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FlyByBaghdad -> Who is rulling the world?? (7/24/2007 7:13:39 AM)

Dear all, have you ever wondered that who is truly rulling the world, who could justifies all this evil which is being done under different types of Banneres like, God, Democracy, Freedom etc. Long Live Iraq and long live Humanity, Long Live Freedom of speech , Freemasons and illuminaties are in the bottom of the Sptatank, at the heart of our religioun is our politics, Long liv Mahtma Ghandi[:D]



YellowSunshine -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/24/2007 8:18:25 AM)

FlyBy Bro, SATAN is the ruler of this world, simple!

That is why we have such a bloody mess.

Dah.

AND he of course enjoys it...  do we all throw up now or later?



Calm -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/24/2007 10:54:34 AM)

When I was in Crete last month, I met this old person in a Cafe Taverna.  He looked like he was 120 yrs old, but he was only 95.  He spoke the queens english, thats because he was english, and lived in Greece for the last 80 yrs.  Anyway, surprise surprise we started talking politics, he said that the world is controlled by jews.  There are some 136 MP in Parliment who are Jews, in America they have an incredible influence, more than the Catholics.  Anyway there are also 40 billionairse who between them control what the jews couldn't control. 
Is there something fishy going on here? you might ask, and then you might not. 
Yes there is. 
None of them gave me any of this wealth, not a bit.  Seriously talking, he was right 100% bless his heart,  though I hated his homemade wine, tasted like paint remover.




FlyByBaghdad -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/24/2007 1:33:42 PM)

Dear Calm, Jews are the mother of all smoke screens, the true ruler is some one else, some one worshiped in places like Bohimian Grove, yes it is true that no body did give us anything[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]I hope that in the future and that is post 1984, we would be able to have a share of that wealth[8|][8|][8|][8|][8|]



YellowSunshine -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/24/2007 7:14:02 PM)

FlyBy,Calm.  Well I indeed need to dust off old dvd's & research the lovely Boh. Grove Place that many of these "types" frequent!  Very very very interesting indeed.  Share of "that" wealth, I am not holding my breath, of course u r refering to Iraq having a share, X will indeed tell the TRUE story.  Not very positive about these "types" we Love so much.  They have a different plan that the rest of us that are indeed the SANE ones. 
One word comes to my mind, "HYPOCRITE'S!"

[:'(]




FlyByBaghdad -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/25/2007 1:15:04 PM)

I agree 100%[sm=smiley20.gif][sm=smiley32.gif]



sadiq2006 -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/26/2007 9:45:00 AM)

flybybaghdad
 
the mosaad israel are ruling the world with their (satan devlish mind) and want to destroy the human not mention general (mohafic) muslim or who call them muslims are trying to destroy the islam name and reputation and the evil world mind.

THEY SAY THE BIG LEADERS WITH THEIR EVIL MIND THAT IF YOU WANT TO RULE THE WORLD YOU HAVE TO RULE THE MIDDLE EAST AND IF YOU WANT TO RULE THE MIDDLE EAST YOU TO RULE MESOPOTAMIA (IRAQ) AND CONQURED IT BY ANY CAUSE AND ANY REASON.  



jukka -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/26/2007 10:43:57 AM)

Wrong question. The right question is WHAT is ruling the world. Ideologies rule the world. Currently liberal democracy is ruling the world. Islamic fundamentalism is challenging liberal democracy. But eventually fundamentalism will lose because they are close minded, not technologically orientated etc.. in the future US will just send 100.000 humanoid robots to kill all the terrorists. AK47s and suicide bombs just arent good enough.

About the jews.. i think that jews are the most intelligent people on the planet (i myself am not a jew btw). And they are as a people very influential in the US and Russia for example. A large amount of jews hold very powerful positions in powerful countries. Like in the US Paul Wolfowitz was the leader of world bank, he was a jew.. Alan Greenspan of US central bank was a jew, his follower was a jew, Russias Vice president is a jew, Anatoli Tshubais is a, Madeleine Albright is a jew, Henry kissinger is a  jew.. etc. Kasparov is a Jew, Einstein was a jew. Lets face it Jews are simply brighter :)

But im not a conspiracy theorist. I dont think theres a single organization of all jews who controls everything. Jews arent a one single group agreeing on everything. Its childish to think that so many people agree on everything and form a secret organization or some crap... Protocols of the Elders of Zion was a hoax and it is proven as such.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion
http://wpherald.com/articles/1805/1/Commentary-Faulty-Jewish-Muslim-comparison/Comparing-Nobel-winners.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_democracy



YellowSunshine -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/26/2007 11:17:05 AM)

"What is this that I hear, an independent that arises--a switch in power? God says, listen, righteousness shall prevail in the streets of America, and in the White House, nothing will be determined without My counsel. They shall plan but ultimately, it is I," says the Lord, "that will determine the outcome. There will be a very strange move of My Spirit amongst the children of this nation. Come to me like a little child, and I will raise you up. There will be praise in summer. There will be rain in summer. There will be joy in summer. I'll send the rain and the wind. The spirits of men will pray, the spirits of men will rejoice. It's the end of a season, the beginning of something everyone's been waiting for. America, your greatest hour is upon you."
Kim Clement
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YellowSunshine -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/26/2007 11:22:11 AM)

Along with the above, which I do BELIEVE, as the Spirit of the LORD has indeed been dealing with me/others as well (according to HIS plan) in one big way, have not experienced this to THIS (tho. he has NEVER forsaken me) degree since I was a child...I do believe that justice, fairness, etc., will extend to other nations.  That AMERICA will no longer be the Dictator of WOE that it has/is at present.

Let us all pray on this.

hugs



jukka -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/26/2007 11:24:50 AM)

YS what really sucks about the US is the overreligiousity. Secular countries always do much better (like Japan, France, Sweden). Bush thinks gods talking to him. He thinks hes on a holy mission or something. Sigh. Cant you people grow up? 



YellowSunshine -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/26/2007 11:43:50 AM)

Jukka, Bush is just a *nsan# idiot!  That the people in America elected, because they enjoy their baby food.  Now look at the messes we have!  I have a right to my Christian views, my friend.  Also, FYI, I AM GROWN UP! I do realize I often perhaps may appear to tread on dangerous ground on this site, as many Muslim's think women r problems in these areas.  I am Different than most, Praise God for this!  Many friends/family think I am nuts, they do NOT get many issues that are indeed extremely important in this day and age.  Would rather watch their nonsense on TV, eat their MacDonalds, etc.. 
Take care Jukka, God Bless you and yours today and always.
me



YellowSunshine -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/26/2007 11:48:06 AM)

Jukka, also, I do understand more than you know.  I was married to a Pakistani, my first marriage.  When my $ ship that sunk at sea returns I have plans.  Plans to change my name back to his, for my other last names do NOT fit.  This does NOT mean that I am still married to him, or that I have converted my faith.  That other name just fits and not like O'jay's glove either.



jukka -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/26/2007 11:57:11 AM)

Thanks YS. You sure have the right to have your views. And im guessing people on this forum are smart iraqis not some **** fanatics who would like to whip you.

Do you think the US founding fathers intended to print "in god we trust" to the US currency? Do you think they wanted the religious lobby to have such enormous power? US constitution has been twisted.. not least its spirit of secularism.

And.. during cold war you peole heard such negative things about socialism, propaganda against goverment intervention etc. Look what its got you. A screwed up country. You americans have been brainwashed.  In your country a woman was dumbed to the street to die because she didnt have enough money to pay for health insurance. What an insane country. Man your country is really ****ed up. Poorer countries solved their health care dilemma 50 years ago. Ok, pure socialism sucks, but pure capitalism sucks bad. You Americans should aim for some kind of welfare state and recognize that there are also collective responsibilities not just personal liberties. And your country is not even the most free or the most safe in the world. And not even the most rich per capita. And youre falling behind all the time. 3 million people in jail, kids cant read etc. You wont be a superpower very long I can promise you this. China will drive past you :P

And for the record im not anti-american.. its the stupidity that pisses me off.



YellowSunshine -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/26/2007 12:06:21 PM)

JUKKA, MY DEAR MAN, one word... "YEPPERS"
me
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stupid country at present it correct.  stupid is as stupid does!



FlyByBaghdad -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/26/2007 2:26:13 PM)

Dear Jukka, thanks for your reply, but I couldn’t help myself to ask some questions; what is your definition of liberal democracy?? And what is the extent or limits of this so called liberal democracy?? Does branding or tagging people is part of this democracy?? Is raping and torturing people in the prisons, bombing them, killing them and using Depleted Uranium shells is part of this democracy?? Do you think Hitler was advocating liberal democracy, what he used to call the French resistance? Did he call them insurgents and terrorist?? Or how did he brand the Jews at that time?? What is your definition of fundamentalism?? Do you think we could call George W Bush or Tony Blair as religious fundamentalists?? And can you consider them as close minded?? What is Nazism?? Do you think harassing, tagging, watching people just because they are Muslims could be branded as Nazism?? Or using the one look sufficient enough to silence them?? Once you have the term, you either with us or against us then you should agree that we are not speaking liberalism anymore.   Thanks for acknowledging the rule of Fundamentalist Christianity in modern day American policy; this will prove that there is no separation between church and state with respect to the current administration, secularism is out of the window. The humanoids are great lets hope that they are not Paedophiles or rapists and they don’t know how to torture or how to take naked photographs of prisoners.                 You did mention all these names which did not include the American Jewish ambassadors all around the world, with respect to intelligence of the Jews well, not quite!! As you picture them, Henry Kissinger is a Jew as well yes true as you said, this guy is so great, I mean the greatest of all,  he is the only one who puts and explains the true agendas behind what you call a conspiracy theory or a global gathering, When he was the secretary of state in a meeting with Mr. Mohammed Hassanin Haikal in the Al Ahram newspaper office in Cairo, Mr. Kissinger explains that ‘people think that my loyalty is to the American administration, well, I have to say that my loyalty is to my people’. I think it is clear what he means by ‘my people’, he also has a great phrase which I always remember, he says, ‘’ If you control food you control people, If you control Oil you control continents, and if you control money you control the world’’, how do you achieve this control??? I dare you to answer this question, after answering this question I want you to give me a clear example, yes only one, where and when the exact blue print of this policy was implemented. So we are dealing with control freaks who think that they have the right or indeed rights to your life. I don’t think the American forefathers imagined that one day the name of (MASON) will be on the one dollar bill or indeed the all seeing eye, or the owl, or the New world order. Oh, yes you said that you did not believe in conspiracy theory. Another advice which I want to give is Wikipedia is a very bad source of information because anybody could change, add or indeed edit the available material to achieve the desired or required picture.  The world which we live in, has no theory it is all conspiracy, feel free to comment on any part, I would be glad to hear your reply to the questions inside this post.  After posting this I think tonight my way will be lined up with colourful faces[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]            



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/26/2007 10:31:01 PM)

quote:


‘’ If you control food you control people, If you control Oil you control continents, and if you control money you control the world’’


Cool quote!



jukka -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/27/2007 9:53:28 AM)

Hi Fly

Hey even war is possible under democracy. Officially US is using soft torture (which is approved) but reality im guessing theyre really torturing important captives. So its not a crime until they get caught by someone. Tagging and surveilling suspicious people is ok. They of course need permissions to do this stuff. How else should they capture terrorists? Wouldnt they be stupid if they didnt use spying and torturing to get the terrorists?

Jews got a lot of money and influence but they dont have 1 secret organization or something like that. There are even jews who deny the holocaust. Of course some rich jews in the US want to help Israel. But its just human nature not a conspiracy.

I think Bush is somekind of a fundamentalist, not so sure about Blair, he seems smarter.

I didnt quite understand what you were getting with your Kissinger stuff. Even if the Jews controlled all the media, banks, politics, they still should persuade the population to wage war. And war doesnt happen just like that in countries like US and Israel. You need really good reasons for war and if Saddam Hussein had complied with the reasonable demands he was given Iraq would have not had war.

Wikipedia is a good source of information. It has been rated as reliable. Yes some moron can temporarily alter stuff but people see and fix it fast.



YellowSunshine -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/27/2007 1:08:55 PM)

Fly, LOB, "Jukebox" (teasing u, only), this is what this is about!  Great information and discussions going on.  Applause!!!
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YellowSunshine -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/27/2007 1:09:55 PM)

oh, appears i am the cheerleader.
lol
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FlyByBaghdad -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/27/2007 3:04:34 PM)

Dear Jukka, since the entire subject of discussion was based on Liberal democracy, and personally, I don’t think that in a liberal democracy the word torture would even exist. With respect to surveillance do you acknowledge that in your so called liberal democracy there would be miscarriages in terms of targeting suspect as you say?, I mean accusing someone and then discovering that he was innocent after all?? What kind of measures are in place to ensure that something like this does not happen?? And how the system will help that some one to rebuild his shattered life, or in your so called liberal democracy you treat them as expendable subjects?? ((as the Australian case – referring to the Indian doctor who was released without charge today)), and if (god forbids) that expendable subjects dares to open his mouth in protest, what do you do in a Liberal democracy?? Target him by Smear campaign and total isolation, follow him with unleashed dogs around the city, or deprive him of employment?? Which one?? I assume you just like me, you share the believe of there is no place of Thuggery and Bullish behaviour, in a liberal democracy!!, or maybe you don’t??   with respect to the decision of war I have to say that I don’t agree with your point, for example, In Iraq in 1980 Saddam Hussien and through his security apparatus staged an attack on a university in Baghdad, and used this incident as a pre text for launching a war against Iran, examples could be seen all over the history. He controlled the media and even he had the western Media by his side – you just need to go back to any American newspaper between 1980-1988 and see the official version of the American stand with regards to Iraq. Saddam was nothing but (a ****) with a twist, and what I mean he was (the west **** in Baghdad)- I don’t want to go in details in this point because all intelligent Iraqis know it very well. He (I mean Saddam) once said, that, ‘’WE CAME TO POWER BY AN AMERICAN TRAIN AND WE WOULD LEAVE THE POWER BY AN AMERICAN TRAIN’’, Dear Jukka you say conspiracy theory, and I would say it is all conspiracy without theory.  You did not comment on the One dollar Bill, if you do so I would like to see some comments with respect to the Latin written date in the bottom of that Pyramid as well, what does it resembles?. If you control Media Like SKY TV as an example, not only you could sell a war, you sell the moon, you could demonise people, you change the truth in a way that suits you. By the way do you know who owns Al Jazeera TV[8|]?? It is Fox News, who own Fox?? I leave you to answer that as well. It is all about psychology once you control how people think, and then you have no problem in waging 10 wars at the same time, as you say this website is for Iraqi intelligent members and I don’t think that you doubt the intelligence of the Iraqi people. I would like you to think on Henry Kiesinger point, because that is the way which I like to write, I want people to think!!! Because after all this is the only point which differentiates Humans with brains from Human without Brains. A piece of advice, in any discussion try to answer the points made one by one, don’t skip any part because it weakens your stand with respect to the point that you are trying to make or you are acknowledging that point. Which on?? Are you scared to comment?? Man, you live in a Liberal Democracy[;)], The thread of who is ruling the world is more appropriate with respect to this discussion[:D].   FreeMasons=iluminaties=Ba3thy=Nazi=Zionists=Salafi=Wahabi= Fundamentalists= stinky Garbage.   Long live freedom of speech, Long live Mahatma Ghandi[8|]            



sadiq2006 -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (7/28/2007 11:02:25 AM)

''If you control food you control people, If you control Oil you control continents, and if you control money you control the world''.


Yes you are right about that.  



sadiq2006 -> RE: Who is rulling the world?? (8/7/2007 6:46:56 PM)

jukka
 
you are saying (About the jews.. i think that jews are the most intelligent people on the planet) yes so than destroy every culture in any place on the planet earth do they can rule anything and everything. 



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