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saifali -> Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (10/26/2007 5:31:43 PM)

If we looked to the problem of Kurkouk and the attack of Turk to the north of Iraq, we notice that bad behaviar of the Kurd .and the brather help of all the Iraqi arabs to the kurd by visiting of  Alhashimi and many arabs  members to Ankara to stop the entering of turk Army to the Kurd area even if they prevent the Arab to enter their Area and made a special Visa for arab to enter Arbil or Selimania,in the same time  the arab not blame them and stell behaive as Brathers.
This Racism was discover by all the nebhers of Iraq and wrote in news paper......etc






al ani -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (10/27/2007 10:16:07 AM)

yes Mr Saif
happy to met you here again, i like to tell that the negociation with turk was finished with out solving this problem and now the north of Iraq is in danger,so look what the news paper said.
الكرد وقود الحرب
2007/10/27:أضيف بتاريخ بقلم :الأخبار البيروتية
[image]http://www.albadeeliraq.com/new/admin/photos_below/2.JPG[/image]
 1-حرب باردة تركيّة ــ أميركيّة... وقودها الأكراد
معمر عطوي : توحي التوترات الدائرة في شمال العراق بين الجيش التركي وحزب العمال الكردستاني، بوجود مناخات حرب تركية ـــــ أميركية باردة، يحاول خلالها الطرفان رفد أدوات النزاع بوقود كردي، رغم سعي واشنطن إلى عدم تطور هذه الحرب إلى درجة قد تقوض أحلامها في بلاد الرافدين.
ومن الواضح أن الانشقاقات التي يعانيها حزب العمال الكردستاني بجناحيه التركي والإيراني، منذ اعتقال زعيمه عبد الله أوجلان في تركيا في عام 1999، تُظهر مدى جنوح البعض في هذا الحزب اليساري إلى طلب الدعم الأميركي لاستكمال معركته من أجل تحقيق الاستقلال.
هذا التورط الأميركي بدعم أطراف كردية مناهضة لإيران وتركيا وربما سوريا، الذي أكدته تقارير إعلامية واستخبارية، دفع الجانب التركي إلى تعزيز روابطه مع دول الجوار على حساب علاقته التاريخية مع حليفه الأكبر في حلف الأطلسي، ولا سيما بعد اتساع حجم الهوة بين أنقرة وواشنطن، منذ رفض أنقرة فتح آراضيها أمام غزو القوات الأميركية للعراق في عام 2003.
الجانب التركي أيضاً يشهد شبه انقسام بين مؤسستيه العسكرية والسياسية؛ ففيما تسعى الأولى إلى محاربة الأكراد لتأكيد دورها السياسي مدافعةً عن الدولة العلمانية، وتعزيز البعد القومي في وجه التمدد الديني، تتريَّث الأخرى في شن هجوم شامل على الأكراد لاقتناعها بأن الحل العسكري في جبال القنديل، حيث يعسكر حوالى 3500 مقاتل كردي، لن يحل المشكلة الكردية المستعصية جذرياً، مع وجود رافد بشري وإيديولوجي لحزب العمال في جنوب شرق الأناضول التركي





SoranJ -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (11/6/2007 6:11:19 PM)

 
kurdistan does not need iraq to defend them.
kurdistan is strong and they can defend their own. this al hashemi was baathist in saddams days and he will never be a friend of kurdistani people.
what you call arbil and sulaimaniya and the real name is hewlar and sulaimani is not the home of arabs it is the home of kurdistanis and kirkuk is the same




saifali -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (11/7/2007 3:18:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoranJ


kurdistan does not need iraq to defend them.
kurdistan is strong and they can defend their own. this al hashemi was baathist in saddams days and he will never be a friend of kurdistani people.
what you call arbil and sulaimaniya and the real name is hewlar and sulaimani is not the home of arabs it is the home of kurdistanis and kirkuk is the same





stell in your dream !!!
YOU MUST PASS  OVER ALL THE DEAD BODIES OF ARAB TO GET 1 CM FROM NORTH IRAQ




sadiq2006 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (11/8/2007 10:07:29 AM)

soranj
 
you discusting stupid basterd you are still here in this furom, why don't you go and have stupid dreams of your own you naive, you kurds are nothing without iraq, turkey and iran will kick you stupid **** you jerk so just shutup.[:@]  




sadiq2006 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (11/8/2007 10:13:03 AM)

soranj

arbil and sulaimaniya are mesopotamian (iraqi) cities not yours because everyone in the world knows that you kurds are stupid and liars and theaves, so keep dreaming.[>:]  




tigris81 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (11/8/2007 8:03:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoranJ

kurdistan does not need iraq to defend them.
kurdistan is strong and they can defend their own. this al hashemi was baathist in saddams days and he will never be a friend of kurdistani people.
what you call arbil and sulaimaniya and the real name is hewlar and sulaimani is not the home of arabs it is the home of kurdistanis and kirkuk is the same


[:D][:D][:D][:D]
Prove that Al Hashemi was a Baathist.

Also, prove that 'Hewlar' & 'Sulaimani' are the real names?

Prove all the above.




sadiq2006 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (11/12/2007 4:24:17 AM)

my dear tigris81,

do not listen to soranj this guy, he is crazy and stupid and cannot prove anything in above, he proves only onething that he is and the rest of the kurds are naive people and crazy.




tigris81 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (11/12/2007 8:55:02 AM)

 
Don't worry Sadiq, I've noticed that from his first post.




Harry -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (11/12/2007 12:25:08 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tigris81

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoranJ

kurdistan does not need iraq to defend them.
kurdistan is strong and they can defend their own. this al hashemi was baathist in saddams days and he will never be a friend of kurdistani people.
what you call arbil and sulaimaniya and the real name is hewlar and sulaimani is not the home of arabs it is the home of kurdistanis and kirkuk is the same


[:D][:D][:D][:D]
Prove that Al Hashemi was a Baathist.

Also, prove that 'Hewlar' & 'Sulaimani' are the real names?

Prove all the above.


Oh Tigris, that would not be hard at all. He’ll come up with something from wikipedia and try to convince us, and the world that it is the real history of the area, and no one should contest it, just like Powel did at the UN before the invasion.




tigris81 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (11/13/2007 7:57:14 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Harry

Oh Tigris, that would not be hard at all. He’ll come up with something from wikipedia and try to convince us, and the world that it is the real history of the area, and no one should contest it, just like Powel did at the UN before the invasion.



[:D] true. Its amazing what a small jar of sugar or baby powder can do.




sadiq2006 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (11/15/2007 5:25:09 PM)

my dear tigris81

haven't you noticed that the kurds do not need any friendship from any people in the world, they need only the devil friendship and satan that helps their evil mind and hatred to other human culture, and achieve evil deeds.[8|]  




saifali -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (12/4/2007 2:32:53 PM)

please look and judge this:
نص رسالة مفتوحة وجهها العشرات من خبراء النفط العراقيين إلى مجلس النواب يرفضون فيها سياسات سلطات إقليم كردستان النفطية
 
السادة  رئيس و أعضاء مجلس النواب المحترمون

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله

           خلال الأسابيع القليلة الماضية أعلن إقليم كردستان العراق عبر موقعه الالكتروني و وسائل الإعلام عن قيامه بتوقيع عدد من عقود المشاركة بلغ عددها حوالي 15 عقدا مع شركات أجنبية دون استحصال موافقة وزارة النفط العراقية أو حتى الانتظار لحين صدور قانون النفط الاتحادي.

         و قد أعلن وزير النفط العراقي د. حسين الشهرستاني أكثر من مرة عن رفض الوزارة لهذه العقود و اعتبرها عقودا غير شرعية و هدد باتخاذ إجراءات قانونية بحق الشركات الأجنبية الموقعة و إدراجها في القائمة السوداء و بالتالي حرمانها من المشاركة في أية عقود مستقبلية تعلنها وزارة النفط. كما أكدت على هذا الموقف أيضا لجنة النفط و الغاز التابعة لمجلس النواب و هذا هو فعلا الموقف الصحيح الذي يجب مساندته و دعوة كافة الفرقاء و الكتل السياسية و الشعبية و بغض النظر عن مواقفها الأخرى لمقاومة هذا التصرف المتعمد و الخطير من قبل إقليم كردستان العراق.

كما تجاوز الأمر توقيع العقود كسياسة انتهجها الإقليم لأمر اشد خطورة و لا يستند إلى أي مرجع قانوني أو سياسي، و يمثل تجاوزا خطيرا على حقوق بقية مكونات الشعب العراقي و ذلك عندما منحت لعدد من تلك الشركات مناطق تتجاوز حدود إقليم كردستان إلى محافظات نينوى و التأميم و صلاح الدين و ديالى و منها العقد مع شركة هنت اويل الأميركية، كما واعطى الإقليم لنفسه الحق بتكليف شركة نفط كردستان التابعة للإقليم  مسؤولية تطوير حقل خرمالة الذي يمثل احد القباب الثلاث لحقل كركوك و الذي سبق و ان قامت وزارة النفط قبل أكثر من سنتين بإحالة عقد إعداد التصاميم و تجهيز المعدات له و التي تم انجازها منذ عدة أشهر، إلا أن سلطات الإقليم منعت شركة المشاريع النفطية التابعة لوزارة النفط من القيام بأعمال التشييد.

       إن خبراء النفط العراقيين الذين سبق و أن حذروا في بياناتهم الصادرة في شباط و تموز الماضيين من خطورة تقسيم مسؤولية التفاوض و التوقيع على العقود و طالبوا بحصرها بشكل مركزي من قبل وزارة النفط و شركة النفط الوطنية العراقية.... يعتبرون الخطوات التي أقدم عليها الإقليم غير شرعية. و كان واضحا من خلال حملة التعاقد بالجملة هذه إنها ماكانت لتحصل خلال أسابيع، بل كان واضحا استمرار الإقليم بالتفاوض مع الشركات الأجنبية حتى في وقت كانت فيه عملية التفاوض و مناقشة القانون الاتحادي تجري على قدم و ساق، مع تجاهلهم آراء و تحفظات العديد من الكتل السياسية و المنظمات الشعبية.

      إن التصرف الذي أقدم عليه المسئولون في إقليم كردستان العراق و بإصرار و دون اعتبار لكل المواقف المغايرة و المعارضة لتشير إلى صحة الرأي الذي أبداه خبراء النفط ، و بذلك يعلنون دعمهم لموقف وزير النفط و لجنة النفط و الغاز في مجلس النواب برفض هذه العقود و يتمنون على الجهات المشرعة أن تأخذ بنظر الاعتبار بقية الملاحظات الجوهرية التي أبداها الخبراء حول قانون النفط الاتحادي و العمل على إعادة صياغته بشكل يضمن الحقوق الوطنية للشعب العراقي و عدم التسرع بعملية تشريعه في الوقت الحاضر.
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الموقعون خبراء النفط:
1. د.إبراهيم رشيد
2. إقدام درزي
3. د. اكرام الحق بكر
4. حازم السلطان
5. حسام الدين محمود كشمولة
6. راجح محي الدين يوسف
7. المهندس رعد حسن العزاوي
8. سعد الله الفتحي
9. سعد صالح الزبيدي
10. سعد طلال
11. سليم الدهان
12. شريف محسن علي
13. صباح عوني
14. صباح محمد علي جمعة
15. صباح نوري
16. صبري كاظم
17. ضياء إبراهيم أيوب
18. ضياء البكاء
19. د.طارق الارحيم
20. طارق شفيق
21. طارق نسيب العمري
22. طلال سرسم
23. د.طلال كنعان
24. د.عبد الأمير الانباري
25. عبد الله يونس الخيري
26. عبد المجيد الشريدة
27. عرفان زكي أمين
28. عصام الجلبي
29. علاء الخطيب
30. علي عجام
31. غسان احمد راسم
32. غسان الهدبان
33. فؤاد الكاظمي
34. فؤاد قاسم الأمير
35. فاروق القاسم 
37. د. فالح الجبوري
38. د. فالح الخياط
39. فالح العذاري
40. قاسم العريبي
41. قحطان العنبكي
42. د. كامل العضاض
43. كامل مهدي
44. كريم الشماع
45. د. كمال القيسي
46. كمال عابدين
47. لفته شدهان
48. د. محبوب الجلبي
49. د. محمد علي زيني
50. د.محمد محمود الجبوري
51. محمد مصطفى الجبوري
52. محمد يونس العبيدي
53. محمود محضرباشي
54. د. مهدي حنوش
55. نعمان حديد الحديثي
56. نمير توفيق المفتي
57. نوري العاني
58. وحدة زوين
59. وسيم ناظم الملائكة
60. وليد الدباس
61. ياس الجنابي 
العدد الصحيح هو 60




ONE UNITED IRAQ -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (12/5/2007 12:46:24 AM)

Soranj,
Haven't the Kurdish leaders, who want to divide Iraq, learned their painful lessons yet? Everyone knows that if the Kurds ever commit the stupid and treacherous act of seceding from Iraq, they will suffer the most brutal lessons that they still haven't seen in history. What the Iranians and the Turks will do to the Kurds will make even Saddam look like an angel, and the world, as we saw just recently, will not have the stomach and the will to stop them. So why don't you tell your leaders that they need to wise up and be thankful that they are part of Iraq and have all of the Iraqi oil, including the oil in Kerkook, shared with them and among all of the Iraqi people. And just be happy. LEARN FROM YOUR HISTORY, AND YOU WILL BE MUCH BETTER OFF.




sadiq2006 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (12/6/2007 7:58:28 AM)

one united iraq

please do not listen to that crazy kurdish soranj and his crazy people who were never from mesopotamia (iraq), they just come and steal iraq nad its history like they divided north of iraq into three parts from 80 years ago at the time of sikis biko agreement, the kurds are originaly from russia and several regions in far away land in the indo-europeon places and they not from iraq.

so please do not listen to that crazy kurdish soranj he is just a foolish and stupid like those other kurds who will never learn their mistakes.

god bless you.




Harry -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitarianism of Arab (12/6/2007 1:25:07 PM)

I do not believe that the Iraqi officials went to Turkey to defend the Kurds, as they do not deserve defending (not that they do not need it), they most likely visited Turkey to defend the Iraqi soil from being harmed and burnt just to get rid of a few rebels who their greed has taken over their common sense.




NeoBabylonian -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (12/10/2007 9:49:02 AM)

See, thats the reason I support the Turks, even though I dislike their dirty ways when I been there last year.

Incase you haven't come out of the cave you been living in, this is a multi-racial, multi-cultural world, people of all races are welcome everywhere and have as much right to the land as it's indiginous population if they are legally a citizen or resident in that country's political borders. This includes foriegners (non-citizens) who have legal right to remain. Now how dare you sir say Arab-speaking Iraqis, citizens of the country of Iraq, are not allowed to live and freely excercese their culture there? Using your own twisted, racist logic, I say that the land of Northern Iraq originally belonged to the Assyrians and Chaldeans, who where there way before you, and places on the South of Kurdistan were occupied for thousands of years by Babylonians, the ancestors of a lot of Arab-speaking Iraqis.

Also, I hate to bring up this fact, but if Kurdistan belongs to the Kurds, does that not mean Europe belongs to the European (in race)? Then why do so much of your people go there on backs of lorries, illegally, and expect and enjoy all you are given in that land? Isn't it hypocritical for you to enjoy those luxuries, but deny them to LEGAL citizens of Iraq to enjoy in your fantasy kingdom?




sadiq2006 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (12/17/2007 2:23:08 PM)

NeoBabylonian

thank you for that however do not waste your breath on the crazy stupid kurds, who are originaly from russia and azrabijan and tajakistan and the other regions in the uppor north of asia but they never belong to iraq, and do not forget that there are other iraqi lands have been occupied by the three countries syria and turkey and iran and that is ofcourse when north of iraq was divided into 3 parts before 80 years ago by the british and the french invasion.




sadiq2006 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (12/17/2007 2:52:11 PM)

NeoBabylonian

i want to read this also to how those stupid crazy basterd kurds are stealing all of the mesopotamian (iraq) history and claiming only for them, that is why i hate thhe kurds just read it for my sake please :

watchout the kurds are stealing iraqi people's history from the time prophet adam (peace be upon him) till islam time read this :
 
Barbaric Attacks on the Assyrian and Mesopotamian History

Fred Aprim
California

With the support of the United States, the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) was established in northern Iraq in 1992. Subsequently, efforts ensued to construct the foundation for what could become a new Kurdish nation state. There are those, however, who are convinced that the US at this time at least is unlikely to sponsor a Kurdish state within Iraq that could boost similar aspirations by Kurds in Turkey. Thus Kurds in Iraq could expect some degree of autonomy from the Iraqi Central Government sufficient enough to enable the US to maintain a strategic presence in northern Iraq, watch over Iran and keep Turkey happy at the same time.

At any rate, this new Kurdish nation-state envisioned by the Kurdish leaders in Iraq needed a foundation to be built upon and one pillar to support such foundation is history. The construction of this history was necessary since the Kurds have a relatively brief history in Iraq (Mesopotamia) compared to that of the Assyrians. With a healthy treasury and a strong continuous aid from the US and other European countries, the KRG has allocated millions of dollars on rewriting the Kurdish history. It has contacted and paid politicians and historians around the world for this purpose.  Luckily for the Kurds, the fabrication of their history began when there were no experts on Kurdish history, thus their claims set no boundaries.

The KRG did not only rely on the paid Kurdish and non-Kurdish writers, it went further by learning from Saddam Hussein's policies. KRG officials are never shy from making unfounded and outrageous historic claims as they see them fit and then allow those paid writers to justify such claims. If we look at Saddam Hussein's claims, we would see that he first claimed that he was a descendent of Mohammad.  Then he turned around and claimed that King Nabuchednassar of Babylon was his ancestor. Kurdish officials have learned from such chauvinistic and brutal dictatorship as they too with insolence and sauciness claim that they are the descendents of the Medes, Hittites and other Indo-European races and then turn around and claim that the Sumerian, Akkadian and Assyrian kings were Kurdistanis as well. One does not understand, are the Kurds Indo-Europeans or Semites, because one could not be both. I guess some Kurdish writers and politicians think that the Kurds are unique like no other people on earth as one half of the Kurdish body is Indo-European, while the other half is Semitic.

The rewriting of the Kurdish history requires much manipulation, appropriation, imagination and great disguise. The examples of the barbaric attack on the history of Assyria and Mesopotamia by certain paid Kurdish writers and officials are plentiful. The Kurdish assault on Mesopotamian history is turning to become a major offensive as more and more appalling claims by those arrogant Kurdish writers and politicians turn on various sites or media outlets.

Allow me to list the following examples: 
 
Dr. Farsat Mur'ai

Dr. Farsat Mur'ai, a Kurd, is the Head of the Kurdish Central Studies in the University of Dohuk, northern Iraq. The corruption of history by Dr. Farsat would make world's theologians and historians scratch their heads.  Let me just point to one of the most outrageous claims made recently by this so-called history teacher. Dr. Farsat claims that the early fathers of Syriac literature and theology Mar Aprim the great, Mar Narsai and Bardisan were Kurdish Christians. There is not much that a person can say about such an outlandish claim.

On May 18, 2006, the al-Jazeera.net published an article by Dr. Farsat Mur'ai titled "The Historic Role of Kurds."
In his article, Dr. Farsat speaks about the role of the Kurds in world's history and claims that the Kurds had a rather important role, because the world's first civilizations appeared on Kurdish lands. He adds that the ancient people of Iraq, including the Sumerians, Akkadians, and Assyrians were considered to be the second wave of mankind that spread after the resting of Utnapishtim's (Noah) Ark on one of the Kurdish mountains. He claims that this is recorded in the Akkadian and Assyrian ancient texts. Dr. Farsat continues later to claim that the third millennia B.C. historic records have saved the names of many gods that were worshipped by the people of northern Mesopotamia, the ancient people of Kurdistan, in addition to few myths or epics that had great influence on the development of civic awareness and mental structure for those nations and the surrounding nations as they began to have common feelings that framed civic, economic and political relationships. Dr. Farsat continues on and claims that other gods made the doctrine of the people of northern and eastern Mesopotamia or Subartu. These gods that originated from the Hindu-Aryan mythology, he claims, left their homes of southern Russia in the beginning of the second millennia B.C. and headed towards India, Iran, Anatolia and Subartu (Kurdistan).

I just wonder, where did Dr. Farsat see those claimed Assyrian and Akkadian ancient texts that refer to that certain Kurdish mountain? Did he see those texts in his dreams? The rest of the gibberish that he claims is nothing but a figment of his imagination and he is brilliant at mixing up Mesopotamia, Subartu and the illusive Kurdistan to confuse the simple readers.

Fadhil Mirani

During the early 1990s, Fadhil Mirani, Political Bureau Secretary of the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) of Massoud Barazani, head of the Kurdish front in Dohuk at the time, repeatedly used racist methods to divide the Assyrians with methods similar to those of Saddam's Ba'ath regime. Foremost among their tactics were financing divisionists in northern Iraq to undermine the Assyrian history and making the Assyrians known as a group of separate religious denominations rather than a distinct ethnic group, thus questioning the historic rights of Assyrians in northern Iraq and rejecting the Assyrian rooted history in the region.
 
Mulla Bakhtiyar

On October 22, 2007, al-Malaf Press posted an interview with Mulla Bakhtiyar, In Charge of Foreign Relations Bureau in the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) party under Jalal Talabani.

Mr. Bakhtiyar stated that there were investigations and international historic studies during the previous League of Nations regarding Kirkuk, Sulaimaniya, Dohuk, Arbil and Mosul that prove that those regions are Kurdistani regions and that those regions were/are inhabited by the indigenous Kurdish people. Mr. Bakhtiyar answered a question regarding the rights of the Turkoman for example to establish a region for themselves in northern Iraq and he stated: "…It is known that nations (peoples) have the legal right to establish their own states or regions if they had historic and geographical lands; however, the Turkomen and ChaldoAshur [referring to Assyrians] are residing in Kurdistan and they have full citizenship rights in it, but they, i.e., Turkomen and Assyrians, do not own/have any Turkomeni or ChaldoAshuri [Assyrian] lands in Kurdistan and/or in Iraq."

This writer published a detailed article about Mr. Bakhtiyar's statement as a guest editorial for AINA.
Mr. Bakhtiyar must be blind since he fails to recognize all the Assyrian archaeological findings in northern Iraq and in world's museums, when we know for a fact that there is not a single ancient Kurdish monument, stele, artifact, tablet, etc., about people known as Kurds in northern Iraq.
 
Mahrdad Izady

The writings of Kurdish writer Mehrdad R. Izady regarding the claimed Kurdish essence of northern Iraq have influenced many, including David Axe and Dr. Victor Sharpe M.D., who repeat the history fabrications of Izady. For example, on July 30, 2007, Victor Sharpe, a medical doctor, posted an article on the web site of Israel Hasbara Committee where he copied the claims of Izady that the royal house of Adiabene was Kurdish.

This writer published a detailed response to Dr. Sharpe's statement as a guest editorial for AINA. Did Dr. Sharpe M.D. study reliable history accounts, including those of 1st Century renowned Jewish historian Flavius Josephus who asserts that Adiabene (Arbella or Arbil) was Assyrian and the Adiabeni people were Assyrians? (See Whinston, William. Translator. The Works of Josephus. Massachusetts: Hendrickson Publishers Inc. 1999.) I will leave this to the Jewish scholars to figure out. Because, if we assume that the accounts of the 1st Century father of Jewish history Josephus are false and those of Izady and Dr. Sharpe M.D. are correct, then the Jewish scholars have a lot of explaining to do and they have much to lose on an academic level. This would put a big question mark on other accounts by the famous 1st Century Jewish historian Josephus, if one assumes that he was wrong about Adiabene and Izady and Dr. Sharpe M.D. are correct.
 
Changing Educational Material

The KRG intimidates Assyrian individuals or groups that do not agree with its policies in northern Iraq. The Assyrians must accept any preconditions set by the KRG if any benefits are to be granted. For example, the Sixth Grade Geography Curriculum book taught in Syriac Schools in northern Iraq forces the Assyrians to print that Simko the warlord who murdered the Assyrian Patriarch Mar Benyamin Shimun in 1918 was a national hero. As we know, Simko invited the Assyrian patriarch to his home to negotiate peace terms. However, after the negotiations were completed and Simko accompanied the patriarch outside and as the patriarch was attempting to ride his carriage, Simko went inside immediately and his men began to open fire and shot the patriarch in the back. Is that the act of a national hero or a coward? If the Assyrians refuse to print this in the book, the Kurdish authorities would not approve the curriculum and perhaps close the schools. The policy of the KRG is no different than that of Saddam Hussein, who was involved in the policy of forced Arabization and indoctrination of the non-Arab people in Iraq. Today, the KRG is involved in the policy of forced Kurdification and indoctrination of the non-Kurdish people in northern Iraq.
 
Iraqi President, Jalal Talabani

Jalal Talabani, the Head of the PUK and the current Iraqi president, had declared earlier that he is not aware of the presence of Assyrians in Iraq. In the hallways and corridors of the Iraqi cabinet, Kurdish officials in the Iraqi Central government continue to spread the poison that Assyrians have no lands in Iraq, thus the Iraqi Assyrian Christians are simply outsiders residing in the country.




 
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I am bringing up these examples for two main purposes: First, it is to refute certain claims (including those of certain Assyrian groups or individuals working for the KRG currently) that claim that the undermining of Assyrian history and rewriting that of the region are not a collective policy of the KRG and Kurdish leadership. These few claim that such actions are of individual nature, but as we see from the above few examples that that is not the case and that politicians and officials of the KRG are in the center of this campaign. The second purpose is to bring attention to what is going on in northern Iraq as Kurdish politicians, officials, and writers construct their new history. They do this via a meticulous campaign that includes indoctrination, deceit, falsification and corruption of history to achieve two main goals: The first is to make everyone digest the myth of the rooted Kurdishness of northern Iraq. The second is to make everyone accept that they are Kurdistanis living on the supposedly historic Kurdish lands.
Most of the articles on Kurdish history written by Kurdish writers are in essence a collection of historical events, but those events are restructured and represented in a way that suit the Kurdish agenda in rewriting the history of northern Iraq (Assyria). Kurdish writers and officials conveniently insert the name Kurds and Kurdistan wherever and whenever necessary and with that they create a new version of Mesopotamian history, Kurdish style. One could recommend these claims to be read as a comic tale, but it is not funny either. The KRG might pay certain media groups to promote this corrupted version of history, but the KRG and those paid writers would never be able to ignore the thousands of steles, monuments, artifacts, tablets, ancient cuneiform and old Syriac texts and a wealth of history documents that prove the Assyrian essence of northern Iraq. They could not ignore tons of archaeological evidence that fill the world's museums or those pieces of history that continue to be excavated in northern Iraq, that prove beyond any reasonable doubt the strictly Assyrian origin of the region.  

Let me be clear that the Kurdish people deserve attention and have the right for self-determination, but this attention and/or special treatment that they are receiving must not be granted at the expense of the demise of the indigenous ethnic people of the region, namely the Assyrians, or other ancient religious minorities such as the Yezidis. 

It is unfortunate that certain non-Kurdish writers and self-proclaimed historians blindly copycat corrupted versions of history of Mesopotamia and Assyria written by certain Kurdish writers and nationalists. They do this without serious efforts to investigate such claims made by Kurdish nationalists and writers that are constructing a new history for northern Iraq (Assyria), Assyrians and for the Kurdish people. We must encourage genuine Kurdish scholars to step up to the plate and challenge these revisionists. We encourage them to write the history of Kurds in Iraq, a genuine history narrative that is, which would be respected by academia and not allow politicians and blind nationalists to write a history that is the laughing stock of the world historic and archaeological societies.

Unfortunately, the methodical campaign of denying, corrupting and usurping the history of northern Iraq and Assyrians goes on today in the supposedly new, free and democratic Iraq. What is most unfortunate is that certain Kurdish officials and writers continue to do this while many Assyrians are busy with controversies and internal conflicts created by their churches. These churches are vulnerable and their leaders have been and continue to be influenced by certain governments in the Middle East and most recently by the empowered KRG.

i have never seen in my entire life such animals and naive people like those crazy stupid basterd kurds, they are not human beings they are devils and demons and killers.




saifali -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (12/17/2007 4:04:01 PM)

mr sadiq
i agree with you 90% about what you say:

i have never seen in my entire life such animals and naive people like those crazy stupid basterd kurds, they are not human beings they are devils and demons and killers.




sadiq2006 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (12/19/2007 1:05:53 PM)

NeoBabylonian and saifali

did you read above the article that i just showed that the kurds are stealing all the history of mesopotamia (iraq)for themselves, how low and discusting these kurds can be.[sm=smiley15.gif][sm=smiley15.gif][sm=smiley15.gif][sm=smiley15.gif][sm=smiley15.gif][sm=smiley15.gif][sm=smiley11.gif][sm=smiley11.gif][sm=smiley11.gif][sm=smiley11.gif][sm=smiley11.gif][sm=smiley11.gif][sm=smiley22.gif][sm=smiley22.gif][sm=smiley22.gif][sm=smiley22.gif][sm=smiley22.gif][sm=smiley22.gif][sm=smiley7.gif][sm=smiley7.gif][sm=smiley7.gif][sm=smiley7.gif][sm=smiley7.gif][sm=smiley7.gif][sm=smiley35.gif][sm=smiley35.gif][sm=smiley35.gif][sm=smiley35.gif][sm=smiley35.gif][sm=smiley35.gif] 




NeoBabylonian -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (12/19/2007 8:01:19 PM)

I've read most of it, and I don't know wether to cry at them stealing my ancestor's history, or laugh at how pathetic the are.
That is the most disgusting thing I have seen in intellectual perversion, as by stealing our History, they are stealing who we are in essence. I believe all human history is equally worthy, whether it be 9000 years old like that of the Sumerians, 3500 or so years of the Akkadians, or 1700 of the Arabs. However, by stealing our history, those idiots have shown how they view our History as more worthy than their own, and rather than swallow it and shut up, they steal it.

Unfortunately, it seems true what my mother says, and what I laughed of as BS that I heard some Kurds say, they are trying, and moving dangerously close to succeeding in making a Kurdish state. Iraq is a richly multi-cultural and multi-religious country wherever you go, even now (but unfortunately to a lesser extent) during this war, and those racist Kurdish politicians want a 'Pure-Kurdish' state. What better way to get other races to leave than with the shallow, racist, primitive and closed-minded 'We were here first, this is our land'. However, with the case of the Kurds, the Truth is that land belonged to the Kingdoms of Assyria - some to the South even were occupied by the Babylonians, so they falsely steal our history, and tell us to get out.

The bitterly funny irony was that when the Kurds immigrated into Northern Iraq, the Mesopotamian people were too kind and open minded to tell them that - the great Mesopotamians aren't racist, so the Kurds were welcomed. Now their extremist animals are telling the decendants of those people to leave.

All in all, I am disgusted by their behaiviour now, and I gladly support the Turks in fighting the PKK, however, I still feel sorrow at the innocent, none-extremist Kurds being harmed (and the beautifull trees and grass on our land being burned [sm=smiley36.gif] ).




sadiq2006 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (12/31/2007 12:42:26 PM)

neobabylonian

they are making the prophets idris and noah and ibrahim who are mesopotamians (iraq) origins, they are stealing this history also from the iraqis.

those kurds will never learn mistakes no matter what.

heven't you noticed that north of iraq was divided into 3 parts from 80 years ago at the time of sikis beko by the british and the french, and they want ot divide mesopotamia (iraq) again without any shame the americans and the kurds are doing this.

as an american myself i feel a shamed of what my people are doing to mesopotamia (iraq) the land of the prophets ancestors and the first ones, i really feel shame.

sorry my dear mesopotamian neobabylonian and god bless you.[&o][X(][:o]   




sadiq2006 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (12/31/2007 12:50:39 PM)

neobabylonian

i believe that iraq will become stronger like it was before 8000 years ago at the time of sumer and akkad and babylon, and also at the time of islam without those discusting politicle borders that divided mesopotamia (iraq).
 
that the true mesopotamia (iraq) without the politicle borders that is the original iraq but the world is afraid from this to happen. 




sadiq2006 -> RE: Racism of Kurd and Humanitranism of Arab (12/31/2007 12:55:43 PM)

neobabylonian

you know very well that america and israel will never let this thing to happen for iraq, because america do not anyone to become stronger than it and israel will be afraid from iraq in the future if it became stronger again like in the past.

your country will the first cradle human history and the cradle of the prophets and the cradle of the human civilization, and the arabs are jealous from iraq and they know that very well.[:D][;)][:)]   




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