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NeoBabylonian -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (12/31/2007 4:46:08 PM)

I agree with most what you said bro, and thanks for feeling shame, but a lot of it, my people unfortunately brought on themselves - most are falsely identifying themselves and placing their loyalties with outside powers who want nothing but instability in Iraq, like Saudi Arabia, Iran and Syria.

And which Arabs are you taking about?
Arabs in Saudi/Syria are very jealous of Iraq and want to exploit the instability by selling us basic commodities we do not need for very high prices in the black market. However, most people who call themselves Arab in Iraq (a lot are of Mesopotamian ethnicity though) are very good people who love Iraq.
Thanks for the reply brother.



sadiq2006 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/1/2008 12:35:47 PM)

NeoBabylonian

there is something you have to be something also proud of that the arabs and the habrews are descented from mesopotamia from their great grandfather prophet ibrahim (peace be upon him) espacia;y the madyan arabs and the qurash arabs from their arab prophets shoaib and mohammed who are descented from prophet ibrahim (peace be upopn him) mesopotamian prophet, even the arabs add and thamod from their prophets hud and saleh (peace be upon them), are descented from mesopotamia also from your mesopotamian prophet noah (peace be upon him), that is the syrians and the saudis are jealous and the entire the middle east do not want the iraq to be better than them.[:D][:D][:D]

that is why iraq is the world central human history started and the oldest human civilization in the world from 8000 years ago, that is why they world want to destroy iraq and the kurds are stealing it from you.

god bless you my friend from your american friend.   



NeoBabylonian -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/1/2008 4:44:31 PM)

sadiq2006
 
Thank you very much brother, what you said is 100% true, and it is very nice to know some Americans know the truth about Mesopotamia. There are also many people in Iraq though who are 'arabized' - they call themselves 'arab' but are really of Mesopotamian origin (who stayed in Iraq) like me, also some are really turks or kurds who have also been arabized - even a bit are Armenians.
But it is very true, Arabs of countries like Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Syria do want to destroy Iraq, also some non-Arabs like the Irani Persians who also want to destroy our once great country. The are not just jealous of Iraq and it's great and rich history and many peoples, but they also want to do something much worse - they want to destroy Iraq to make the people desperate, so they can be easily exploited and robbed.

I totally agree with you my American brother, and thank you very much for caring about Iraq and it's people.
God bless you, and I wish you and your family all the best for the New Year.



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/11/2008 4:04:54 AM)

I've avoided this thread because I always thought its title was untrue. I know this is going to piss many of you off but as an Arab I fail to see how we can be classified as "humanitarian"! Putting the Arab track record against the Kurdish one is hardly a vindication of the author saif's headline. Our history shows that we haven't placed any importance on humanitarian issues that effect our own people, let alone think of others? Lets examine Iraq and forget about the rest of the Arabs. On a political/Ethnic front lets take a look at the Christians for example. Although Christians comprise less than 5% of Iraq's population, they make up nearly 40% of the refugees fleeing Iraq. More than 60% of Iraqi Christians have already left the country since 2003. Why is that? Perhaps we can look towards what is happening to the Mandaean and Yazidi communities for how humanitarian we are? Given that both sets of communities are at the risk of elimination due to ethnic cleansing then the answer becomes clearer. Look at how we (the Arab government of Iraq) treated the jews who were Iraqi nationalists and played an important role in the early days of the Iraq's independence. The Iraqi Jewish community which numbered over 120,000 in 1948, almost entirely left the country in the wake of increased persecution following WWII. Look at our use of capital punishment and lack of religious tolerance, are these typical humanitarian traits? Look at our orphanages and centers for the disabled, most of which are populated by unqualified staff and run by heartless profiteers. I'm not speaking about a lack of high tech equipment but basic requirements like cleanliness and care. These places are never monitored by the government because we simply don't care about humanitarian issues as much as other countries do. All our governments run our countries like personal cash registers and hardly any budget is set aside for those who are less fortunate. I could go on but I think you all get my drift. Despite my being a proud Arab I do recognize the fact that we are not a humanitarian people.



sadiq2006 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/26/2008 4:08:56 PM)

lion of babylon

what you said 100% right and correct :(All our governments run our countries like personal cash registers and hardly any budget is set aside for those who are less fortunate).
 
did you forget something why those innocent iraqi jews are kicked out from iraq from 60 years ago, did you ever thought of that no ofcourse that is why they are doing the same thing now kicking the iraqis who are christians and muslims, so they steal iraq more, they are reapeating the same thing like before 60 years ago do not forget, the same senario and the episodes are continuing my dear friend.



NeoBabylonian -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/26/2008 7:33:34 PM)

I totally agree bro, but you must understand that stuff is not in our nature. All Arabs, of whatever race, ethnicity or religion, and all other peoples in Iraq got along fine for the past 9,000 years - the Assyrian-Babylonian wars were political, not racial.
This racism and hatred I believe was brought onto us by outside political movements that try to divide Iraq and weaken it. Sine 'Sent El Farhood' when we kicked out the Jews, Iraq's economy, culture and services all declined. Now we are kicking the Sunnis, Christians and Moderate Shia, these people are the best of Iraq, and now Iraq is being even poorer, weaker and less cultured - just look at our government and new flag of godness sakes!

All our best talent is escaping the motherland, and all their brains and talents are falling into other county's hands, making the recieving counteries richer and more powerfull, while making Iraq weaker and easier to exploit.

I disagree with LoB totally in him saying it is the Arabs, I am quite insulted even. It is politics and our stupididty which is crossing racial, ethnic and religious barriers - just look at the Kurds. They are not Arab, but they are acting just as racist, and have an equally bloody history - they killed 70% of the Christian population in the North with the dirty Ottomans, and now they are causing all sorts of **** again with racist seperatism.

Iraq must wake up, realise our 'bed-fellows' are raping us, and unite for peace and independance.



sadiq2006 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/27/2008 6:24:27 AM)

neobabylonian

everything you said is more than 100% right and correct i solote you [sm=smiley17.gif][sm=smiley17.gif][sm=smiley17.gif][sm=smiley17.gif][sm=smiley17.gif][sm=smiley17.gif][sm=smiley4.gif][sm=smiley4.gif][sm=smiley4.gif][sm=smiley4.gif][sm=smiley4.gif][sm=smiley4.gif], and the kurds are continuing their silly mistakes again and again and again.[sm=smiley27.gif][sm=smiley27.gif][sm=smiley27.gif][sm=smiley27.gif][sm=smiley27.gif][sm=smiley27.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=smiley20.gif]
 



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/27/2008 9:05:42 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: NeoBabylonian

I disagree with LoB totally in him saying it is the Arabs, I am quite insulted even. It is politics and our stupididty which is crossing racial, ethnic and religious barriers - just look at the Kurds. They are not Arab, but they are acting just as racist, and have an equally bloody history - they killed 70% of the Christian population in the North with the dirty Ottomans, and now they are causing all sorts of **** again with racist seperatism.


NB. My comments were a direct criticism of the title of the thread

quote:

Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab


The headline insinuates that the Kurds are none humanitarian whilst the Arabs are a gentle, compassionate and humanitarian people. Which part of my post offended you? Get back to me bro.



akrawi1 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/27/2008 9:47:15 AM)

موساد في كردستان
2008/01/27:أضيف بتاريخ بقلم :
[image]http://www.albadeeliraq.com/new/admin/photos_below/nijirvan.JPG[/image]   مصادر سورية : رئيس الموساد الاسرائيلي زار كردستان العراق للتخطيط ضد دمشق 
24/01/2008
دمشق - كردستان - 
قالت مصادر كردية من سوريا ان هيئة العمليات في الجيش و القوات المسلحة  السورية اصدرت تعميما و بتوقيع نائب القائد العام للجيش و القوات المسلحة وزير الدفاع العماد حسن تركماني ، و تم تلاوته على العسكريين، جاء فيه (ان رئيس جهاز الموساد الإسرائيلي قد زار كردستان العراق مؤخراً وخطط لإدخال أجهزة ونزل في إستراحة رئيس حكومة إقليم كردستان واجتمع مع عناصر الموساد العاملة في شمال العراق، كما التقى ممثلين عن الأحزاب الكردية وقام بتزويد مجموعات عناصر الموساد بهواتف خليوية مرتبطة بقمر التجسس الصناعي الإسرائيلي الذي أطلقه مؤخراً وذلك لنقلها وإدخالها إلى سوريا عن طريق حزب يكيتي الكردي، وحزب الإتحاد الديمقراطي الكردي وتوزيعها على مؤيديهم الذين يؤدون الخدمة في الجيش العربي السوري وتقديمها كهدايا لقادتهم ، وقال التعميم  أن هذه الاجهزة تعمل وهي بوضع الإغلاق، وحول هذا التعميم قال فؤاد عليكو سكرتير اللجنة السياسية في حزب يكيتي الكردي في سوريا في تصريح خاص لصحيفة {ئاسو} الكردية التي تصدر في كردستان العراق "أن إدعاء وزير الدفاع السوري بعيد عن الحقيقة"مشيراً إلى أن النظام السوري يريد بذلك التعميم أن يخلق ضغوطاً على حزب يكيتي الكري وحزب الإتحاد الديمقراطي (PYD) لإيقاف نشاطاتهمها ، وأردف عليكو خلال حديثه للصحيفة : "إننا في حزب يكيتي الكردي نعتبر هذا الموقف مؤآمرة جديدة ضد الحركة التحررية الكردية ، وليست لنا اي علاقات مع الموساد حتى الآن، ونناضل في إطار سوريا

وكالة الصحافة العراقية



sadiq2006 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/27/2008 2:38:11 PM)

akrawi1 my dear friend
 
where have have you been my pal it is been long time, ofcourse the kurds will never their mistakes never.  



akrawi1 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/27/2008 4:29:07 PM)

my dear sadiq
we are hungury from you because you left the arabic forme when mr alani ,saif ali aboumahamed wait your openion,and follow the english emberialisem peoples, so you must return back to write to iraqi people in ARABIC.



sadiq2006 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/29/2008 3:33:26 PM)

akrawi1

believe i cannot find the arabic article in this forum i believe it vanished, and tell me how is my friends al ani, saif ali, aboumahamed, i miss them so much.

god bless you my friend, akrawi1 if you can bring back the arabic article i will post more arabic topics more and more.[:D][:D][:D] 



al ani -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/29/2008 3:56:12 PM)

thank you mr sadiq for your love to the arabic negociations, and like to tell you that the adminstrator put the arabic fourm in one topic so to find it you must open the main page which likes a sun in the  english forum page and then you found it in the left  hand of the word ( log in ) or( log out) then you find one subject in arabic generaly the second or third line in the left,this occurs because some people tell that the site was english site and not arabic even if all the iraqis people read arabic and only fifth of them or less  read english, thanks mr sadiq.



NeoBabylonian -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/30/2008 8:26:02 AM)

Hey bro, sorry it was my bad, I didn't realise your post was just a criticism of the thread title. I thought you was actually saying all Arabs are inhumane. I understand now cuz, so your comments are alright. [:D] 



Harry -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/30/2008 9:39:44 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sadiq2006

akrawi1

believe i cannot find the arabic article in this forum i believe it vanished,


Sadiq:
No it has not vanished, It is very easy, all you have to do is go to “All forums”, then select (سياسه-مناقشات بألعربي), soon you will be among your type. However, there is one thing I wish you stop doing. Stop dragging those hard headed individuals into our discussions; they know nothing but copying and pasting news articles, without even commenting on these articles. We want people who express their opinions, their feelings, and their points of views (even if these were opposing views); not what the news media tells people.
Good luck on your endeavor.



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/30/2008 11:52:55 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Harry

Stop dragging those hard headed individuals into our discussions; they know nothing but copying and pasting news articles, without even commenting on these articles. We want people who express their opinions, their feelings, and their points of views (even if these were opposing views); not what the news media tells people.


Amen to that.
 
I’d just like to remind members why the Arabic forum was created in the first place. alani, Akrawi or one of his other alter egos (herby known as AKA) informed us, the English writing Imperial Iraqis, that his/their "supporters" objected to him posting comments in English. Nobody on the forum objected but I suspect most were wondering exactly which "supporters" AKA was referring to. After this announcement and over a period of 3 months AKA flooded the forum with news reports and as Harry pointed out, these reports were pure cut&paste articles with no original contributions made by AKA. It reached its optimum C&P level when 23 threads of the 25 on the first page were only AKA's cut&paste posts. Since the arabic section was opened, this part of the politics forum has come to life and new regular members are a testament to how much healthier the general atmosphere has become since AKA's departure. 
Oh yes, just in case any of you have forgotten the now infamous tantrum thrown by AKA on the youtube thread in which he accused forum members of posting pornography and corrupting his wife and children. Most of his rants and raves were gibberish but I do remember him referring to us as Willid El Shawari3 in one of his more colorful posts. Classy guy!
PS: I just visited the Arabic forum and its business as usual. Page after page of AKA’s cut and paste articles and guess what, no new members. I guess all those "supporters" AKA was referring to must be on holiday! My advice to him is this; If he wants to discuss issues openly, without resorting to censorship and petty insults then he is most welcome, otherwise he should go back to posting his news reports on the arabic section and take Sadiq2006 with him.



akrawi1 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/30/2008 4:21:38 PM)

to harry
you consider your self as teacher and you discuss the high class problemes in iraq and world, the others coppy the news and bring them to your fourm, i think it is a very weak politic forum in the internet, and the others like to riched it by gave the readers the last news of their country, and the ( trough) that your forum can not write it because you walks beside the walls, you and what called Babelon or new Babelon ......etc stay alone now also i asked my frinds and sadiq to be higher than this harries ideas, by byyyyyyyyyy to the nice people and ask them to let you alone.



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/31/2008 2:21:28 AM)

Seeing as my name was mentioned in your latest rant I feel I should respond.

quote:

ORIGINAL: akrawi1
to harry
you consider your self as teacher and you discuss the high class problemes in iraq and world, the others coppy the news and bring them to your fourm.


You still don’t get it do you. This is a discussion forum not a newswire! Why is this so difficult for you to understand? I’ll simplify it for you. Wikipedia defines the 2 words as follows:

A forum is a web application for holding discussions and posting user generated content.

So it’s fine if you use news reports in order to introduce or highlight a subject, i.e. if you post a news report and follow it with your own comments/opinions but you appear to want to turn the forum into a newswire which is defined as follows:

A newswire is composed of editors, journalists and sometimes the public who cover stories concerning a particular subject.

Get it now???

quote:

ORIGINAL: akrawi1
i think it is a very weak politic forum in the internet, and the others like to riched it by gave the readers the last news of their country


Again you are referring to a newswire. We are all perfectly capable of choosing our own sources to access news from our country. Who do you think you are, Rupert Murdoch? And if you think this forum is weak then perhaps you’d care to explain why have you’ve been posting your rubbish here for nearly 2 years?

quote:

ORIGINAL: akrawi1 
and the ( trough) that your forum can not write it because you walks beside the walls, you and what called Babelon or new Babelon ......etc stay alone now also i asked my frinds and sadiq to be higher than this harries ideas


Good and thank you. Now you and your friends make sure to find a nice forum where you can cut&paste to your hearts content without pissing off the other members.

quote:

ORIGINAL: akrawi1 
by byyyyyyyyyy to the nice people and ask them to let you alone.


Adiós and have a good life. Remember to take sadiq2006 with you and don't slam the door on your way out!



sadiq2006 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/31/2008 9:23:38 AM)

lion of babylon

do not be such a rude person and being smart for nothing ok respect yourself and respect other peoples ideas, and also the arabic media or the news media i do not believe anything in the television because most of the people do not say the truth only what it pleases them, and like i said before respect yourself and respect other ideas you are not that smart do you understand, and do not make me your enemy let us stay friends and respect each other.

god bless you.   



Harry -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (1/31/2008 1:59:29 PM)

L.O.B.

Please don't waste your time and effort on an issue that is not worth worrying about, all those illiterates are trying to do is raise our B.P., and maybe their standing in their community. However our community knows better than to allow such unworthy individuals to stand in our way of life, or in the way of forward progress.

Keep up the good work.



Harry -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (2/1/2008 4:17:27 PM)

في حالة عدم ألأستيعاب من قبل بعض أعضاء هذا ألموفع
 
تعريف ألمنتدى
 
موقع على شبكة ألأنترنت لأجراء مناقشات و كتابة مواضيع من قبل ألأفراد أللذين يستعملون ألموقع
 
تعريف ألنبأ
 
مقاله مؤلفه من قِبل محرر صحيفه او جريده او مجلّه. او من قِبل أفراد من ألشعب يقصدون مِن خلالها نشر قصّه او حادثه 
تخصُ موضوعاً معينا
 
شكراً لكُم، و ألسلامً
 



akrawi1 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (2/3/2008 6:22:22 PM)

الى السيد المسمي نفسه اسد بابل
ليكن بعلمك ان احسن وسائل الحث على المناقشة هي وضع الاخبار العراقية الساخنه امام المشاركين في الفورم ومن خلال ملاحضاتي على حوارك انت بالذات فهو يتطرق الى مواضيع جد بسيطة على الساحة العراقية وهذا ياخذ القاريء بانك فرحت بالاحتلال الامريكي وتريد المزيد من التبعية لهذه الدولة المستعمرة التي دخلت باسم الديمقراطية وهي اتت للسيطرة على الموارد النفطية بالخليج وتخيفهم كخراع الخضرة اذا تعرف هذا المثل العراقي والمستعمر هذا لم يرهبة الا اولائك الذين يكشفون الحقائق ويبحثون في خبايا الامور ويكتبوها للشعب للسماع بالخبر اولا ثم مناقشته اما العموميات والاراء الهامشية فهي لا تغني ولا تسمن من الجوع فالخبر الهادف الصحيح يدفع الانسان العراقي الى ابداء الراْي والتحليل العلمي والمقاربة مع الاخرين وخاصة اذا كان بلغة اهل البلد وليس لغة المستعمر التي لا يفهمها الا جزء من شعبنا فمناقشاتنا ليست محددة بمن يعرف كلمتين انكليزية بل كل الشعب العراقي الذي اكثره عرب الديمقراطية الحقيقية لا تبحث عن النخب والشاذين عن الطريق الوطنية فاكتب باللغة الوطنية لتتحاور مع اهل بلدك وشعبك وسوف ينتقص منك ان خاطبت العراقيين بالانكليزية وقدم لهم الخبر اولا ليفهموه ويناقشوه معك وكلي اسف على اسلوبك الركيك حتى بالانكليزية التي تتحدث بها  فسبعون بالمئة من شعبك لا يفهم جملة منها لقد تجنيت على الحوار وابداء الراْي لان العراقيين احرار ولا يتكلمون الاجنبية الا مع الاجنبي اما ابن الوطن فلديه العربية والكردية والتركمانية وهذه اللغات المقدسة لدينا كعراقيين لا نقبل بديلا عنها وخاصة لغة الاستعمار والكفر واخيرا لماذا التهجم على صادق فهو انسان يحب العراق مهما كان مستواه الثقافي فهو احسن من الساسة اللذين ينهبون اموال الشعب او يقتلون على الهوية



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (2/4/2008 1:17:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: akrawi1
ليكن بعلمك ان احسن وسائل الحث على المناقشة هي وضع الاخبار العراقية الساخنه امام المشاركين في الفورم ومن خلال ملاحضاتي على حوارك انت بالذات فهو يتطرق الى مواضيع جد بسيطة على الساحة العراقية وهذا ياخذ القاريء بانك فرحت بالاحتلال الامريكي وتريد المزيد من التبعية لهذه الدولة المستعمرة التي دخلت باسم الديمقراطية وهي اتت للسيطرة على الموارد النفطية بالخليج وتخيفهم كخراع الخضرة اذا تعرف هذا المثل العراقي والمستعمر هذا لم يرهبة الا اولائك الذين يكشفون الحقائق ويبحثون في خبايا الامور ويكتبوها للشعب للسماع بالخبر اولا ثم مناقشته اما العموميات والاراء الهامشية فهي لا تغني ولا تسمن من الجوع فالخبر الهادف الصحيح يدفع الانسان العراقي الى ابداء الراْي والتحليل العلمي والمقاربة مع الاخرين وخاصة اذا كان بلغة اهل البلد وليس لغة المستعمر التي لا يفهمها الا جزء من شعبنا فمناقشاتنا ليست محددة بمن يعرف كلمتين انكليزية بل كل الشعب العراقي الذي اكثره عرب الديمقراطية الحقيقية لا تبحث عن النخب والشاذين عن الطريق الوطنية فاكتب باللغة الوطنية لتتحاور مع اهل بلدك وشعبك وسوف ينتقص منك ان خاطبت العراقيين بالانكليزية وقدم لهم الخبر اولا ليفهموه ويناقشوه معك وكلي اسف على اسلوبك الركيك حتى بالانكليزية التي تتحدث بها  فسبعون بالمئة من شعبك لا يفهم جملة منها لقد تجنيت على الحوار وابداء الراْي لان العراقيين احرار ولا يتكلمون الاجنبية الا مع الاجنبي اما ابن الوطن فلديه العربية والكردية والتركمانية وهذه اللغات المقدسة لدينا كعراقيين لا نقبل بديلا عنها وخاصة لغة الاستعمار والكفر واخيرا لماذا التهجم على صادق فهو انسان يحب العراق مهما كان مستواه الثقافي فهو احسن من الساسة اللذين ينهبون اموال الشعب او يقتلون على الهوية


Look Akrawi, I‘m not morally obliged to write in Arabic just because I’m Iraqi. I write in English because it’s my choice. If I wanted to only write in Arabic then I would have found a suitable forum to do so. That’s not to say I wouldn’t take part in a thread or post that was written in Arabic but I simply do not have interest in spending my time reading news reports and clippings because I can do this for myself. Posting in English hardly means my wanting to force others to do so. You said that Iraqis will only accept their native languages such as Arabic, Turkomani and Kurdish but answer this: how many Arab Iraqis speak either of those languages? The fact is most educated Iraqis speak English but cannot converse in Kurdi or Turkomani. Your contention that English is the devils language is extremely short sighted and shallow. It is the world’s language and this is fact, whether you like it or not. What is important is that Iraqis of all ethnic backgrounds share views and opinions about what is taking place in our country and not whether they do so in their native tongue. As I have told you and your alter egos on many occasions, the reason no one answers your posts (even in the Arabic section of the forum) is because you don’t actually submit any opinion or comment. Instead you cut & paste your articles in the hope that someone does the hard work for you. It’s like you don’t really have an opinion but want to fill your time posting unoriginal news reports that can be found on thousands of websites which are freely available to all on the WWW. Just look at the Arabic section of this forum and ask yourself this: Why is it so dead? The answer is that those who populate the Arabic section are either too lazy or incapable of posting original material. Also the great majority on this forum prefer to discuss matters in English. This doesn't mean they love their country any less which appears to be what you are trying to say in a sly and underhand way.
As for Sadiq2006. You claim to be a Kurd but I’m seriously starting to doubt it. Your best "American" buddy Sadiq hates your people with a passion and refers to you as brainless, liars, thieves and traitors. In nearly all his posts he uses racist language to describe the Kurds yet you don’t seem to mind discussing issues with him in English? Ever heard of the English word HYPOCRITE? Look it up.



akrawi1 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (2/4/2008 12:34:38 PM)

to Lion of Babylon
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Look Akrawi, I‘m not morally obliged to write in Arabic just because I’m Iraqi. I write in English because it’s my choice. If I wanted to only write in Arabic then I would have found a suitable forum to do so. That’s not to say I wouldn’t take part in a thread or post that was written in Arabic but I simply do not have interest in spending my time reading news reports and clippings because I can do this for myself. Posting in English hardly means my wanting to force others to do so. You said that Iraqis will only accept their native languages such as Arabic, Turkomani and Kurdish but answer this: how many Arab Iraqis speak either of those languages? The fact is most educated Iraqis speak English
وانا اقول دع العراقيين يحكمون على حبهم للانجليزية وهنا اقصد عراقيين الداخل وليس اللذين بالخارج مثلك

فالخبر الهادف الصحيح يدفع الانسان العراقي الى ابداء الراْي والتحليل العلمي والمقاربة مع الاخرين وخاصة اذا كان بلغة اهل البلد وليس لغة المستعمر التي لا يفهمها الا جزء من شعبنا فمناقشاتنا ليست محددة بمن يعرف كلمتين انكليزية بل كل الشعب العراقي الذي اكثره عرب الديمقراطية الحقيقية لا تبحث عن النخب والشاذين عن الطريق الوطنية فاكتب باللغة الوطنية لتتحاور مع اهل بلدك وشعبك وسوف ينتقص منك ان خاطبت العراقيين بالانكليزية وقدم لهم الخبر اولا ليفهموه ويناقشوه معك
هذين المقطعيين من راْيي وراْي ما يسمى باسد بابل فهلا قلتم الحقيقة لمن لا يعرف بلده ؟؟؟



Harry -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (2/4/2008 5:04:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: akrawi1

وانا اقول دع العراقيين يحكمون على حبهم للانجليزية وهنا اقصد عراقيين الداخل وليس اللذين بالخارج مثلك

فالخبر الهادف الصحيح يدفع الانسان العراقي الى ابداء الراْي والتحليل العلمي والمقاربة مع الاخرين وخاصة اذا كان بلغة اهل البلد وليس لغة المستعمر التي لا يفهمها الا جزء من شعبنا فمناقشاتنا ليست محددة بمن يعرف كلمتين انكليزية بل كل الشعب العراقي الذي اكثره عرب الديمقراطية الحقيقية لا تبحث عن النخب والشاذين عن الطريق الوطنية فاكتب باللغة الوطنية لتتحاور مع اهل بلدك وشعبك وسوف ينتقص منك ان خاطبت العراقيين بالانكليزية وقدم لهم الخبر اولا ليفهموه ويناقشوه معك
هذين المقطعيين من راْيي وراْي ما يسمى باسد بابل فهلا قلتم الحقيقة لمن لا يعرف بلده ؟؟؟
 
السيد العقراوي.
 
لو كانت الاخبار اللتي تنشرها انت (باسمائك المختلفه) تدفع الانسان العراقي الى ابداء رأيه. قل لي اذن، لماذا المقالات اللتي تنشرها انت، تُقابل بالسكوت التام من قبل الجميع. حتى انه بأمكاني ان أقول ان ما تنشره، تموت قبل ان تولد.
هذا الجزء من العراقيين اللذين لا يجيدون الانگليزيه، هم ما خلفهُ الطاغيه صدام. و لو كنت تريد ان تتابع خطوات البعثيين السفله، فهذا طريقك انت وحدك. الله معك.
نحن خرجنا من العراق لاننا لم نقبل ان نرى الوطن يتدهور الى مجاري البعثيين الكريهه، وليس لعدم حبنا للعراق. كلٌ له طريقته للدفاع عن الوطن. نحن اخترتنا ان نُدافع من الغربه.
كونك انت لا تجيد الانگليزيه، لا يعني ان محاوراتنا تجب ان تنحصر على الكتابه بالعربيه. الديمقراطيه اللتي تؤمن بها ليست حقيقيه. الكل هنا لهم الحق ان يعبروا عن آرائهم بأي لغه يجدونها ملائمه لهم.
النقطه الوحيده اللتي لم تتكلم عنها هي جوهره الخلاف بيننا. وهي انك لم تكتب اي شيئ جدير بألنقاش. كل ما تكتبه هو مقالات مأخوذه من ما تنشره وكالات الانباء من جرائد و مجلّات بدون إبداء رايك في هذه الاخبار. كيف تتخيل ان يناقش أعضاء الموقع ما تكتبه، لما انت بنفسك ليس لك رأي بها؟
 



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