Who is Iraq's best candidate for PM? Please submit your choice with a short explanation as to why you chose your particular nominee. Although I believe his chances are dwindling, I still think Allawi is our best option. Smart, politically savvy, well educated and understands International politics. Who is your choice and why?
I agree, I think Allawi is certainly the best choice right now. The only problem is that a lot of the majority won't except him because of the fighting in Najaf in 2004 under his term in office. The guy is as you said educated, determined, experienced and has the right connections, a bit with the West, a bit with the Sistani & co, a bit with the Kurds, a bit with the Sunnis, Christian groups, the tribes, a bit with the Turks, a bit with the Communists, Baathists, etc. His secular background makes him representative of ever Iraqi from the way I see it.
Hi tigris. Thanks for your contribution. In fact I posted this thread in order for members to voice their opinion on who they support for the PM job because Maliki will be kicked out sooner rather than later. It pisses me off that every time someone posts a pro Allawi comment he/she are attacked for their opinion and the attackers never have the balls to offer an alternative candidate. Lets see if they put up for a change.
It pisses me off that every time someone posts a pro Allawi comment he/she are attacked for their opinion and the attackers never have the balls to offer an alternative candidate. Lets see if they put up for a change.
and here is a perfect example...
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ORIGINAL: sadiq2006
i told before allawi is not the one for iraq, he does not care about iraq stop dreaming people wake up.
i respect your opinion believe me, but not with that person allawi wake up man come on wake up the iraqi people they should choose not anyone choose for them, this is the democracy and freedom.
Dude, if you truly respected my opinion then you would have read that I am sick and tired of people posting irrelevant rubbish when the title of the thread clearly asks the specific question "who is Iraq's best candidate for PM". This means I want members to offer candidates for the job and not just criticize others opinions. Enough is enough Sadiq. Time to grow up.
2 new reports about Alawi. The first is an interview conducted by the highly respected political journalist Tim "don't take prisoners" Sebastian and the second is a statement of intent by the man himself. Between the available sectarian and racist politicians, he was and still is the best available option. His ideas might work and if they don't, it certainly can't be worse than what we have now. In my humble opinion its worth trying for sure.
Martial law needed to get Iraq back on track - Allawi By Barbara Bibbo', Correspondent Published: November 02, 2007, 23:40
Doha: A former Iraqi prime minister said a state of emergency and martial law in Iraq were necessary to establish law and order in the country. In a one-to-one interview with former BBC's Hardtalk presenter Tim Sebastian to be broadcast on BBC World today, Eyad Allawi also warned multinational forces against premature withdrawals that may cause a 'massacre', after Britain announced a pullout of its troops in December.
"You promised law and order but nobody can bring law and order in Iraq," said Sebastian as the interview began at Qatar Foundation last week.
"We couldn't finish our task... but we achieved some results," said Allawi who led the first post-Saddam government and didn't hide his craving again for the position.
"But at what price? What about the loss of lives?" asked Sebastian.
"It was an unfortunate turn of events... it was our mistake and of the multinational forces... but mostly of Saddam's regime which has brought all this upon Iraq," said Allawi.
How Iraq’s Elections Set Back Democracy By AYAD ALLAWI Published: November 2, 2007 Baghdad
In the six weeks since Gen. David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker delivered their report to Congress on the situation in Iraq, there has been much criticism over the lack of progress made by the Baghdad government toward national reconciliation. Unfortunately, neither Washington nor the government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki seems to understand that reconciliation between Iraq’s ethnic and religious groups will begin only when we change the flawed electoral system that was created after the fall of Saddam Hussein. The paralysis that has afflicted the government in Baghdad, the sectarian disputes across the country and the failure to move toward reconciliation were all predictable outcomes of the senseless rush to hold national elections and put the Constitution in place. At the time, leaders from all major parties produced a memorandum calling for a delay of the elections, which I presented to Ghazi al-Yawer, then the interim president of Iraq.
Yet due largely to political pressure from the international community, the elections went ahead in January 2005, under a misguided “closed party list” system. Rather than choosing a specific candidate, voters across the country chose from among rival lists of candidates backed and organized by political parties. This system was entirely unsuitable given the security situation, the lack of accurate census figures, heavy intimidation from ethnic and religious militias, gross interventions by Iran, dismantled state institutions, and the use of religious symbols by parties to influence voters. Accordingly, the vast majority of the electorate based their choices on sectarian and ethnic affiliations, not on genuine political platforms. Because many electoral lists weren’t made public until just before the voting, the competing candidates were simply unknown to ordinary Iraqis. This gave rise to our sectarian Parliament, controlled by party leaders rather than by the genuine representatives of the people. They have assembled a government unaccountable and unanswerable to its people.
How to fix this mess and bring Iraqis together as a true nation? We must begin with a fundamental re-examination of the electoral laws and the Constitution. This is not simply my opinion — it is shared by many of my colleagues in the Parliament’s Council of Representatives. I propose that a new electoral law be devised to move Iraq toward a completely district-based electoral system, like the American Congress, or a “mixed party list” system like that in Germany, in which some representatives are directly elected and other seats are allotted based on the parties’ overall showing. In either case, the candidates must be announced well in advance of the election, and they must be chosen to represent the people in their locality.
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I apologize for not posting an opinion, I left Iraq over 30 years ago and I have no idea who are these candidates, nor I know anything of their background, or their experiences.
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Saleh Al-Mutlag is also a good option. I have seen him talk in many parliament sessions and interviews and yes he is a secular and true nationalist and has never lived in exile or outside Iraq. However, the problem is that the current Iraqi sectarian constitution or system would not allow him to be PM because he is a Sunni Arab. Currently, the PM has to be a Shia and the president has to be a Kurd, and parliament speaker a Sunni Arab. Every post is reserved for a particular ethnic or religious group (similar to Lebanon), which makes me sick and thats why Iraq is going backwards rather than forwards. The only down-side of Saleh Al-Mutlag is his Baathist past, although he wasn't a high-ranking member and has no bad history.
What would really be nice is if Ayad Allawi was PM and Al-Mutlag or Tareq Al Hashimi as president. That would never happen unfortunately.
Dont worry Harry, I don't think even the Iraqi people (in Iraq) know who they are, given that most of them top politicians were in exile and only made fame after the 2003 invasion.
I agree with both Harry and tigris on this one. I too must confess that I don’t have a clear picture of who is out there hence the reason for my starting this thread. Thanks to Baghdadi, I will now look up Saleh Al-Mutlag in order to learn more about his background and policies. I would ask other members to submit candidates in order for us all to gain a better understanding of whose out there. The main problem for Iraqis is that we really lack a strong, influential, national figure. We miss this and there is a great need for such a man to come forward and take the bull by the horns. Unfortunately with Islamism on the raise, we have a massive identity problem. I honestly think that Alawi could be that person, but the longer the current crop remains in power, the less likely Alawi will be given a chance to prove my theory correct.
Although I agree with many of you about Allawi, he is much better than Maliki, but the people of Iraq are sick of these faces that came of the American tanks perhaps a new face someone that can grab the peoples attention, a non-sectrain, an Arab that has a true Iraqi idendity NO MORE IRANIANS!
The problem is that most of the candidates came on the back of American tanks or worse, Iranian camel jockeys. I will frankly take anyone who can bring stability and security, no matter where he came from, just as long as they are Iraqis.
let me ask you something, when iraq was freed from the ottoman empire and the invation of the british and the french and the dividing of north of iraq into three parts from that 1915 and until now 2007, tell me one was good president and a good candidate from that time until now is there tell me is there NO I DO THINK SO, BECAUSE IRAQI PRESIDENT RULE IRAQ HE CREATES PROBLEM AND MORE DIVIDING FOR IRAQ LIKE THOSE CRAZY WHAT THEY ARE DOING, DO YOU THINK NOW ANY CHANGE WILL HAPPEN NO I DO THINK SO AMERICA WILL NEVER ALLOW IT WHY ? BECAUSE FOR THEIR BENEFIT WAKE UP.
There has been only 1 decent ruler in Iraq's history since independence from the Ottoman Empire, and that was Abdul Rahman Arif who ruled Iraq from 1966 to 1968. Every Iraqi that I know who was around during his time praises him as a peaceful man and it was the only era when Iraq was peacful. Even the Kurds respected him.
Back to the main topic, regarding today and today's situation, I dont see any decent candidates other than Ayad Allawi and (if the law allows) Saleh Al- Mutlaq or Tareq Al Hashimi. I would have also said Naji Sabri and Tareq Aziz, but I dont think the people will approve because of their Baathist past.
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Dont worry Harry, I don't think even the Iraqi people (in Iraq) know who they are, given that most of them top politicians were in exile and only made fame after the 2003 invasion.
So any one of us can return and claim of being a patriot and run for PM office huh since we all have been in this politics forum for such a long time, and know what has been going on in Iraq all this time.
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By the way guys. Anyone wants to go back to Iraq and become an interpreter for the US forces and/or contractors? It pays from $145,000 to $186,000 US annually. With all the benefits attached including 2 weeks of paid vacation every six months.
Dont worry Harry, I don't think even the Iraqi people (in Iraq) know who they are, given that most of them top politicians were in exile and only made fame after the 2003 invasion.
So any one of us can return and claim of being a patriot and run for PM office huh since we all have been in this politics forum for such a long time, and know what has been going on in Iraq all this time.
mmmmm, sounds like a tempting idea. Lets all create a political party together.
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mmmmm, sounds like a tempting idea. Lets all create a political party together.
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