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ORIGINAL: SoranJ haval, i like your post. these arabs are racist but it not their fault do you know why it is because it is in their dirty blood.
Well, let’s see who the racists are. 1- In northern Iraq, where you claim to be “Kurdistan”, unless an individual is a Kurd, that person is denied even the most basic human rights, “the right of existence”.
2- A non-Kurd will starve to death, for he/she will not be employed anywhere, any anytime.
3- If a family wants to rent a house or an apartment unit, unless they are Kurds, they will be charged triple the rent a Kurd family normally gets charged.
4- Even when shopping for food or other basic daily necessities, a non-Kurd pays multiple the cost of what a Kurd pays.
So, Mr. SuranJ, Don’t give me that B.S. about Arabs being racists. Your Idea of an independent Kurdistan appears to be the core of racism in Iraq. All that because you are pissed off about what Saddam and his thugs did to a couple of Kurdish occupied villages, the very same act that all Arabs were appalled by, yet could do nothing more than you Kurds could do back then.
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ORIGINAL: SoranJ it is them who divid their country and their fault
Aaaahhhhh, So now you admit that it is the Arabs Country.
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ORIGINAL: havalkaka
When I read the idiotic words of this so-called Sadiq(kathib) I feel like I am in the middle ages. I don't believe this filthy Sadiq is anything but a fake member with two arrrrses. Everytime You Sadiq open your mouth and it is like a public toilet on Tikrit road when passengers between Mosul and Baghdad were forced to have a break and throw it all there.
I don't understand why the so-called moderators let this website become so ****ttty racist. I always respect my fellow arabs and I know most of them are good people. When I read words from this ugly Sadiq I feel I should go for Iraq's division. How can I live with such hatred. To hell you the mesopotamian iddddiot devil minded Sadiq. keep squeezing the dirt out. Your diarrhoea has no remedy like cholera.
Havalkaka:
I am going to give you the same advice I give to all our members. Just ignore Sadiq, he is like a noisy ghost, all he does is that he repeats himself over and over again. The more you pay attention to him the more you fuel his destructive howling. He does not know that he is hurting the image of a united Iraq more than he is doing any good for it. The best thing you do is not even respond to his comments, that way he will be disappearing from the stage, and save all of us a big headache.
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thank you for teaching soranj about the truth and whenever you teach him that thing the kurds will never listen because they are so stubborn and idiots and will always be naive.
and also i am not hurting the image of a united Iraq because iraq was devided in the past before 80 years ago at the time of sikis beko agreement, so i love iraq more than any other country in the world because iraq should always be respected nomatter what the cause, god bless you my dear harry.
Are we going to get to the point of this posting I had the trouble into posting it. I believe a word of good, well done, excellent maybe in order. My father used to export to so many different countries before 85, when half of our force went to war, and imports of materials essential to our product were cancelled.
We have the power to build our country, that same power which is destroying now. We had diffrent famelies working for us, Kurds, asyrians, Palestenians, Iraqis shiats and sunnies, and we had no trouble whatsoever. (Something that Ignorant Sadiq does not know about) I believe, and I still hope that one day the light in the distance will shine above us all, high and bright. Iraq is not for dividing
((الجسر العباسي في اربيل يبقى شاهدا على عروبة وتركمانية مدينة اربيل الاشورية))
في محاولة استفزازية لمشاعر العراقيين العرب المسلمين , وفي شهر الرحمة والبركة, شهر رمضان المبارك, هذا الشهر الذي أنزل الله سبحانه وتعالى فيه القرآن الكريم على رسوله الاعظم محمد صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم, أمر مسعود البرزاني, وبعنجهية صهيونية عدوانية شرسة, تغيير ديمغرافية أربيل وطابعها الاسلامي التركماني العربي, الذي عرفت به على طول القرون والعهود الاسلامية الى الطابع القومي ((الكردستاني )) الذي لايحفظ له التأريخ وجودا حقيقيا في المدينة – أربيل - الى حقبة قرن من الزمن , وهذا ماتؤكده كلّ الوثائق العثمانية , وتأريخ الدولة العراقية الحديث المتعلق بمدينة اربيل الشمالية للعراق المحتل . لقد أمر مسعود البرزاني بتغيير أسماء كلّ الجوامع والمساجد الاسلامية التي تحمل أسماء اصحاب الرسول محمد – ص – من العرب , واستبدالها بأسماء ومسميات تتفق مع التوجه القومي الكردي الجديد .
يذكر التقرير الذي نشرته مواقع الحزبين الكرديين وبعض مواقع الاحتلال, انّ مدينة اربيل تضم أكثر من 4 آلاف جامع ومسجد اسلامي في المدينة تحمل اسماء اصحاب الرسول محمد – ص- وبعض القادة الاسلاميين الكبار .
المتحدث بأسم رئاسة مايدعى اقليم ((كردستان)) برر هذا العمل الهمجي, بالخصوصية القومية الكردية, ومن ثمّ ألغاء كلّ مايرب العرب بالمدينة الكردية ؟!
حدثني أكثر من ضابط عراقي كبير خدم في مدينة اربيل في الاربيعينيات والخمسينيات من القرن الماضي مثبتا وقاطعا في حديثه لي : من انّ مدينة اربيل, وعند خدمتهم فيها – كعسكر- كانت تحمل الطابع التركماني, ومن هؤلاء الضباط الشيخ اللواء الركن عبد الامير عبيس, واللواء الركن مصطفى شريف , وغيرهم من ابناء الجيش العراقي الذي خدموا في مدينة اربيل .
المدينة – اربيل – وأن رغبت الاحزاب الكردية والملا مسعود برزاني بفصلها عن العراقيين العرب , تبقى مدينة اسلامية , كون انّ معظم من يعيش فيها من التركمان والاكراد والعرب يمثلون أغلبية اسلامية (( تبقى الاقليات غير المسلمة لاتمثل رقما يشار له في المدينة )) , وبالتالي فأن المدينة تحتفظ بطابع اسلامي , مثلما تحتفظ االفاتيكان بطابع مسيحي .
فالفاتيكان على سبيل المثال لم يغير اسماء حواري السيد المسيح لرغبة طليانية قومية او رغبة فرنسية او انكليزية قومية , فأسماء حواري السيد المسيح وأصحابه بقيت كما هي عليه , منذ ان نقلت اوربا الرسالة المسيحية عن الرومان والى الآن .
مسعود البرزاني يحارب الزمن ويحارب نفسه, في سبيل ان يضع له ولحزبه القبلي قدما في العراق الآشوري العربي التركماني ,
معتمدا على النهج الصهيوني الاستعماري في تغيير التأريخ وقلب الحقائق الوطنية العراقية التي تمثل حضارة أكثر من 12 الف عام في العراق العربي العمّوري السومري .
لانعرف حقيقية ماذا يريد ان يفعل مسعود البرزاني بتأريخ الحضارة العربية الاسلامية في اربيل ؟
فهل يريد أن يضع مقابل أسم الرسول العربي محمد – ص- أسم مايكل ؟
ماذا يريد ان يفعل السيد مسعود البرزاني ولجنته الصهيونية في شمال العراق لأسماء أكثر 4 آلاف جامع ومسجد اسلامي عربي يحمل اسماء اصحاب رسول الله ؟!
كيف سيتم تغيير اسماء الجوامع التي تحمل أسم الخليفة عمر ابن الخطاب, او عثمان او علي ؟!
فهل سيأخذ مثلا جامع ومسجد عمر ابن الخطاب أسم السفاح الكردي الشهير بدر خان ؟
هل سيتحول مسجد وجامع الرسول العظيم في أربيل الى جامع البرزاني الكبير؟!
ماذا سيفعل مسعود البرزاني بأسم نائب التحالف الكردي محمود عثمان ؟هل سيتحول أسم محمود عثمان الى ديفيد سلومان ؟
ماذ عن اسم مسعود برزاني نفسه , هل سيتحول أسم هذا المسعود حسب التوجه القومي الكردي في الابتعاد عن كلّ ماهو عربي وعراقي الى اسم : مستر هبي مسؤود ؟
ماذا يريد هذا الكاك المنتفخ جبنا وخيانة ورذيلة .....
لنفترض جدلا هنا انّ مسعود البرزاني قد نجح في تغيير اسماء الجوامع والمساجد في اربيل الى اسماء اجنبية او فارسية كردية ؟ نتسائل هنا ماذا سيفعل مسعود البرزاني لأسماء معظم ابناء الشعب الكردي المسلم الذي يحمل اسم عبد الله ومحمد وعمر وعلي ؟ّ! هل سيفرض مسعود البرزاني قرارا – في ظلّ حكومة الاحتلال الامريكي – على الشعب الكردي في تغيير أسمائهم العربية الاسلامية, خدمة للمصلحة الوطنية القومية العشائرية البرزانية في اربيل !
ماذا يريد مسعود البرزاني بحقّ السماء ......
هل يريد مسعود البرزاني سحق الشعب الكردي في المنطقة ؟
هل يريد هذا المسعود بالاحتلال وأسرائيل القضاء على أسم الاكراد – هذا الشعب الاسلامي الطيب – في المنطقة العربية والاسلامية ؟
هل يدرك مسعود البرزاني حجمه بعد خروج الاحتلال الامريكي من العراق ؟
هل يعرف مسعود البرزاني انّ جلاد وجزار بشتشان جلال طلباني لايطيقه ولا يستسيغه ولا يرى فيه الا صعلوكا وعميلا صغيرا, يعمل من اجل مصالحه وعشيرته البرازانية في شمال العراق , وفي اربيل تحديدا .
هل يدرك هذا الغرّ البرزاني من أنّه بين نيران ثلاث دول عظمى تنتظر الوقت المناسب لسحقه وسحق جحوشه في شمال العراق .
هل يدرك هذا البرزاني وغيره من داعمي تيار الامبريالية والصهيونية في العراق, انّ الولايات المتحدة وأسرائيل نفسها تستخدمهما لمرحلة آنية ,وأنّ هذه الدول ستسغني عنهم في الوقت المناسب .
هل يدرك مسعود برزاني أنّ تركيا تمثل قوة عظمى في المنطقة , وهي تسبقه بعلاقات كبيرة مع الولايات المتحدة وأسرائيل نفسها ؟
هل يدرك مسعود برزاني وغيره من جحوش البشمركة انّ دستور العراق ومقرارات المنطقة الخضراء هي استراتيجية أمريكية , يمكن للولايات المتحدة تغييرها في الوقت الذي تجد فيه مصالحها مهددة في العراق .
هل يدرك مسعود البرزاني انّ عقوده النفطية مع الشركات الاجنبية في التنقيب عن النفط شمال العراق لاتمثل بئرا ولو بحجم بئر صغير في جنوب العراق, وهي بالتالي لاتمثل أهمية حقيقية للشركات الاجنبية – اذا كان البرزاني يطمح من خلال عقوده مع الشركات الاجنبية الى حامية دولية – ومصالحها في بلد عضو ومؤسس للأمم المتحدة مثل العراق .
مسعود البرزاني يقود الشعب الكردي المسكين الى كارثة , والشعب الكردي العراقي يدرك حجم الكارثة التي يقوده لها الحزبان الكرديان .
هذا واقع لايمثل الاقلية الكردية في العراق , بقدر مايمثل حقيقية مؤلمة لكل الشعب العراقي في ظلّ الاحتلال الامريكي . للحديث بقية ......
< Message edited by Harry -- 10/16/2007 11:50:12 AM >
Thats an interesting article. It doesnt suprise me that Barzani and his followers are changing the names of Mosques and Churches in Arbil to Kurdish names. Their whole goal is to change the entire demographic profile so that in 50-100 years time, they will brainwash the generations to follow giving them the impression that the names have always been there and that 'Kurdistan' has always existed and that names of streets, buildings, Churches, Mosques are proof for historic claim. If they claim that anything between Mount Ararat the and the Euphratis River (half of Turkey, Armenia, Iran, Iraq, & Syria) is theirs then what do you expect?.
< Message edited by tigris81 -- 10/16/2007 10:27:36 AM >
My ex was in karachi for Ramadan to share this with his family. Hope all had a blessed Holy Season. God Bless, Have to get dinner, off topic (surprise, from me? HA LOL!!!) x to cook. Curry with my own spices, of course, no store purchased "curry powder" and Indian bread... Good stuff. later taters! Big mouth over and out. hugs
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the Euphratis River is for iraq only, syria and turkey has nothing to do with this river allah the mighty god created only for iraq (mesopotamia) and noah ark (ship) it is in mountain al judi (الجودي) iraqi mountain it has nothing to do with kurdistan or turkey it is only iraqi culture.
and also masood barazani (the monkey batani) guy also mentioned stupid and lying and not telling the truth just to steal more more more more.
No no I am not making fun of Iraqis but of those who think so superficially. Why should americans know about iraqis? what else should they know about iraqis and why our focus is still on those americans - the killers of women and children. If I see an american or hear their disgusting accent I go miles away. After all tell me please Calm when iraqis see a western on the streets "do they still crowd around chatting no matter how filthy he/she might be". Do they still think that these people are super-intelligent super humans who are just after human rights and justice and feeding the poor. Please check your awareness. Iraq's problem is not economy, man? This is typical thinking of traitors and mercenaries like Blackwater and Maliki who are both paid by the same employer.
Obviously you are NOT AWARE that some Americans Do CARe and do CARE deeply!!! I am one of those, I do NOT condone killing of Children/Women and Innocents period. This is just simply WRONG, injust and makes me ill. Some of "us" are aware of more than you may think. We have some issues here in this country to where it is becoming tough to practice "freedom of speech", these rights are being taken away slowly along with others, with the premise of "protection"...
It appears you have americans classified as uncaring, cold hearted killers, you are indeed INCORRECT sir.
There are indeed traitors in every country. Our world is in a "mess" more than anytime in history and it appears to be getting worse.
I would kindly please ask that you open your heart/eyes to see that not ALL of US are as you described.
Once again, some here understand more than you obviously are aware of..........................................
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"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell
I agree with your points (particularly about traitors and the messy world we live in), however I think Havalkaka was referring to the Bush administration and their supporters and the US army when he used the term 'Americans'.
Well Tigris, I wish the dude would clarify his statements more, it is a tad bit insulting to myself as I am NOT one of those types period.
Personally, as I have stated in the past, I have been around Muslims previously being married to one and have stated that they were some of the cleanest people I had ever met. I make a point of ALWAYS sticking up for them here in this country with the "false" assumptions some have. My big mouth I consider a GIFT from "the Man Upstairs/God" as I am not afraid to stand up for others and for what I feel is right.
This is something I have also passed to my children and am proud of them. They have always stood up for the underdog and taken those less fortunate under their wings throughout high school and beyond. I wish more had the B**** (opps can I put this, american slang harry/tigris, could mean anything, lol?)to do the same then we would have a far better world.
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well we hope they work together, whatever "they" are. old american song, oh boy, NOW Unc/Dad Harry will get after me...
"do your B_____ hang low, do they wobble 2 and fro... can u tie them in a knot can u tie them in a bow........................................ uh oh... big trouble, now i am
I think I'd better stop this nonsense.
r u laughing harry?
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well we hope they work together, whatever "they" are. old american song, oh boy, NOW Unc/Dad Harry will get after me...
"do your B_____ hang low, do they wobble 2 and fro... can u tie them in a knot can u tie them in a bow........................................ uh oh... big trouble, now i am
I think I'd better stop this nonsense.
r u laughing harry?
Forgive me for the delay, I just got off the floor, I fell on my hardwood floor laughing when my wife saw me, so she put a soft blanket for me to roll on, and I have been since.
well we hope they work together, whatever "they" are. old american song, oh boy, NOW Unc/Dad Harry will get after me...
"do your B_____ hang low, do they wobble 2 and fro... can u tie them in a knot can u tie them in a bow........................................ uh oh... big trouble, now i am
I think I'd better stop this nonsense.
r u laughing harry?
Forgive me for the delay, I just got off the floor, I fell on my hardwood floor laughing when my wife saw me, so she put a soft blanket for me to roll on, and I have been since.
Yes I have heard the song.
yep a song tis...glad i didn't get fired for this post. hugs you old goat... LOL
ps... u could be younger than i, many are now!
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i am sure it is somewhere, pretty silly, dorky!!! LOL i think it is "Do Your B____ hang low" good luck pure silliness, somex's laughter is the best medicine and God knows we all need it!
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ORIGINAL: YellowSunshine I wish more had the B**** (opps can I put this, american slang harry/tigris, could mean anything, lol?)
You mean a couple of sphearical shaped things working side by side?
Dudes, lets dispense with the polite banter and call it like it is. Balls are nothing to be ashamed of (after all nearly half the world's population has got a pair). The problem is that many have got um but don't use um.
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