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Lion of Babylon -> Some good news at long last! (11/4/2007 1:16:22 AM)

I spoke to my family in Baghdad last night for the first time in a month and they told me things were much better now. Electricity is getting better (some days they get 12 hrs a day rather than the normal 2 hrs) and the security situation on the streets is also improving greatly. I then started looking up reports on the Internet and found this one which was published on yahoo news. Have any of you spoken to family in Iraq about the situation on the ground recently? Please let us know. 

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BAGHDAD - In a dramatic turnaround, more than 3,000 Iraqi families driven out of their Baghdad neighborhoods have returned to their homes in the past three months as sectarian violence has dropped, the government said Saturday. Saad al-Azawi, his wife and four children are among them. They fled to Syria six months ago, leaving behind what had become one of the capital's more dangerous districts — west Baghdad's largely Sunni Khadra region.

The family had been living inside a vicious and bloody turf battle between al-Qaida in Iraq and Mahdi Army militiamen. But Azawi said things began changing, becoming more peaceful, in August when radical anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr ordered his Mahdi Army fighters to stand down nationwide.

About the same time, the Khadra neighborhood Awakening Council rose up against brutal al-Qaida control — the imposition of its austere interpretation of Islam, along with the murder and torture of those who would not comply.

The uprising originated in Iraq's west and flowed into the capital. Earlier this year, the Sunni tribes and clans in the vast Anbar province began their own revolt and have successfully rid the largely desert region of al-Qaida control. At one point the terrorist group virtually controlled Anbar, often with the complicity of the vast Sunni majority who welcomed the outsiders in their fight against American forces.

But, U.S. officials say, al-Qaida overplayed its hand with Iraq's Sunnis, who practice a moderate version of Islam. American forces were quick to capitalize on the upheaval, welcoming former Sunni enemies as colleagues in securing what was once the most dangerous region of the country. And as 30,000 additional U.S. forces arrived for the crackdown in Baghdad and central Iraq, the American commander, Gen. David Petraeus, began stationing many of them in neighborhood outposts. The mission was not only to take back control but to foster neighborhood groups like the one in Khadra to shake off al-Qaida's grip.

The 40-year-old al-Azawi, who has gone back to work managing a car service, said relatives and friends persuaded him to bring his family home.

"Six months ago, I wouldn't dare be outside, not even to stand near the garden gate by the street. Killings had become routine. I stopped going to work, I was so afraid," he said, chatting with friends on a street in the neighborhood. When he and his family joined the flood of Iraqi refugees to Syria the streets were empty by early afternoon, when all shops were tightly shuttered. Now the stores stay open until 10 p.m. and the U.S. military working with the neighborhood council is handing out $2,000 grants to shop owners who had closed their business. The money goes to those who agree to reopen or first-time businessmen.

Al-Azawi said he's trying to get one of the grants to open a poultry and egg shop that his brother would run.

"In Khadra, about 15 families have returned from Syria. I've called friends and family still there and told them it's safe to come home," he said. Sattar Nawrous, a spokesman for the Ministry of Displacement and Migration, said the al-Azawi family was among 3,100 that have returned to their homes in Baghdad in the past 90 days.

"In the past three months, the ministry did not register any forced displacement in the whole of Iraq," said Nawrous, who is a Kurd.

The claim could not be independently verified, but, if true, it would represent a dramatic end to the sectarian cleansing that has shredded the fabric of Baghdad's once mixed society.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071103/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq




BREEZE -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/4/2007 2:03:34 AM)

You are right about the electricity, yes a bit better than the summer time but God knows how long will it be. That is the only thing that is good for now but as of the situation, i think it is still the same. FOR  two days now, from yesterday till this morning, a lot of bombings and gunshot being fired at, helicopters roaming. oppssss power has been cut...continue when power comes back




BREEZE -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/4/2007 7:33:51 AM)

Power is back so gonna continue with what i was saying.and btw have to make a correction with what i wrote...its helicopters hovering around not roaming around... I just hope that the real reason why most of our people coming back is that the condition is getting better. But to what i know and is that most of them are coming back because they are running out of money since they have no work and just spending the money they got. Well some people are coming back and some are going out still so we really can't tell which is which. Some news are different with what is really happening. All we are hoping for is a lil bit of peace and security.




baghdadi -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/4/2007 8:25:57 AM)


Inshallah things will improve and continue in that direction. Family in Baghdad states the same things are improving I cant wait to go back to my home. It is still early but God willing this trend will continue.




Iraqi100Percent -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/4/2007 9:33:14 AM)

Also The Syrian government is forcing Iraqis that have expired visas to go back to Baghdad, renew it there at the Syrian embassy and them come back to Syria. So those in Syria are being forced to return as if the life of an Iraqi isn't hectic enough.




YellowSunshine -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/4/2007 10:19:47 AM)

[:)] I am praying that this will continue and conditions will improve from here!  Enough bloodshed, terror, etc..  LOB, thank you and God Bless for posting this!

Breeze, welcome, you will find many kind people on this forum.  Sometimes like family arguments will happen, however, for the most part most of "us" get along rather well.  I suspect I am the only woman here, let alone an American and I am known for a BIG MOUTH.  LOL!!!  Sometimes we all joke as well, which with the horrors in this world is needed, laughter is good for the soul!

God Bless.






Calm -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/4/2007 11:55:23 AM)

My cousin was abducted two weeks ago and tortured.  He had to pay $100,000 to be freed.  Himself with his family have escaped to Syria.  It's not all good news, but it has gone very quiet on the news, maybe because everyone is heading to Pakistan.

I pray to see peace again.




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/4/2007 12:13:46 PM)

Sorry to hear it bro. My father was kidnapped in 2004 and I had to negotiate his release. This was the prime reason for us leaving Baghdad. May the money these animals make from such cowardly acts burn a hole in their hearts. I'll never forget how helpless I felt during the month long negotiations and what pleasure these scum took from making me squirm. I still have hatred in my soul for the uneducated **** I was dealing with. Illhamdulilah, at least I got him back alive. Your cousin can take some comfort from this as many have been returned as corpses.




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/4/2007 12:17:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: baghdadi

Inshallah things will improve and continue in that direction. Family in Baghdad states the same things are improving I cant wait to go back to my home. It is still early but God willing this trend will continue.




Insha Allah.




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/4/2007 10:19:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: BREEZE

Power is back so gonna continue with what i was saying.and btw have to make a correction with what i wrote...its helicopters hovering around not roaming around... I just hope that the real reason why most of our people coming back is that the condition is getting better. But to what i know and is that most of them are coming back because they are running out of money since they have no work and just spending the money they got. Well some people are coming back and some are going out still so we really can't tell which is which. Some news are different with what is really happening. All we are hoping for is a lil bit of peace and security.


Thanks for this BREEZE. Please keep us updated with more news from home. By the way, welcome to the forum.




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/6/2007 11:20:18 PM)

Despite the many reports that claim progress has been made with regards to the security situation, isn't it a bit premature to declare "victory." Its like everytime the minister of electricity used to make statements claiming the electricity would be greatly improved the insurgent scum would go and bomb another power station or cut the main electricity lines. Of course Maliki is protected and housed in the green zone so he really has no idea of what is going on outside his safe little enclave. He should try living in the "real Baghdad" before he makes such grandiose statements. Read below:





 BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki declared victory over "terrorist groups and militias" during a rare walkabout in Baghdad as night fell on Monday.

During the height of the sectarian violence, sunset was a signal to Baghdad's residents to hurry home to avoid falling prey to death squads roaming the streets, torturing and killing Shi'ite or Sunni Muslims.

Maliki visited Abu Nawas, a riverside avenue that is one of the most famous streets in Baghdad, accompanied by gun-toting security guards and aides, chatting to teenagers at a football clinic and listening to petitions from local residents.

"We have achieved victory against terrorist groups and militias. Things will not return to the way they were," he said, referring to the bombings and shootings that turned the city's streets into killing fields and made it the epicenter of sectarian violence that has killed tens of thousands.

Maliki's stroll took him to a nearby football pitch on the banks of the Tigris where Laith Hussein, a well-known Iraqi footballer was holding a clinic for teenagers.

"If the security situation was not stabilized I would not have been able to bring together these players who come from different neighborhoods in Baghdad," Hussein said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/world...5?pageNumber=1




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/10/2007 11:49:42 PM)

Some more good news from todays BBC. I hope all these positive developments aren't just because of the upcoming US elections.




Sunni group attacks al-Qaeda base  A Sunni faction has killed 18 al-Qaeda militants in an attack on a compound near the Iraqi city of Samarra, police have said.

Another 16 al-Qaeda members were said to have been captured in the attack. The Sunni Islamic Army of Iraq - once part of the insurgency against US-led forces - said its fighters attacked the compound east of the city. The faction is one of several Sunni former insurgent groups that have now turned against al-Qaeda.

Full Story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7088013.stm




YellowSunshine -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/11/2007 10:49:34 AM)

I certainly hope not as well LOB.

BREEZE, I am wondering about your average day there in Baghdad.  Could you pls. describe it?

Thought my first hubby was back in the US however he is still in Karachi, haven't heard from him, but wonder about conditions there.  I realize we are discussing Iraq, however, Pakistan is not that far from Iraq.  A few hours by plane?






baghdadi -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/11/2007 9:48:04 PM)

There are a couple of different reasons that Baghdad is a bit more secure, and its not as good as people think. 
 
1st many people have fled the country or there areas or have been killed
2nd the Americans are not letting the militias come into people’s homes like in recent memory
3rd people are just tired of the killings
 
 
But to say the gov’t has made progress with the occupation forces I think is a bit absurd, the Iranian/American Maliki gov’t is still not a real gov’t and has done nothing to improve the life’s of the Iraqis, the Maliki today said he wanted 18,000 militias members to become police or army soldiers! Yes that makes me feel more secure.  Don’t get me wrong I want things to get better more than anyone and inshallah it does but I have no faith in this puppet gov’t.




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/12/2007 12:05:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: baghdadi

2nd the Americans are not letting the militias come into people’s homes like in recent memory
3rd people are just tired of the killings


Hi baghdadi. These are 2 good reasons or am I missing something?




baghdadi -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/12/2007 12:43:05 AM)

Yes, sorry my statement was wrongly pharsed, but you see my point.

Down with Maliki, Iran, American Occupation, and not to forget the racist regional Kurdish gov't




sadiq2006 -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/12/2007 3:18:52 AM)

and not to forget also the racist of the Kurdish people and the turks.




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/14/2007 4:19:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: baghdadi

Yes, sorry my statement was wrongly pharsed, but you see my point.

Down with Maliki, Iran, American Occupation, and not to forget the racist regional Kurdish gov't


Yes, I get the gist of it.




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/14/2007 4:28:38 PM)

An interesting article from today's BBC News connected to the main title of this thread. If your interested you can read the full article by clicking the following link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7089168.stm

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Is Iraq getting better?
By Jim Muir
BBC News, Baghdad  
Is Iraq getting better? The statistics say so, across the board. Over the past three months, there has been a sharp and sustained drop in all forms of violence. The figures for dead and wounded, military and civilian, have also greatly improved.

All across Baghdad, which has seen the worst of the violence, streets are springing back to life. Shops and restaurants which closed down are back in business. People walk in crowded streets in the evening, when just a few months ago they would have been huddled behind locked doors in their homes. Everybody agrees that things are much better. But is the improvement only skin deep? And will it last once the American troops, whose "surge" has clearly made a difference, begin to scale down?

In the past few days, two events have underlined big changes that have happened in recent months on both the Sunni and Shia sides of the Iraqi equation.

On Thursday, in a crowded public hall in the mainly Shia city of Karbala, south of Baghdad, the local police chief, Brig-Gen Ra'id Shaker Jawdat, bitterly denounced the Mehdi Army militia, accusing it of presiding over a four-year reign of terror there. It was an extraordinary occasion. One by one, men and women stood up and screamed abuse at the militia, blaming it for killing and torturing their loved ones. It could not have happened a few months ago, when the Mehdi Army - the military wing of the movement headed by the militant young Shia cleric, Moqtada Sadr - was the real power in the streets of Karbala.

A few days later, Moqtada Sadr ordered his followers to halt all forms of military action nationwide, even in self-defence. That was a turning-point in Baghdad too. The number of bodies being found daily, dumped randomly in the city after being abducted, tortured and killed in sectarian reprisals, dropped from dozens a day to less than a handful.
 
Scenes of rejoicing

On Friday, near Samarra to the north of Baghdad, fighters from a Sunni faction called the Islamic Army in Iraq (IAI) launched a surprise attack on positions held by al-Qaeda in the area. Police said the IAI killed 18 al-Qaeda militants and captured 16 others. Shortly afterwards, another Sunni group known as the 1920 Revolution Brigades launched a similar operation against al-Qaeda at al-Buhriz in Diyala province, also north of Baghdad. They captured 60 al-Qaeda suspects and handed them over to the Iraqi army, amidst scenes of rejoicing in the town's streets. These also were events that simply could not have happened until recently. Both the IAI and the 1920 Revolution Brigades used to be insurgent groups themselves, fighting alongside al-Qaeda against the multinational forces and Iraqi government troops.




sadiq2006 -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/15/2007 3:39:06 PM)

iraqi100percent

what you will expect from the syrian people completly zero and rubbish. 




YellowSunshine -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/15/2007 3:39:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Calm

My cousin was abducted two weeks ago and tortured.  He had to pay $100,000 to be freed.  Himself with his family have escaped to Syria.  It's not all good news, but it has gone very quiet on the news, maybe because everyone is heading to Pakistan.

I pray to see peace again.


Calm, my heart goes out to you and your family.  I did not see this post until now.

LOB, the same above for you and yours.  I know these things leave deep scars that never heal.

by the way, i do have the chapters from your book and have read the beginning, very interesting!  will finish later tonight.  Thank You!!! [:)]




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/16/2007 12:33:06 AM)

Thanks YS. I'll tell you something about these abductions. Soon after my fathers release we left Baghdad and arrived in Amman. We decided to go for a meal at one of the local restaurants (Sultan Ibrahim) which is a favorite with Iraqis. As soon as we sat down many people came over to our table to show support for what we had gone through. As the evening progressed we learned that most of those who were kind enough to pass by were in fact themselves victims of kidnappings but had kept it to themselves. Its such a degrading experience that no one is comfortable talking about it and despite all the positive news now coming out of Baghdad I learned that kidnappings are on the rise again. Last week 2 of our friends were also kidnapped and the gangsters are asking for ridiculous sums of money for their release. This is the hard part as they will have to negotiate the fee down and the criminal cowards will threaten decapitation, sending fingers or toes to the victims family as proof that they mean business. Its a terrible, helpless and gut wrenching feeling to have to negotiate for a loved ones life and I wouldn't wish the experience on my worse enemy.




YellowSunshine -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/16/2007 9:53:51 AM)

I can NOT imagine that situation, on 2nd thought perhaps I can, tho. do NOT want to.  Horrible.

As mentioned before have someone close to me that went through a situation that was degrading, terrifing, not as bad as described here.  Can't say much about it at present.  So yes I can imagine it. 

The things "people" do to others is deplorable.  Justice comes from "above" and does come to those that behave in this manner.

How can "people" do this to others, as sadiq or someone said somex back, they are NOT people.  At least they do NOT have Souls. 




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/18/2007 7:23:47 AM)

This is a nice story about some real Iraqi heroes. Nobody can fault the Ambulance or Fire fighting services for the amazing effort they have put in over the past 4 years. I love these guys. [sm=smiley20.gif]




Baghdad's busy ambulance drivers catch their breath
By Waleed Ibrahim


BAGHDAD (Reuters) - With violence levels dropping across the city, Baghdad's hard-working ambulance drivers now find time to sit and sip tea instead of each rushing to four or five emergency calls a day.

"Today the situation has changed for the best. There are ambulances that sometimes do not go out on duty for two days," said Kais Mohammed, head of an emergency services centre that covers all of southern Baghdad and some areas west. Baghdadis had become used to the wail of sirens and the sight of red-and-white ambulances speeding through the city's chaotic streets in response to a relentless daily toll of bombings and shootings. Sectarian violence has claimed tens of thousands of lives in Iraq since the February 2006 bombing of a revered Shi'ite mosque in predominantly Sunni Arab Samarra, north of Baghdad, unleashed waves of reprisal killings.
Iraqi and U.S. officials have reported sharp falls in Iraqi and U.S. military casualties in the past two months after a "surge" of 30,000 extra U.S. troops was completed in mid-June.

Improving Iraqi security forces and the spread of neighborhood police units, mainly organized by Sunni Arab tribal sheikhs to drive out al Qaeda fighters, have also made significant contributions to a more stable Iraq, officials say. It has lightened the burden for Baghdad's ambulance drivers, who found no shortage of work during the capital's darkest days. Southern Baghdad's main emergency ambulance centre controls 16 stations across the south and west of the sprawling city, each of which has three ambulances. Each ambulance has rotating teams of three drivers and three first aid workers.

"One driver could go out on four or five calls in one day," said Mohammed, sitting in front of a picture of a dead colleague, as he recalled the height of the violence.

DRIVERS KILLED
Ambulance driver Abbas Fadhil remembers one day when he was called out to four separate explosions in his duty area.

"I remember one of those explosions -- I carried 12 of the victims, dead and wounded," he said.

First aid worker Alla Nasir has horrible memories, including one explosion at a fuel station in west Baghdad's once-affluent Mansour district.

"I transferred 17 bodies in the ambulance, which normally takes just two or three. One of the bodies was burning and stuck to the rubber mat. When we pulled the body out, the mat came out of the ambulance," he said. Mohammed said ambulance drivers had been at great risk of physical injury and psychological trauma because of their work. Ambulances were targeted by gunfire and roadside bombs, and five of his drivers had been killed.

"I don't know why the people were targeting us before," Nasir said. "We offer services for all.

"When we evacuate someone who is wounded or killed we don't know whether he is Sunni or Shi'ite ... We do not want to know, because our job is for all people."

Outside Mohammed's command centre, 15 shiny ambulances stand in a line. Beside them, five others bear bullet holes and broken windows, with some more badly damaged by roadside bombs. Ambulance drivers no longer feel afraid to go out, Mohammed said, and even move freely at night, when in the past they would have needed police protection. Improved security had also given the ambulance crews a psychological boost "When they realized they were not being targeted any more, they started to give more than before to their duties," he said.

(Writing by Paul Tait; Editing by Catherine Evans)




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Some good news at long last! (11/25/2007 12:19:04 AM)

Great news!!! Abu Nawass is officialy open. Dudes, this is real progress! Simech Mezgoof, Arak Zahlawi, Farida beer, all served on the banks of the river tigris and lit by those long strips of neon lights. I can see and smell it from here. [:D]




BAGHDAD (AP) - The smell of grilled fish and the sound of children's laughter provided moments of joy for many Iraqis Saturday as the government reopened Abu Nawas Street, a famous riverside promenade that has been largely barricaded from the public since the U.S.-led invasion. The Iraqi government hailed the renovation of the street - named for a ninth century poet and once known for its art galleries - as a sign of improved security. But the presence of U.S. troops and armed private security guards underscored the fragility of the new signs of calm.

Lt. Gen. Abboud Qanbar, the Iraqi commander for Baghdad, recalled the concrete barriers that once lined the street before a U.S.-Iraqi security operation began in mid-February to quell spiraling violence.

``The reconstruction of Abu Nawas is considered one of the bright results,'' he said during the opening ceremonies. But he warned the fight was not over, saying ``we realize that the enemy will not lay down his weapons as easily as some would think, but we are determined to defeat them.''

Abu Nawas Street, which sits on the east side of the Tigris River, was long a popular retreat for Iraqis with its old eucalyptus trees and trademark fish restaurants. But it became a no-go zone shortly after U.S. Marines toppled Saddam Hussein's statue at the nearby Firdous Square in 2003 and hundreds of American troops moved into the Palestine Hotel, an 18-story tower standing halfway along the street.

Soon most of the smart apartment blocks built for officers of Saddam's elite Republican Guard were abandoned, their occupants fleeing out of fear of reprisals. Squatters, mostly Shiites from the capital's poorest districts or the south of the country, moved in. To reopen the street, giant cranes removed or rearranged hundreds of blast barriers and tons of barbed wire. Grass was planted in the park, foot bridges built and children's swings and benches installed. Restaurants and other businesses were refurbished and owners were promised cash grants to get them through what promises to be a slow start.

The opening was delayed several times because of security concerns, and Saturday's celebration was heavily guarded by U.S. and Iraqi forces. Salam Jabar, a 37-year-old father of eight, made the trek from Baghdad's main Shiite district of Sadr City with his family, saying the street's reopening was a sign of success of the Baghdad security plan.

``At first, when I saw the heavily deployed forces on the street, I was reluctant to attend the celebration, but I did not want to let my children down so I went ahead with it,'' he said, sitting on a bench with his wife and watching their children playing on the swings and other playground equipment.

``This is a great day that shows that Iraq is witnessing security,'' he said.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlates...100996,00.html




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