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Iraqi100Percent -> The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/18/2007 5:33:44 PM)

Shabbab

I just love this hardvard educated prime minister of ours who calls himself Nuri. I just want to know one thing. Why every picture of Nuri al-Maliki on the internet is with his mouth open?

I love what he has accomplished in Iraq. It looks like from one Shia prime minister to another, we are building a stronger Iran opps I mean Iraq, day after day. His mouthpiece the Al Iraqia TV have two broadcasts, one for people in Iraq with real news, reminding them of the hell they are in and another broadcast for Iraqis in the USA showing them a totally different reality, fabricated news about how wonderful Iraq has become since the invasion.

keep selling your people and the country big mouth Nuri.

so can you tell me why every picture of nuri fanori is with his mouth open.



baghdadi -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/18/2007 11:58:51 PM)

Just like the new alliance, what new alliance? It is the same crimanals we have seen! The hell with IRAN  too why does the US and Iran determine the fate of Iraq.  IRAQ IS ANY ARAB COUNTRY ! NOT IRANIAN, KURISH, OR ANYTHING ELSE !



Lion of Babylon -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/19/2007 5:26:28 AM)

Maliki, Jaffari and their beloved Dawa party have proven one thing. They are not fit to run our country. All they have succeeded in doing is further dividing the country along sectarian lines. I'm afraid we might have to return to some kind of dictatorship to bring things into line. Sad but true.

The reason Maliki always has his mouth open in photos is he can't believe he is ruling the country. He always looks as if he is bemused by the whole thing. It would also be nice if he shaved once in a while. Its like he cant wait to grow an Iranian style beard but doesn't want to do it in case it gives off the wrong signals. [:D]



Calm -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/19/2007 6:09:22 AM)

LOB my friend you got it all wrong, he is just saying
DOHHHHHHHHHHHHH what's up duck?
The real problem in Iraq is the Al Qaida, and their so called Jihad against the whole world.  Anyone and anything that breathe, yet if america and the west wants to take out those people, I believe it can be done easily.#

I recently downloaded Googleearth.com and surprise surprise, I can find our house in Baghdad, with my brothers car parked in front of the side gate.  Our neighbours house, with their cars.  And those photos are for public use, I wonder what the military satalites can do!!!

I saw a report on the Mahdi Army on TV, I was disturbed terribly that they have taken law and order in their hands.  No courts, no judges, no the person is innocent until proven guilty.  Just point the gun to the head and fire.  Where is the Justice in that????

For those of you who are interested
www.googleearth.com



baghdadi -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/19/2007 7:56:22 AM)

Calm my friend these are Americans terms used continue the criminal occupation. I ask you did Iraq have such groups prior to this war? No, which tells me they brought them in to step up the mess so they continue to steal and destroy Iraq. Anyone for thinks the occupation forces came for peace or liberty to Iraq is crazy. Why does US call Iran there #1 enemy and Iran call the US the big devil, yet there are meeting for stabilize Iraq? They are actually fighting over who controls Iraq. Iranians are for friends of Iraq or Arabs. Iran the other day said that Bahrain is one of there provinces. The Maliki, Iranian, goes to Iran on 8-8-2007 the day Iraq ended the war with Iran to apologize! Has it happened before? Never, but Iraq today is run by desperate Americans and Iranians. The Badr militias, Madhi army, and the dirty political groups are all run by Iran. Arabs especially Iraqis need to wake up and realize Iran just wants to control Iraq and the Arab gulf.



baghdadi -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/19/2007 9:49:02 AM)

Again Irans goal is to occupy all Arabs lands, including Iraq.  Saddam was right Iran is Iraqs enemy.  The Puppet gov't in Iraq does not do one thing without permission or approval of the Iranian criminals.  Yet Basra, Baghdad and other parts of Iraq continue to be occupied not only from Brits, Americans and 1000 times worse the Iranians!



Iraqi100Percent -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/19/2007 10:44:46 AM)

baghdadi

this is the aliance to keep the power of the damn chair they are all caring for. They want that chair and nothing else, whatever keeps their majority in power. They want to create a government of reconciliation and on the other hand they say, the door is open if you like to join.

maliki's recent attempt to split the sunni by going directly to tikrit to get them to support him is another desprate attempt by maliki and his bunch. These guys don't get it, it's not about sunni, shia, kurd but it's about iraqis and iraq.

now maliki is moving around making look like in the month of august he's going to bring everything together before the report that's due mid sept. in washington. He's going to run around with his mouth open between iran, syria, washington and at the end he will plead and say, look how much I have accomplished in one month but I need more time.

the us is not going to wait for his sorry ass, they will pull out and let the iraqis liberate the so called green zone, which is actually what they are governing only. Saddam was the medicin for such hothala unfortuntly, the only thing that unites the people in this country is a secular government with nothing but a nationalistic identity, not a secterian iranian style government.

the sunni bloc should have been more prepared and more organized but they are getting there, thanks for nori's open mouth, he's making all these groups to unite under one slogan "you either shave it off or get the hell out of the kitchen"

the whole problem was from the start to divide the election process based on secterian blocs it made iran and kurd push their people into other areas in iraq to get more representation while sunis and minorities were busy protecting their own from qaeda and usa. The us made their biggest mistake by thinking that the problems in iraq were caused by sunna and qaeda, not knowing the real issues there from iranian shia and kurdish rebels not wanting to be part of iraq and that's why you see this latest attempt by big mouth nori maliki and his kurdish rebels trying to make sure that they will run the country by majority parliment only, a dictatorship style, "if you don't like it, shut up"

i swea if i know maliki's mailing address i would have bought him a set of gilett senson rasors and sent it to him, complement from real iraqis to iranian-iraqi



sadiq2006 -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/19/2007 11:01:54 AM)

baghdadi

you are 100% in everything you said excatly 100%[sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=smiley2.gif][sm=smiley2.gif][sm=smiley2.gif][sm=smiley2.gif][sm=smiley2.gif][sm=smiley2.gif] not only iran and america want to control but also those CRAZY KURDS AND THOSE STUPID MONKEYS MASOOD BARAZANI AND JALAL TALIBANI WANT TO CONTROL IRAQ AND STEAL EVERYTHING FROM IT.

BY THE WAY HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT NURI AL MALIKI HIS ALWAYS OPENING LIKE A (MONKEY MOUTH) OHOHOHOHOHOH THE THE MONKEYS SPEAK.[sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley8.gif][sm=smiley8.gif][sm=smiley8.gif][sm=smiley8.gif][sm=smiley8.gif][sm=smiley8.gif] 

OH ALSO HE IS A CLOWN.



Calm -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/19/2007 3:29:19 PM)

The divide between Shiat and Sunni came with Saddam, to control the country, is to divide it into smaller groups and treat every group accordingly.
And I may day, he succeeded.  Those he bribed and those he put the fear of god inside them, and those who he twisted on his little finger, and so on.
Where the american and british failed, they made that divide even wider.

I don't believe any of the forgien armies want to stay in Iraq one day extra, it is draining their money, it is against local and world opinion.  I believe if we establish peace, then they will leave.

What we cannot allowed is allowing the Turbins with their gangs and so called armies to rule and dectate the balance of power.  It will destroy Iraq, and take it backward many centuries.

I also would like to see that the Sunnies and Shiats join together to get rid of the Al-Qaida in Iraq, which is the cause of most of the trouble by killing innocent people from both sides.

We need Ayad Allawie back and we need him now.



Iraqi100Percent -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/19/2007 8:51:07 PM)

Calm, that's a good execuse for the current government + americans + british + united nations, let's blame every problem of our own on someone who is dead so we don't take responsibility for our own actions.

next time, it's maliki's turn right? and that's how it is. We bend down for the highest bidder and walk over our own dead from our own brothers and sisters.


very typical response from those who brought the americans to our land!

let's bring hell on so iraqis can settle with the best of the worst



Lion of Babylon -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/19/2007 10:23:35 PM)

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very typical response from those who brought the americans to our land!


Dude, who are you refering to when you made the above statement?



Iraqi100Percent -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/19/2007 11:49:44 PM)

Lion, I was referring to Calm, peace dude



Iraqi100Percent -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/19/2007 11:54:47 PM)

Lion, I read your comment again and "those" was referring to the Iraqis who collaborated with the americans to fabricate lies left and right to make an execuse for the americans to invade iraq.

those are the people who have become multi-millionares over night, payback for their contributions

the iraqi mess didn't happen by americans only, there was and still is an iraqi side to it that was legitimized by the corrupt elections in iraq and funded by the billions of iraqi and american money.



Calm -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/20/2007 12:18:19 AM)

I didn't know I had a hand in the history of Iraq, as I brought the occupation forces in.  YOU ARE VERY SMART AND INTELLIGENT.
I have been writing in the form for a long time, and never ever wanted to see any occupation forces in Iraq.  Read what I have written, understand it properly, then apologise to me for insulting me.
Obviously you wouldn't because that is the typical behaviour of 99% of our people, they do know how to say sorry, they forgot how to talk, they forgot how to human, and the gun is louder than there voice.
I don't know what religion you are, but are you prepared to sit and talk to your opposite fellow Iraqi no matter what religion he is, sit and talk.  I doubt it very much, an eye for and eye, and the story of tit for tat continues.
Sorry brother, I want all the occupation forces out, but I want all the meletia force out first.



Iraqi100Percent -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/20/2007 12:49:09 AM)

so what you are saying that you want the americans out and you want ayad allawi in charge.

why ayad allawi? he's chevron's broker in the middle east. do you honestly think that allawi is looking after your people's interest? wake up, plus if you are blaming everything on saddam, what makes you think that allawi, who was trained under saddam and then under the british and americans to be any better?

please wake up, yah he's better than nuri afandi but is that the best iraqis deserve for what they have gone through? you obviously think this is what they deserve, I differ from you by saying that iraqis deserve 1000000 times better that scums in the green zone.



Calm -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/20/2007 3:32:08 AM)

With respect.  It seems to me that you have a weird way of understanding what people are saying.

Tell me who would you put in charge of the country? 

I want to see all the Shiats and the Sunnis kiss and make up, and join hand in hand with the american to get Al-Qaida out of Iraq.  Then when that is achieved, we can ask the americans nicely to leave us alone.  And they will, because of the pressure of public opinion there, in their own country.
Do you think our army and police are well equiped to deal with any situation? The answer is no, we are not ready to stop Iran if they wish to invade Iraq.  We are not ready to control all the borders, in fact, we are not ready to do anything without outside help.  We lost our scientists, doctors, engineers, and many other skilled people.  They will come back and help when they feel safe to do so, but it takes some time, maybe a year, maybe ten years.  Home is home no matter what.
Now do you understand my point of view.

We need every help to rebuild our country.  We need politicians who are respected in and outside Iraq, and we need to work with them and help them to achieve their goals.  And not sit on our sorry asses and call them names and criticise them without a sold proof.

Further more, everyone was part of the Baath party to be able to survive, but many left the country because of that, many who were pressurised to join and escaped, were targeted by the mob and killed or injured.



tigris81 -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/20/2007 7:16:09 AM)

 
I agree with alot of the above posts.

I see Iran more of a threat than the US, Israel, and other states. The US presence in Iraq wont last forever and it is a military presence. The Iranian influence and presence in Iraq on the other hand seems more permanent because it has involved colonisation. There has been many reports of Iranians settling in southern Iraq and in towns near the Iranian border but in Iraqi territory. Alot of them are taking advantage of the poor security situation that is forcing Iraqi to flee their homes and farms and being approached by Iranians who give them a low but acceptable offer for their land. In some cases people are driven out of their land at gun-point by militias loyal to Iran (and so-called parties loyal to Iran I should say).
This has been going on for 3-4 years and it has come to a point that Arabs in Najaf are upset and have started to admit that life under Saddam was better.
It is the Iranian dream to control southern Iraq not only because of its fertile soil but also because of its religious importance. How long will this Iranian influence last? Well, It is only a question of how long the Iranian regime will stay in power.
You are probebly aware of the fact that thousands of former Iraqi army generals, officers, and pilots have been murdered since the fall of the last regime. This is the work of the Iranians who have been desperatly seeking revenge on Iraq for its war against it during the 1980's. Anyone who fought against Iran (doing nothing but serving the country and many of whom were forced to do so) is being slaughtered and the puppet regime (some of whom played a part in abusing Iraqi POWs in Iran during the war) are aware of this.
The same applies with all the Iran-war military monuments that have been taken down since 2003 as well as the statue of Al Mansur, whom the turban heads took down because they thought that Al Mansur was an insult to them and their beliefs. They have screwed up the capital and its identity.

The Kurds are also playing a part in the Iranian influence in Iraq. Alot of Iranian agents and members of the Revolutionary Guard are based in Northern Iraq.

There needs to be a strong Iraqi central government led by non-sectarians. Maliki, Jaafery, Al-Hakim, and all those Iranian-worshipping turban heads need to vanish. Someone like Ayad Allawi is needed at a time like this and there is need to bring back some baathists to the government, army, interior ministry, and intelligence. Its weird but its the only option I see to free Iraq from this mess. Those turban heads will be the first to run away to Iran once some Baathists are back. The Iraqi army and intelligence need to re-gain influence in the north in order to stabalize Iraq because the north is out of control and is filled with foreign agents that are there to create chaos and to destabalize Iraq for their own purposes.




sadiq2006 -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/20/2007 6:56:28 PM)

Mr. calm
 
The divide between Shiat and Sunni came with from 1400 years ago after the death of prophet mohammed (peace be upon him) and to choose who is going to rule islam is it abu baker al sediq or ali bin aby talib, that's when it started not at the time of saddam hussain.  



sadiq2006 -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/20/2007 7:01:13 PM)

tigris81
 
the kurds are always playing a part in the Iranian influence in Iraq from 100 years ago from the world war 1 and 2 and they are continuing it.
 
all the world wants to get revenge on iraq and its great civilization, because iraq it is not called (cradle of human civilization) for nothing.
 
it is trully the greatest land in the world that is why they want to destroy it especially iran and the kurds.



Iraqi100Percent -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/20/2007 9:28:58 PM)

Calm, it seems that you forgot that we had a country and everyone was living in peace with each other, let's say to a great extent compared to what we have today. It seems like those huthalak that came to iraq on backs of the americans and iranians are wishing for a dictator to govern like saddam, with the exception this new dictator has a so called doctor's degree and 100% american puppet.

so if that's your proposed solutuon, let me ask you why destroy a whole nation when you want to go back to what you had to start with?



baghdadi -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/20/2007 10:07:58 PM)


I tell you want will happen and history has proven it. The occupation forces will sooner or later negotiate with the real Iraqi resistance not some foreigners or people who have no influence. Then you will see Iraq remerge the Iranians do not want this because Iraq again will be strong. These political games are really an act of desperate times for the occupation forces and the Iranians. So in the interest of Iraqis a strong central government is much better than this weak federal garbage. The Kurds and there Iranian counterparts in fake government want a weak Iraq for the own agendas!



Lion of Babylon -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/20/2007 11:38:12 PM)

To 100%
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so if that's your proposed solutuon, let me ask you why destroy a whole nation when you want to go back to what you had to start with?


Dude, having a dictator type government ruling the country till it re-establishes security is not such a far fetched solution. In that time they can also educate the public about elections and how the process works to prepare them for the time when we are ready to have proper elections. It'll take time but it would be better than having a corrupt democratically elected government turn the people against democracy for ever. Anyway, looking back on some of your older posts it appears that you supported the retention of Saddam as president so why object so strongly to this solution? Alawi may be an American puppet but he has power in his convictions and will not bow down to the Militias that are ruining our country. In any case you have already stated that all the current government running the green zone are US/Iranian puppets so whats the big deal?



sadiq2006 -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/21/2007 12:30:05 PM)

iraqi100percent

you to know that teaching the nations that do not know what is dimocricy or freedom it ineeds years and years and years so the people can except it and go along with it and it takes time, but there are other people who still want to kive a life as a dictator life so they can rule other people's life becausethey think they are god's in their own crazy culture.  



Iraqi100Percent -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/21/2007 8:35:26 PM)

sadiq, Iraqis who facilitated this war before it took place were saying that Iraqis can handle democracy and Iraq will be just like a western democracy like Germany and Japan. These are Iraqi scumbags that had nothing in mind but to support the tons of lies to sell this war and destroy a country and kill and displace millions of iraqis. These are now members of the so called Iraqi government, living in the green zone.



Lion of Babylon -> RE: The Nuri al-Maliki's Thread (8/21/2007 10:20:01 PM)

Dude, you didn't reply to my post? [8|]



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