/2007 2:03:02 AM)

This is funny. First he's gonna have to learn how to read....aleeef, baa! Then a trip to the dentist might be in order. [image]http://www.aliraqi.org/forums/images/smilies/rofl2.gif[/image]






al-Sadr is studying to attain the title of ayatollah

The leader of Iraq's biggest Shiite militia movement has quietly resumed seminary studies toward attaining the title of ayatollah — a goal that could make firebrand cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and his Mahdi Army an even more formidable power broker in Iraq. Al-Sadr's objectives — described to The Associated Press by close aides — are part of increasingly bitter Shiite-on-Shiite battles for control of Iraq's southern oil fields, the lucrative pilgrim trade to Shiite holy cities and the nation's strategic Persian Gulf outlet.

The endgame among Iraq's majority Shiites also means long-term influence over Iraqi political and financial affairs as the Pentagon and its allies look to scale down their military presence in the coming year. Al-Sadr's backers remain main players in the showdowns across the region, where fears of even more bloodshed are rising following Wednesday's triple car bombing in one of the area's main urban hubs. At least 25 people were killed and scores wounded.

Becoming an ayatollah — one of the highest Shiite clerical positions — would give the 33-year-old al-Sadr an important new voice and aura.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071213/...tollah_al_sadr

[image]http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/MuqAlSadr.jpg[/image]




dritalin -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (12/16/2007 8:37:57 PM)

Hey, LOB, How much support does Sadr have in Iraq. Is he admired by majority Shiits? How many of those would you guess are moderate vs. strong support.

If Sadr does organize an effective military force, how would he use it. Hezbollah has both their political and military arm, and he could map his organization like that, but it seems to me like he's moving on some power play for total domination. I have no clue though. What do you guys think that know more?




Lion of Babylon -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (12/17/2007 6:49:58 AM)

Good question Dustin. Muqtada is a fool, backward son of one of Iraq's most important Mullahs. However he does not enjoy the support of the majority of Shias, only the poor and uneducated. At the end of the war when Baghdad fell his cronies immediately started to recruit young, jobless and poor young men under the pretext of protecting the religious sites and preventing the "Americanization" of Iraq. This was a lie and in truth he recruited thugs and criminals to carry out attacks against any none shias or shias who had the sence not to support him. His main backers were and still are Iran. He then sent his animals to infiltrate the Iraqi police and Army in order to increase his strangle hold on the cities and protect the criminal arm of the Mahdi Army who kidnap and kill innocent Iraqis for money. So there is a paradox here. Muqtada is both the most loved and hated dumbass in the current Iraqi political game. I hate him with a passion and the sooner we are shot of him the better.




Lion of Babylon -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (1/13/2008 2:44:42 AM)

Interesting article on Muqtada Al Mujrim!

ON MUQTADA GOING BACK TO SCHOOL.
 
Last month I briefly commented on reports that Muqtada al-Sadr has returned to his religious studies. This is a potentially significant enough development to merit a bit more. Contrary to reports like this one, Muqtada can't really "study to become an ayatollah," at least not in the way the story frames it. He can study to become a mujtahid, which means he is authorized to practice ijtihad, rational examination of the scriptures (coming from the same root as jihad, or struggle, in the sense that ijtihad is an intellectual struggle, the exertion of scholarly effort) and issue decisions, or fatwas, in response to questions posed by adherents.
 
One achieves the rank of mujtahid through a fairly formalized course of study. To reach the rank of ayatollah, however, requires, in addition, a significant body of published scholarly work, a substantial following who recognize him as a marja al-taqlid ("source of emulation," a guide to correct Islamic practice), and, importantly, recognition and acclaim by other mujtahids, students, and clerics. The title of ayatollah is bestowed on those who have exhibited special insight into scriptures, excellent facility with the Arabic language in its most complex grammar, and superior juristical chops, qualities that Muqtada, by all accounts, does not possess. (Sadly for noted video game enthusiast Muqtada, lighting up the scoreboard in FIFA 06 is not presently one of the categories in which aspirants to the rank of ayatollah are judged, but times do change ...) Even if he is recognized as a mujtahid (as is probable, given that, as Juan Cole notes, many of his instructors were followers of Sadr's father, and also: Do you really want to fail a dude who has his own militia?) I think it's rather unlikely that he will be recognized as an ayatollah, and certainly not any time soon.
 
But what's really interesting and significant about Sadr is how little this matters. Because of the political power he currently holds in Iraq, and the size and depth of commitment of his movement, Sadr already wields influence to rival an ayatollah's. Up until now, he's had to rely on the fatwas of senior clerics for his formal religious legitimacy. Once he achieves the rank of marja, and is able to issue his own fatwas rather than relying on the credentials of sometimes uncooperative allies, his political power will more than suffice for the influence that would come were he recognized as an ayatollah. It remains to be seen how overt a role he intends to play in Iraqi politics, but there's no doubt it will continue to be a substantial one. Sadr has given conflicting answers about his support for Ayatollah Khomeini's theory of velayat e-faqih, ("rule of the jurist") which, despite being the basis for the Iranian government, is still considered a marginal theory, if not outright heretical innovation, by the majority of the world's Shia scholars. It's more likely that he'll try to establish a system of government in line with the theories of clerical activism developed by his revered uncle, in which there is religious leadership but not outright rule. In addition to having more scholarly acceptance than Khomeinism, these ideas also have the benefit of being Iraqi-grown.
 
http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=01&year=2008&base_name=on_muqtada_going_back_to_schoo




Calm -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (1/13/2008 6:32:04 PM)

The two go together
hand in hand
 
 
هَـذا رئـيـسُ الـوُزَرَا ................ بـذيـلِـهِ تَـعَـثـرَا
مُـسَـيِّسَـاً حَـديـثـهُ ............ مُـفـلـسِـفـاً مُـنَـظـرَا
وَلـيـسَ يـدري أنـهُ ........... بالحُـكْـم ِقدْ (تَـقـشَّـمَـرَا)
إنْ قِـيلَ : (دولة ُالرئيس ِ)!!! يـزدهـي تَـبَـخـتُـرَا
نـعـذرُهُ وَمِـثـلـهُ .................. لا بُـدَّ مـن انْ يُـعـذرَا
كـانَ نِـعَـالاً أجْـرَبَـاً ................ وَفَـجْـأة ً(تَـقـنَّـدَرَا)

حُـكـومـة ٌبإِسْـتِـهَـا .............. خازوقـهـا تَـخَـمـرا
مـن جَـوْقـةِ الحَـمـيـر ِللبغال ِ يَـسْـعَـدُ الـوَرَى
وَكـلُ مَـنْ يَـرأسُـهـا ................ أمَـامَـنَـا (تَـخَـصَّـرَا)
وَهْـوَ الذي بـكـلِّ مَـا ................. يـقـولُـهُ مُـثـرِّثـرَا
إذا أرادَ ضَـ...طـة ًيسْـتأذِنُ المُـسْـتَـعـمِـرَا

يَـا دَوْلـة َالرئـيـس ِ لا ................. تَـظـنَّ أنْ تُـعَـمِّـرَا
ألـفُ نِـعَـال ٍحَـاضِـر ٍ ................ وَمِـثـلـهُ تَـحَـضَّـرَا
فـلـمِّـع ِالقفا لِـمَـنْ ................ عَـنْ سَاعِـدَيِّـهِ شَـمَّـرَا
(سَيَسْمطـونَ) وَالـِدَيـكَ (سَـمْـطـة ً) لـنْ تُـنـكَـرَا

يَـا دَوْلـة َالرئـيـس ِلا ................. تـغـرَّنـا تَـمَـظـهُـرَا
فلمْ نُـصَادَفْ نَـعْـجَـة ً.............. غَـنَّـتْ وَتَـيـسَـاً زَمَّـرَا
مُنذ ُاسْـتَـبحْتُـمْ مَوطـني ................ وَدَلّ َكـسْـرَى قَـيـصَـرَا
لـمْ نـنـدَهـشْ لأنَّـهُ ................. مـن أهـلـهِ تَـحَـرَّرَا

يَـا دَوْلَـة َالرئـيـس ِمَـنْ ................. لـذتَ بـهِ تَـقَـهْـقَـرَا
قـدْ صِـرتَ فيها هِـرْقـلاً ................ وصِـرتَ فـيـها عَـنتـرَا
فـابـلعْ مـخَـاط َ مِـنخـريِّـكَ نَـاحِـبـاً لِـتـسـكـرَا
أنـتَ الحِـمَـارُ طـوَّروهُ ................ قـيـلَ قـدْ تـطـوَّرَا
وَانـتـظـرُوا نـتـائـجَ التـطـويـر ِذاكَ أشـهـرَا
كـلّ الذي قـامَ بـهِ الحِـمَـارُ....... قـدْ (تَـحَـيِّـمَـرا)

يَـا دولة َالرئـيـس ِ يـَا ................. بَـاعَ العِـرَاق ِالأقـصَـرَا !
مِـنـطـقـة ٌخَـضْـرَا فـلا ................ مـنـها تـرَى وَلا تـرَى
لـفـرطِ ما عِـشـتَ بـها ................ وَنِـمْـتَ.. صِـرتَ أخـضرَا
أنـتَ غـبَـاءٌ نـادرٌ ....... ......... قـدْ صـنـفـوهُ الأنـدَرَا
يَـا(فـلـتـةَ) العصر ِالذي ................ لِـعُـهْـرهِ لـنْ يُـذكـرَا
خـضـراؤكَ التـي بـهـا .............. مُـشـمـرَاً مُـزمِّـجِـرَا
مـنهـا ستمضي أغـبَـراً ................ كـمـا أتـيـتَ أغـبـرَا

هَـذا رئـيـسُ الـوُزرَا ................. قـدْ جَـاءَكـمْ مُـبَـشِّـرا
لـديِّـهِ ألـفُ خـطـةٍ ................. لـلأمْـن ِحـيـثـما سَـرَى
وَزَّعَـهَـا قَـنَـانـيَـاً ................. عـلى جـمـيـع ِالخـبَـرَا
وَقـالَ قـدْ أسـمـيـتُـهـا ................. (دِيـتـولَـنَـا) المُـطـهِّـرَا
مِـلـعَـقـة ٌعـنـدَ المَـسَـا ................ فـقـط ْ وَلـيـسَـتْ أكـثـرَا
تـبـريءُ كـلَّ أحْـوَل ٍ ................ بـكـمْ وتُـشـفـي الأعـوَرَا

يَـا دَولـة َالرئـيـس ِعِـشْ (مُـصَخَّـمَـاً، مُـجَـيَّـرَا)
ألنـاسُ تـمـشـي لـلأمَـام ِأنـتَ تـمـشـي للـوَرَا
قـدْ بَـالَ فـوقَ رأسِـكَ الشـعـبُ الذي لنْ يُـقـهَـرَا
فـلـنْ يـفـيـدَ (قـنْـبـرٌ) ................. إذا نَـدَبَّـتَ (قـنْـبَـرَا)
دَعْـه فـ (قـنـبـرٌ) إذا ................. غـيـظ ُالعِـرَاق ِأمْـطـرَا
وَصَـاحَ صَـائـِحُ الرَدَى ................. عَـنْ خِـصْـ... ـيِّـهِ (دَوَّرَا)

يَا دَوْلـة َالرئـيـس ِهـلْ ................. تَـسْـألـني : مَـاذا جَـرَى؟
أضـحـكـتـنـي...!!! فـجـوقـة ُالـقـرودِ صَـاروا وُزرَا
كـلٌ يَـخَـافُ ظـلـهُ ................ يَـعْـبـرُ حـتـى يَـعْـبـرَا
في يـدِهِ (لِـحَـافـهُ) ................. يـمـشـي بـهِ مُـدثـرَا
لَـهُ وُزَارَة ٌفـإنْ ................ يُـسْـألُ عـنها اسْـتَـفـسَـرَا
يـَحْـضـرُ كـلَّ لـيـلـةٍ ................. كـأنـهُ لـنْ يـحْـضـرَا
وُزَارَة ٌمـن فـرط ِ مـا ................ يَـسـرقـُهـا (تَـزَوْهـرَا)
عَـشْـرُ شَـهَـاداتٍ لـهُ بـهـنَّ قـدْ تَـبَـخّـتَـرَا
أخـتـامُـهُ فـي جَـيْـبـهِ مـتـى أرادَ زَوَّرَا
وَبـعْـدَ نَـبْـش ِجَـدِّ جـدِّ جَـدِّهِ قـدْ ظـَهـرَا
قـدْ كـانَ رَادُودَاً وَجَـاءَ............ بـعـدَهـا تَـوزَّرَا

يَـا دَولـة َالرئـيـس ِلا ................ تَـحْـزَنْ لِـبَـطـش ِالشُـعَـرَا
قـيـلَ (الحـكـيـمُ) صَـافِـنٌ مِـزَاجُـهُ تَـعَـكـرَا
وَإنَّـهُ مـن فـرطِ مَـا يَـصْـفـنُ قـدْ عَـافَ الكَـر َى
مُـحَـدِّثِـاً مِـرآتَـهُ ................ تـلَّ تَـعَـاويـذٍ قَـرَا
مِـرآتَـنَـا، مِـرآتَـنَـا ................. مُـتَـأتِـئَـاً... مُـتَـرْتِـرَا
(أمُـقـتـدى) أجْـمَـلُ مِـنّـي أمْ أنَـا !!!!!! وَكَـرَّرَا
تَـثـائَـبَـتْ بـوجـهـهِ ................. وَلـمْ تَـشَـأ ْ أنْ تَـنـظـرَا
قـالـتْ وَهَـزَّتْ رأسَـهـا ................. ألبَـولُ يُـشْـبـهُ الخَـرَا

أأنـتُـمُ حُـكـامُ هَـذي الأرض ِ.. أيّ ُطـرْطـرَا
أنـتـمْ نِـفايـاتُ المَـرَاحِـيـض ِالـتي لـنْ تُـسْـتَرَا
حـتـى إذا قـبـرتُـمُ ................. مـنـكـمْ سَـيـهـربُ الثـرى
هـذا إذا وَجَـدتُـمُ ................. قـبـراً لـكـمْ وَمَـحْـشَـرَا
قـذارَة ٌقـدْ أفـزَعَـتْ ................. نـكـيـرَكـمْ وَالمُـنـكـرَا
أذكـرُ مَـنْ؟ (صُولاغـَكمْ) وأنـسـى مَـنْ ؟ (أ ُشَـيـقـرَا)
أمْ أزدري (عـمّـارَكـمْ) ................. ذاكَ الـكـحـيـلَ الأحْـوَرَا
(كـتـكوتَـكـُمْ) إذا صَحَـا ................. مِـن نـومِـهِ تَـحَـمَّـرَا
هـذي الـلحـى عَـقَـاربٌ ................. تـسـيـلُ سُـمَّـاً أصـفـرَا
وَتَـحْـتَ كُـلِّ شَـعْـرَةٍ ................. شَـيْـطانُ سُـوْءٍ عَـسْكَرَا

يَـا دَولـة َالرئـيـس ِمَـنْ ................. بَـاعَ العِـرَاقَ وَاشـتـرَى
وَمَـنْ بـأنـهَـار ِالـدم ِالقـانـي مَـشـى مُـسـتَـهْـتِـرَا
جـئـتُـمْ بـكـلِّ ظـلـمَـةٍ ................. مَـضَـتْ وَلـيـل ٍأدبَـرَا
أنـتُـمْ أدلّاءَ الـذي ................. دَاسَ الثـرَى واسْتَـعْـمَرَا

قـبَّـلـتُـمُ بسـطـالَـهُ ................. جَـعَـلـتُـمُـوهُ مِـنـبَـرَا
وُجُـوهُـكُـمْ تـعـفـرتْ ................. بـهِ بـمـا تـعـفـرَا
قـدتُـمْ إلـى سَـريـرهِ الـدَّامـي البَـنَـاتَ القـُصَّـرَا
تُـبـرِّرونَ عُـريَـهُ ................. وَالـعُـريُ لـنْ يُـبَـرَّرَا
وَيـحَ العَـمَـائِـم التي ................. صَـارتْ عَـلـيـهِ مِـئـزرَا
مُـنَـافِـقـونَ رَبّـكُـمْ ................. دِيْـنَـارُكُـمْ حَـيْـثُ انـبـرَى
لـكُـمْ يَـدَان ِمِـنـهُـمـا ................ دَمُ (الـحُـسَـيـن ِ) قـطـرَا
وَاحِـدَة ٌ تـلـطـمُ وَالأخـرَى تـسـلّ ُالخِـنـجَـرَا
وَاللهِ لـوْ أنَّ (الـحُـسَـيـنَ) جَـاءَكـمْ مُـعَـفـرَا
وَصَـاحَ : (هَـلْ مـن نـاصِـر ٍ) ثـانـيـة ً.. لنْ يُـنصَـرَا
سَـتَـقـتـلـونـهُ كـمـا ................. قـتـلـتـمُـوهُ نُـكّـرَا
وَتَـرقـصُـونَ فـوقـهُ ................. مَـيْـتـاً... كِـلابـاً سُـعَّـرَا
(مـنـصـورة ٌشـيـعـتُـنـا مـنـصـورة ٌيـا حَـيـدَرَا)!!
جَـمـيـعـكُـمْ (شِـمْـرٌ) وإنْ جَـبـيـنُـكُـمْ تَـطـبـرَا
تُـففففٍ عَـلـيـكمْ إنـنـي ................. أتـفِـلـُهَـا مُـسْـتَـكْـثِـرَا

أمَّـا (ضـخـامـة ُ) الـرئـيـس ِ جـاهـلٌ تَـعَـبـقـرَا
يَـحـكُ أ ُذنـيـهِ إذا ................. أرادَ حَـكَّ المِـنـخَـرَا
يُـحِـبّ ُجـدَّاً كـرشَـهُ ................. يـخـلـو بـهِ لِـيَـشـبـرَا
يُـقـطـبُ الحَـاجـبَ كـي يـبـدو لـنـا مُـسَـيِّـطـرا
يـهـزّ ُذيـلـهُ إذا .............. أوْمَـاتْ إلـيـهِ (كـونـدرا)
بـخِـ..تـيـِّهِ عَـاثِـرٌ ................. فـإنْ مَـشـى تـكـوَّرَا

ضـخـامـة َالرئيسِ يـا ................. زرزورَنـا المـُسـتَـنسِـرَا
إسْـتـكَ فـرط َ رَكْـلِـهِ ................. قـدْ صَـارَ إسْـتَـاً أحْـمَـرَا
فـخـذ ْنِـعَـاجَـاً أربَـعـاً ................. وَاسكـنْ أقـاصِـيَّ القـرَى
تـلـهـو بهـا مُـمَـشِّـطِـاً ................. شَـعْـرَاتِـهَـا مُـبَـعـثِـرَا
مَـرضـتَ مُـذ ْصِرتَ الرئـيـسَ الصَـاغِـرَ المُـسْـتَـأجَـرَا
في كـلِّ يـوم ٍنـفـخـة ٌ ................. لـسْـتَ بـهَـا مُـخَـيَّـرَا
يـومـاً يـقـولُ قـائِـلٌ ................. رئـيـسُـكُـمْ تـفـجَّـرَا

لا يـأخـذنـَّكـمْ هَـوىً ................. فـالأرضُ لـنْ تُـسْـتَـأجَرَا
وَلـنْ يَـطـولَ لـيـلُـهَـا ................. مَـهْـمَـا الضِـيَـا تـأخّـرَا
فإنْ تـكـنْ صَـابـرة ً ................. فـفي غـدٍ لـنْ تـصـبرَا
وتـفـخـرونَ بـالخـنـى ................. وبـالخـنـى لـنْ يـفـخـرَا
والحـقّ ُصـارَ بـاطِـلا ً ................. والـفـأرُ صَـارَ قِـسـورَا
والشعـبُ : هـذا مَـيّـتٌ ................. وذاكَ قـدْ تَـهَـجَّـرا
هـذا زمـانُ العُـهْـر ِلـمْ ................. نـعـجـبْ إذا تـعـهَّـرا
تـنـامُ فِـئـرانُ الدجى ................. مَـكـانَ آسَـادِ الشـرَى

فانـتـظـروا الشـعْـبَ الـذي لا بُـدَّ مـن أنْ يَـثـأرَا
هـذا الـدمُ الـذي يـسـيـلُ فـي التـرابِ أنـهُـرَا
سَـوفَ يـكـونُ مَـارداً بـغـيـ ظـهِ مُـسَـوَّرَا
مِـنَ الشـمَـال ِلـلـجَـنـوبِ قـيّـدُهُ تـكـسَّـرَا
وَعِـنـدَهَـا سَـتُـكـنـسـونَ أقـذرَاً فـأقـذرَا




Lion of Babylon -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (1/14/2008 2:49:12 AM)

You said it bro!




sadiq2006 -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (1/26/2008 3:55:04 PM)

lion of babylon

do not waste your mind on that crazy clown monkey stupid al sader guy, maybe he is in iran dancing and drinking wiskey and having sex, and maybe the iranians are teaching him how to become a prophet hahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.[sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif]




Lion of Babylon -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (2/8/2008 2:56:59 AM)

Unforunately, without decent Iraqi security forces, desperate people will seek out these barbaric militias to “protect” them, especially if those barbarians are armed and willing to retaliate. In many areas of Baghdad Jihoosh Al Mehdi is comprised of teenagers and ex-cons loosely affiliated with the local Sadr office carrying guns under Muqtada's banner.
Read below:
 
Shia call on Mehdi Army to take up arms again in Iraq
By Patrick Cockburn

Baghdad, 07 February 2008 (The Independent)

In the alleys of the ancient district of al-Salaikh in Baghdad, a Shia family fought a fierce gun battle with Sunni militiamen who tried to stop them reoccupying their house from which they had been forced to flee months earlier. The Shia family got the worst of the fighting and, after suffering seven dead, sent a desperate message asking for help to the Mehdi Army, the powerful Shia militia of the Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr that once would have rushed to defend them. On this occasion, however, the local Mehdi Army commander turned them down, saying: "We can do nothing because we are under orders not to break the ceasefire."

It is this six-month ceasefire, declared on 29 August last year by Mr Sadr, which American commanders say is responsible for cutting much of the violence in Iraq. But the ceasefire will expire in the next few weeks and political and military leaders loyal to Mr Sadr are advising him not to renew it. They complain that state security organs, in effect controlled by their Shia rivals in the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq (ISCI), are using the truce to attack them, particularly in and around the southern city of Diwaniya from which 300 Sadrist families have been expelled. The Sadrists also complain that US troops and the Iraqi army are targeting Mehdi Army leaders and al-Qa'ida has once again started bombing Shia civilians as they did last Friday when two bird markets in Shia districts were attacked, killing 99 people. Salah al-Ubaidi, the spokesman for Mr Sadr, said a committee of Sadrist legislators said: "They don't want the ceasefire to remain. They want it lifted because of oppressive acts by security forces in Diwaniya".

Mohammed, the head of a Sadrist district office in Baghdad, said that in Diwaniya the security forces "have started arresting the wives and daughters of our men who have fled. There is low morale there as we do not help them because of the ceasefire".

The Sadrist movement is the only real mass movement in Iraq and is the voice of the poor Shia, who make up much of the Iraqi population. It was created by Mr Sadr's revered father, Mohammed Sadiq al-Sadr – assassinated with two of his sons on the orders of Saddam Hussein in 1999 – and revived by Muqtada in 2003. Mr Sadr surprised his followers by calling a total ceasefire in August last year after clashes with ISCI-backed security forces in Kerbala. He said he wanted to purge his movement of criminal gangs and anti-Sunni death squads. "Muqtada wanted the Mehdi Army to have a good reputation," said Mohammed. "We vet people now in a way we didn't before. Police come to us and say, 'this criminal says he works for you' and sometimes we say 'yes' and sometimes 'no'."

The Sadrist ability to enforce the ceasefire is impressive given the movement's previous reputation for being so decentralised that it was out of control. "Sadr's followers are strong, patient and stick to their work," said Mohammed. "But we are militarily weak because of the freeze on action."

This claim of weakness is a little exaggerated. The Sadrists probably still control about half of Baghdad and 80 per cent of Shia areas. Often they can get what they want because nobody wants them as an enemy. When 12 Mehdi Army men with weapons, and without papers giving them the right to carry them, were arrested by Interior Ministry officials in Palestine Street, the local Sadrist leader Sheikh Abbas Rubaie called the ministry and said: "Release them by six or you know what we will do." Minutes later they were back on the streets. Nobody knows what Mr Sadr will decide. One Sadrist said: "Even people close to Muqtada do not know what is happening in his mind." Safar, with close links to the Mehdi Army, said its leaders "informed the marji'iyyah [the senior Shia clerics] to tell [the Prime Minister] Nouri al-Maliki that if his government does not stop arresting their leaders they will end the ceasefire".

One person who believes the truce will continue is the Iraqi politician Ahmad Chalabi, who has always had good relations with Mr Sadr. He said: "Muqtada and the Sadrists have benefited from the ceasefire. Despite what people say, it has done them good because it makes them look reasonable – something they badly needed."

Though they have closed their military offices, the Sadrists have a dense network of social and cultural activities and often provide the only assistance for poor families. Their help wins them strong support because a recent report by aid agencies said 43 per cent of Iraqis live in "absolute poverty".

The Iraqi government claimed at the end of last year that many of the 2.2 million Iraqis who have fled abroad are returning because of improved security. But a report by the UN High Commission for Refugees says that, on Iraq's border with Syria, where 1.5 million Iraqis live, only 700 Iraqis travel to Iraq every day and 1,200 go to Syria.

http://www.iraqupdates.com/p_articles.php/article/27062




sadiq2006 -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (2/8/2008 7:16:04 AM)

lion of babylon

i hope the shia in iraq will know in the end that they are fooled by that crazy al sadar guy from the iranian culture, and wake up and kick him out from iraq in the near future i hope, because what i saw in the newspapers i saw a picture a young iraqi children are trained to fight and kill, not to be educated in schools.

i feel really sorry for the children that they missused by their young minds and believe what they doing, they are teaching these children to be against their own people how ironic that can be, i wish for al sadar guy to be dead or ran on to the crazy iran.




Harry -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (2/8/2008 9:34:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sadiq2006

lion of babylon

i hope the shia in iraq will know in the end that they are fooled by that crazy al sadar guy from the iranian culture, and wake up and kick him out from iraq in the near future i hope, because what i saw in the newspapers i saw a picture a young iraqi children are trained to fight and kill, not to be educated in schools.

i feel really sorry for the children that they missused by their young minds and believe what they doing, they are teaching these children to be against their own people how ironic that can be, i wish for al sadar guy to be dead or ran on to the crazy iran.



That is the Mesopotamian culture and civilization you are embracing.




sadiq2006 -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (2/10/2008 11:41:39 AM)

harry

i think you need to read what i typed very well in the post before you, that not is not mesopotamian culture you are reading in an opposite way. 




Harry -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (2/11/2008 10:39:32 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sadiq2006

harry

i think you need to read what i typed very well in the post before you, that not is not mesopotamian culture you are reading in an opposite way. 


Now even your sentences are incomplete and incoherent.[:'(]
 
I suggest you start attending preschool classes; you night learn a thing or two.[sm=rolleyes.gif]




Lion of Babylon -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (3/1/2008 6:05:51 AM)

Sheik Hasnawi says Sadr is now studying and meditating in Iran. I think he means he's locked away in a room playing grand theft auto on his playstation. His love of console games is well documented and he used to be referred to as Muqtada Atari by his contemporaries.

Unlike Hasnawi I believe the death of people like Muqtada will rid Iraq of one of it biggest embarrassments. Masha Allah he is now studying to be an Ayatollah no less. His Iranian masters will have to be patient because Muqtada will have to learn his Aleef - Baa before moving onto actual grown up sentences. This is the man who once said that football was sent to Iraq by the West to corrupt our youth. [image]http://www.aliraqi.org/forums/images/smilies/coco.gif[/image] If you haven't seen it already, heres the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoE1O-9O3jU




Leading Sadrist: Iraq to ‘swim in lake of blood’ if Sadr killed

A leading figure in the movement led by Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr said the group would not pardon anyone if their leader is harmed.

“In the event Sadr is harmed, Iraqi will them swim in a lake of blood,” warned Sheikh Sadeq al-Hasnawi.

Hasnawi is one of the top officials leading the movement in Sadr’s absence. He said the cleric was currently in Iran “studying and mediating” in the religious city of Qom which is the Iranian equivalent of Iraq’s holy city of Najaf where Shiite clerics are educated and trained. Hasnawi made the remarks in response to unconfirmed reports that Sadr was poisoned and was being hospitalized in Tehran.

“These reports that Moqtada al-Sadr has been poisoned are merely rumors spread by those who would like to see him disappear from the arena by having him assassinated,” said Hasnawi. Despite his close connection with the political and clerical establishment in Tehran, Sadr is projecting himself and his movement as an Arab nationalist group bent on the unification of the country, rejection of occupation and refusal of attempts to divide Iraq into federal states.

These positions have won him wide support among Iraqi nationals, particularly Arabs whether Sunni or Shiites. Hasnawi said Sadr’s popularity was at an all time high in the country and that clerics higher than him in rank and age follow his line as well as tribal leaders particularly in central Iraq.

“Moqtada al-Sadr is in Qom to study and worship and pray. He is in seclusion right now, but this does not mean he will never return,” he said.

The presence in Qom is said to prepare the cleric for the rank of Ayatollah which will enable him to poise himself as a reference for Islamic jurisdiction among Shiites. Hasnawi said despite his absence, Sadr was in contact with his followers in Iraq and his policies and attitudes are announced through spokespersons.

http://www.azzaman.com/english/index...02-27\kurd.htm




MarkOfTheBeast -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (3/12/2008 7:22:29 AM)

IYAD ALLAWI HAS GAINED 65 Lbs SINCE ARRIVING TO BAGHDAD.Fox News




Lion of Babylon -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (3/13/2008 4:07:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MarkOfTheBeast

IYAD ALLAWI HAS GAINED 65 Lbs SINCE ARRIVING TO BAGHDAD.Fox News


OMG, stop the press! [:D]




sadiq2006 -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (3/14/2008 8:06:28 AM)

markofthebeast

what did you mean about :(IYAD ALLAWI HAS GAINED 65 Lbs SINCE ARRIVING TO BAGHDAD.Fox News )

can you tell what does that means, please ?




MarkOfTheBeast -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (3/14/2008 9:44:23 AM)

Dear Sadiq,

Thanks, what I meant truly is after leaving England and the english DEECH, now he is eating HABOOR, a new home in Surry and New every thing[:D] so you have to understand what I mean, please do understand that it is not only his problem, all politicians are becomming fatter and fatter by the day, a the poor Iraqis have to shorten their belts.[:D] thats truly was what I meant[8|]




sadiq2006 -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (3/20/2008 9:23:35 PM)

markofthebeast

that is why the iraqi politicains and the presidents from 1921 untill 2008 now are always dumb and stupid because of their belly stomuch and do not care about iraq and its people, only caring for their crazy stomuchs.




Lion of Babylon -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (3/22/2008 12:34:05 PM)

Interesting! Did anyone manage to catch the original interview? I tried googling but no success.

Whatever Happened to Moqtada?
By DAN SENOR and ROMAN MARTINEZ
March 20, 2008; Page A19
 
"I have failed to liberate Iraq, and transform its society into an Islamic society."
Moqtada al-Sadr, Asharq Al Awsat newspaper, March 8, 2008
 
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120596796160950147.html?mod=rss_opinion_main




MarkOfTheBeast -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (3/25/2008 12:16:02 PM)

Dear Lion Of Babylon,
 A pleasant day to you my dear friend, can you imagine , there will be no ARAK and BEER when we become an Islamic state…..  [:o][:o][:o][:o][:D][:D]




MarkOfTheBeast -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (3/25/2008 12:18:43 PM)

Dear Sadiq,
 
A pleasant day to you my dear friend did you read Paul Breamar Book??…..  [:D][:D][:D] read it and you will finad that food is a very serious issue with Iraqi Politicians[:D]




abujassim -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (3/31/2008 6:05:03 AM)

do u remember this man? i wonder what happen 2 him and my frend send this to me. what do u think about him now?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/video/page/0,,2037829,00.html




abujassim -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (4/2/2008 3:06:24 PM)

Interview with Muqtada
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPUfv...eature=related




abujassim -> RE: I was wondering what happened to this fool! (4/5/2008 3:28:31 PM)

pls read this report and help me understand what is happening in my country.

quote:


Al-Sadr orders 1 million march in Baghdad instead of Najaf-MP Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Saturday , 05 /04 /2008 Time 2:51:20

Baghdad, April4, (VOI)-A Sadrist lawmaker on Friday said the Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr ordered to stage one million-strong March in Baghdad instead of Najaf.

"People attending Friday prayers were informed the march would be in Baghdad, not the holy Shi'ite city of Najaf as announced on Thursday." A Sadrist MP Salih al-Ugaili told Aswat al-Iraq-Voices of Iraq(VOI) .

* Sadr has called for 1 million Iraqis to march against what he calls the U.S. occupation of Iraq next week on the fifth anniversary of the fall of Baghdad. The government says it will not try to block next week's march as long as it is peaceful. The Iraqi PM Nouri al-Maliki ordered a crackdown on militia in the southern city of Basra last week, an hour after clashes and heavy fighting erupted with Al-Sadr Mahdi milita in Basra engulfing Baghdad and mjaor southern provinces. U.S. and British forces had to launch air and artillery strikes to support Iraqi troops

The MP said hundreds of Sadr followers "staged sit-ins in the capital's Sadr City neighborhood, Sadr stronghold' which remain sealed off after last week's fighting.

"The sit-in ceremonies would last till further notice", he added, "the candles would be lit to call for ceasing imposing sieges on cities peacefully ".

Abu Jaafar, the official in charge of Sadr's office in Abu Dsheir, told VOI Sadr's office pitched a camp for a peaceful sit-in in Abu Dsheir upon orders from Sayyed Muqtada al-Sadr on Thursday to break the political stalemate and have the items of an agreement implemented," Aswat al-Iraq – Voices of Iraq – (VOI) by telephone. Abu Jaafar was referring to a parliamentary committee set up to find facts about the armed clashes that erupted in southern Iraq last week. ** Earlier on Friday Iraqi Prime Minister ordered an end to arrest raids in all areas to give a chance to gunmen to lay down their arms hours before the Sadrists go on a sit-in after the Friday prayers, according to an Iraqi cabinet statement.

*** "Maliki instructed to stop detention raids and give a chance to repentant gunmen to lay down their arms in all Iraqi areas," read the statement received by VOI.

"The premier also ordered to have the families that left their residential areas in all provinces due to acts of violence back home and **** grant financial assistance to the families of martyrs and the wounded in military operations."

The government's statement came after a media source in Sadr's office said "a peaceful sit-in would be staged on Friday to demand cessation of random detentions and escalations against the Sadrists."

http://66.111.34.180/look/english/ar...=2&NrSection=1


* ok this is good they only want 2 do a peaceful demonstration.

** if they r gunman then they are criminal?? why give them this chance?

*** this mean the militia will hide the weapons and use them again. what is this maliki an idiot? or may be he is part of al sadr group?

**** now he want 2 pay them. wat families of martyrs maliki want 2 pay? the martyr from the iraqi army or the martyr from jam? i do not blame him 4 being confused. in the IA there are many of them who r loyal 2 jam.

pls mr maliki. do not try to play politics bcause u do not know how. just try 2 b honest 4 a change.




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