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Calm -> What dirty game is played now? (7/14/2007 9:11:45 PM)

The situation in Iraq is out of control except for small pockets in the country where this sectarian war hasn't reached.
A week ago PM Maliki told the Iraqis to pick up arms and defend themselves.  That was a clear admission that the American army, Iraqi army and police are not in control never been, and will never be. 
And now he declared that we don't need the Americans anymore, and the Iraqi army is well capable of doing the job.
I have nothing against the man, he was brought in and put there expecting the jigsaw puzzle will fall into place.  That did not happen, because the man isn't experience enough to lead a country like Iraq.
His back rubbing and massaging with different militia mullahs brought him to annouce this crazy idea. 
I never came across anyone who changes his mind so many times.
If he thinks he could hand the power to the man with the turbin, he certainly has more than one gun pointed at him.
Al-Sadr wants 100% control of Iraq.



Lion of Babylon -> RE: What dirty game is played now? (7/16/2007 11:38:37 AM)

Zorba dude. Heres a report that will interest you.

Saudi Suspects Overwhelm Iraqi Legal System
Iraqi Official: 160 Saudi Suspects Tried, Hundreds More in Prison Awaiting Trial
 
Riyadh, Jul 15, (VOI) – Over 160 Saudis were tried in Iraq and hundreds are still awaiting trial, Iraqi National Security Advisor Muwafaq al-Rubaie said in an interview with the Jeddah-based Okaz newspaper. On the official number of Saudis in Iraq, al-Rubaie revealed that hundreds of Saudis have entered Iraq after the U.S-led invasion in 2003.
 
"Many of them were killed in suicide operations and others are still being held in Iraqi prisons and detention camps, in addition to those killed during the past four years," he added. "The issue was open for discussion with Saudi officials and we set up a hotline with them to follow up on developments," al-Rubaie said in reference to Saudi prisoners in Iraq. Commenting on terrorism-inciting fatwas (religious edicts), al-Rubaie said that both sides agreed on the necessity of condemning fatwas justifying or promoting terrorism.
 
During the interview, al-Rubaie indicated that Iraq's stability is part and parcel of the region's stability, adding, "What threatens Iraq's security will directly threaten Saudi Arabia's."
 
He said that most of the recruits for armed groups in Iraq are Saudis who came from neighboring countries.
 
"These groups receive training in Iraq and return to Saudi Arabia to threaten Saudi civilians," he said.
 
Describing the visit of an Iraqi security delegation that he led to Saudi Arabia last week as a success, al-Rubaie said the delegation met with high-ranking security and political officials and discussed ways to bolster security cooperation between the two countries.



YellowSunshine -> RE: What dirty game is played now? (7/16/2007 2:13:09 PM)

Oh Calm, It "appears" many in power in this world at present chg their minds often.  And So IT IS.
GAG
me



FlyByBaghdad -> RE: What dirty game is played now? (7/16/2007 2:57:48 PM)

I dont know why it is always Al Sader which is been blamed for all the wrong doings in Iraq?????[8|]is how it always goes, always target the weak, No , No we dont want to upset the wealthy!! If the Americans want to leave the are wellcome, if they want to stay while keeping a weak central government, well that is not an option either, For the past 4 years, there has been numerous calls for arming the Iraqi military, but unfortunatly all these calls did fall on deaf ears, the thing which has to be realized is, sooner or later this army has to take responsiblity for the security of the country.Why do you want to keep the Iraqi army weak???[:D][8|] because a strong army will eleminate the need for the foriegn presence in the country, will , we dont want this , so , let's keep them grilling[;)]
the thing which some people have to undersstand is, IF THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ DO SELECT TURBINS THEN YOU HAVE NO OPTION BUT TO RESPECT THAT CHOICE, WHY , BECAUSE IT IS THEIR COUNTRY AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE AS THEY WISH IN THAT PEICE OF LAND. And if the trend of thinking is that Ba3they OR ex Ba3thy figures will return to rule as they wish implementy some bodies agenda like Saddam, well, I have to say happy dreams[:D] I fully support Al MAliki, and God Bless him. Long Live Iraq and long live the unity of the Iraqi people.  



FlyByBaghdad -> RE: What dirty game is played now? (7/16/2007 3:05:05 PM)

Saudies , well, let's thank prince Bander, apparently he is giving up his presence in wealthy(Message houses) and horse racing clubs and found a new hobby, buying fire crackers and clowns to light up the skies of Baghdad, this Wahabi and Salafi Doctorin will be dealt with the strongest possible means ever. God Bless Al Maliki and Iraq.



Calm -> RE: What dirty game is played now? (7/16/2007 5:32:37 PM)

Dear Fly
I have nothing against any race, religion or country.  We all have the right to live, in PEACE anywhere in the world, without intruding on the freedom of the individuals.  Dectating to the masses on how to behave, what to wear, what to read, what to sell in the shops, what to drink, and what to eat, not forgetting how to live, isn't democracy.  A Sadr isn't a weak man, but the son and the nephew of some of the most intelligent leaders in Iraq history.  Thats all he is with respect, and those turbin people, yes they are part of the society, their job is religious, and they better stay away from politics.  The two together is the work of evil.
There are many mistakes made since the invasion, but its no excuse for the killing of thousands of people.  The lack of experience in governing the country shows wherever you go in the country.
A successful government should have sorted communications. enforced 100% water and electricity.  Major clean up of all cities, towns and village carried by its own people, and enforcing the rebuilding of essential government departments.  What we had wasn't enough to kick start the economy.  We needed jobs and we got none, we needed law and order, we got one big joke.  We needed democracy, we got yet another form of dectatorship.  Few men controling masses, like the mafia, but on a disorganised way.
I gather you are a Shiat, when Ali was killed, it was a christian who covered Ali's body by his to stop the arrows.
So whats the way forward? I don't know, Al-Qaida wanted civil war, and they got in the name of Islam.  So who is the intelligent here who would stand up and get the Shiat and the Sunnie's to shake hand and defend iraq, not from the americans and Allies, but from those extremist.
God bless you, and bless Iraq



Lion of Babylon -> RE: What dirty game is played now? (7/16/2007 10:22:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FlyByBaghdad

I dont know why it is always Al Sader which is been blamed for all the wrong doings in Iraq?????


FlyBy bro. Heres one of the reasons.

MEHDI ARMY TRAINING CHILDREN
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d83_1184301592



Calm -> RE: What dirty game is played now? (7/17/2007 1:00:15 AM)

Thats what I call civilization.  We are building for the future.  Every country in the world teaches its children to read and write, science, technology, art, computers, and most of all how to live and love the land they born to.

Every country protect their children from evil, and work with them hand in hand until the day where some will go to universities and learn more to help plan the country's future, while others might work on farms, factories, and public services.

And our weak Sadr, is teaching his children to kill, and kill, and kill in the name of Islam and God.

PS since when god needs men to do his work for him?



zimzim -> RE: What dirty game is played now? (7/17/2007 3:20:13 AM)

This is sick and discusting. [X(] These poor children are brainwashed and they have no chance in life. The ppl who are responsible are not muslimor christian or kurd. They are devils doing the devils work. [:(][:(][:(]



FlyByBaghdad -> RE: What dirty game is played now? (7/17/2007 6:12:23 AM)

Dear Calm, thanks for your reply, the major players in the political arena are all to blame, I am not defending any part or a group, what I am saying is, their is a clear drive to put the entire blame on a group of people in Iraq(Mahdi army) and this is not good or right, it is very clear that their is an attemp by a group or indeed individuals to discredit this part while allowing some other parts to flowrish. that is the point which I am trying to make, with respect to the secound part of your post, do you know where and how Imam Ali (PBUH) was killed??? If you know where, you would be just like me in doubts of the presence of any christain in that place. The massege which is being sent is wrong and will create problems.  Regards   



YellowSunshine -> RE: What dirty game is played now? (7/17/2007 9:39:14 AM)

FlyBy... " Saudies , well, let's thank prince Bander"... When 1st glanced @ this thought it said, "well, let's thank prince BADGER"
me

ps.  By ALL means let us NOT upset the wealthy, they "Walk on Water". Or think they have the capability to do so.  NOT!  In X they will get their due. 

How these "LOVERS of $" can even look in the mirror and face themselves is beyond comprehension to me.  People/CHILDREN R suffering.  How DARE they look the other direction.  WRONG, so very very WRONG![:'(]



Calm -> RE: What dirty game is played now? (7/17/2007 3:33:08 PM)

My friends
Christians in Iraq existed centuries before Islam came.  And, I was taught that in school, if i was wrong then i apologise.




sadiq2006 -> RE: What dirty game is played now? (7/20/2007 7:58:22 PM)

calm

what you said about the christians and they are the original people of mesopotamia.



sadiq2006 -> RE: What dirty game is played now? (7/20/2007 8:00:44 PM)

read this it is very important about the american military that will stay forever and never leave iraq just read it:

*  في السياسة مبدأ قد لا يتم الإقرار به علانية بيد انه في الواقع  مسلّمة ضرورية ومبدأ رئيسي تستعمله جميع الدول (الحضارية )! ألا وهو الكذب : في التصريحات والكذب في صياغة القناعات والكذب في بيان النية , وتندرج أمور كثيرة وفق هذا السياق .. وأكثر دولة في العالم تستعمل الكذب في سياستها هي أمريكا ذلك أن قادتها لا تحكمهم المبادئ الإنسانية ولا ثقافة حضارية مسالمة بل تغلب عليهم شهوة حب السيطرة والهيمنة على شعوب العالم اجمع ,هذه الشهوة التي ولدت وتنامت بعد تفكك الاتحاد السوفيتي لم تحدها حدود ولم  تنتظم بأطر تدخل في التصنيف الثابت العقلاني للسياسة الخارجية لأي دولة معروفة بالعالم ذلك إن  الهيمنة  على مقدرات الشعوب وثرواتهم هي صفة الوحيدة الثابتة التي التزم بها قادة أمريكا  منذ أن سيطر العسكريين على إدارة رئاسة الحزب الجمهوري كسلطة والمتابع لهذه الشهوة الأمريكية يجدها خالية من أي ضوابط ولا تقف عند حد معين فهم يريدون أن يبتلعون جميع دول العالم حتى لو كانت حليفة لهم أو كانت غريمة لهم وذلك ما شاهدناه من خلال بناء طوق الكماشة حول روسيا فيظهر أن تفكيك الاتحاد السوفيتي لم يكن كافي ليوقف سيل لعاب هؤلاء الحفنة من تجار تدمير العالم بحجج مكافحة الإرهاب وغيرها من الحجج الواهية  وهم يختلقون الأعداء ويحددونهم ليحاربوهم !.

 
                  * المقاومة المسلحة العراقية هي الفاعل الكبير والوحيد الذي كان سبب جميع مشاكل أمريكا وأعوانها من المحتلين و عملاء وليس ما يسمى بمقاومة سلمية  التي تسعى بأسلوب يؤسف له بالخنوع للمحتل والتفاوض معه بأسلوب التوسل هذه التسمية الأضحوكة هي باطل  يراد به حق لا يمكن أن تنطلي على أبناء بلد محتل تنتهك فيه كل القيم الأخلاقية والإنسانية وتنهب ثرواته ليل نهار .
وأعداء المقاومة العراقية هم بالنتيجة أعداء كل العراق وشعبه لم يبرحوا وبشكل دؤوب في مسعاهم للقضاء على كل ما يمثل المقاومة ويشد عضدها وما الاعتقالات العشوائية التي تمارس في كل مرة  تصدر خطة أمنية جديدة في حقيقة الأمر هي مستمرة إلا محاولات بائسة لتقليل منابع تمويل المقاومة البشرية وما العمليات الغادرة التي تمارس بأسلوب طائفي من قتل وتعذيب مستمر ثم قتل ورمي الجثث الطاهرة في الشوارع إلا محاولات أخرى للنيل من مقاومة هذا الشعب المجاهد , ولكن هيهات لهم فمقاومة كالتي في العراق رافدها الملايين التي تشرب من دجلة والفرات والمسنودة من أشقاء لهم قدموا للجهاد تجمعهم أخوة الدين والكفاح من اجل تحرير البلد من الامبريالية العالمية المتمثلة في أمريكا وبريطاني وعميلتهما ايران .هذه المقاومة لا يمكن أن تنتهي ما دام الله معينهم والشعب رافدهم وهي التي أجبرت الأعداء للاعتراف بضراوة المعركة بين الطرفين ولا يمكن أن تنخدع أو تجر بأي أسلوب للهوان والاستهانة وتخفيف الضربات الماحقة بسبب تصريحات ترفية بين حزبين (الديمقراطي والجمهوري ) هدفهم الاستيلاء على كراسي السلطة في اكبر دولة امبريالية في العالم .
     *  لذلك نعتقد جازمين كما يعتقد الكثير من إن ما يتم إطلاقه من تصريحات بين الحين والآخر ما هي إلا من اجل إثارة نوازع السكون والهدوء والترقب ثم التأمل فالانصياع وراء الخيال المريض باقتناص الفرصة عن طريق إيجاد مقعد في سلطة مزعومة قد توجد مستقبلا إذا ما صدق الكذابون وانسحبوا !!.  إن هراء تصريحات الانسحاب ركض وراءه الكثير ممن التحفوا تحت أطماعهم الضيقة والشخصية  وكشفوا أنفسهم وراحوا يطبلون ويزمرون من اجل تهدئة الأمور وجر أطراف معينة وراء الهدف الأمريكي وهو القضاء على المقاومة المسلحة او تحييدها من اجل التمركز في معسكرات خاصة وأماكن معينة تعمل منها كوصي على عرش العراق الجديد ومنطلق للسيطرة  الاستخبارية لإكمال الكماشة العسكرية على المناطق القريبة من روسيا أقوى ما تبقى للاتحاد السوفيتي , أما جنوب العراق فهو أصلا واقع تحت الاحتلال الأمريكي ذو الطابع الصديق فقواعده منتشرة في معظم دول الخليج العربي ولم يتبقى له إلا تثبيتها في العراق !.
·        إذن كانت تصريحات الانسحاب تكتيك آخر في إدارة الصراع تمارسه الإدارة الشريرة في البيت الأسود مع الغمامة التي ترفعها بتخويف الجميع من سلاح نووي إيراني محتمل ( لانجد ما يبرر عدم قيامها بتدميره وهي التي دمرت العراق وكان لم يصل إلى  10%  مما وصلت إليه ايران الآن ) ؟! إضافة لمجمل الفتن التي تحيكها وعملائها لإبقاء حالة عدم الاستقرار والخوف والرعب تخيم على أبناء الشعب العراقي وهو في حالة البحث عن الخلاص من عمليات القتل المنسق والدمار المستمر ليجبر في النهاية للرضا وتأييد أي حل للخلاص لذلك نرى هذه المجموعات النشاز التي تظهر هذه الأيام وتطلق التصريحات وراء الأخرى بقدرتها على استلام الأمور أو إدارة البلاد أو إعادة الاستقرار والهدوء أو التمحور أو التفاوض مع المحتل وتأليف جبهات معينة توهم الجميع إنها في اتجاه  راحة البال. إذن هذا الهدف الذي باتت الإدارة الأمريكية تسعى إليه وتقود فصائل مهزوزة القيم إليها وهي تعتقد أن وقته ربما قد حان فوجودها في قواعد عسكرية مغلقة تحكمها شروط توفر لها حالة سلمية خالية من المقاومة العسكرية  ضد قواتها في العراق تستطيع ان تدير الأمور من وراء الكواليس هو الهدف القادم لإدارة الشر الأسود في العراق . وهي في مسعاها هذا تعمل على جر فصائل معينة أخرى نحو مصيدة القبول بالاحتلال والتفاوض معه وفق ما يمليه عليهم لتوسيع قاعدة الفصائل الخائنة للوطن التي تعمل على سرقة خيرات العراق وإهدارها.
·        وعليه فنحن مطمئنين من إن كل مخططات أعداء الأمة الإسلامية ستتجه نحو الفشل ما دام منبع الرجال الأشاوس الذين لا يهابون إلا الله باق , وما دام الإصرار على دحر العدو من خلال الضربات المؤثرة والنوعية ونحو إخراج العدو مهزوما مدحورا من حيث لا خيار له يسعى إليه إلا بالاستسلام لواقع المقاومة العراقية وما تفرضه من شروط وتحميله جميع تبعات احتلاله المرير.




Calm -> RE: What dirty game is played now? (7/20/2007 8:43:32 PM)

Do you really think someone will see something new in what you added?

Dohhhhhhhhhhhhhh



Lion of Babylon -> RE: What dirty game is played now? (7/21/2007 5:51:48 AM)

quote:


Dohhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Thats it, I'm calling 911. My initial diagnosis of homersimpsonitus was wrong! [X(] I'm afraid the situation is critical and people are advised to stay away from this man. [X(] He has a sever case of antisadiqtivitus and it is extremely contagious. [X(] The disease is brought on by over exposure to Sadiq2006 and the condition manifests itself by taking over the victims speech patterns and altering them to sound like Homer Simpson's! [X(][X(][X(]



YellowSunshine -> RE: What dirty game is played now? (7/21/2007 10:34:05 AM)

NEW WORLD ORDER!
GAG




sadiq2006 -> RE: What dirty game is played now? (7/21/2007 7:02:28 PM)

what do you excpect from al sader he is just a discusting pig and ruined the reputation of his great father.



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