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Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/9/2007 8:32:02 AM
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Lion of Babylon
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Dudes. Now the tempo is rising the rumors are getting stronger about Maliki's end and Alawi's new beginning. Maliki always said he never wanted the job which clearly shows his heart isn't in it. I hope Alawi does get his second chance because I'm sure he will do a much better job than Maliki's pathetic excuse for a government. What do you think? The end of Maliki? Truth About Iraqis July 8, 2007 I am getting dozens of reports from various sources which are pointing in one direction - the government of Iraq(n)i PM Maliki is on the verge of collapse. One source close to parliamentarians in Baghdad has told me that US "political forces" have informed him that Washington is diverting track and will "now fix mistakes of the past". The source would not disclose anything further, but if I may surmise: The US has recognized its mistakes in supporting the Maliki government. In fact, last week, US sources told the American media that Maliki was performing very poorly and that the benchmarks Congress had drawn up were unlikely to be met. Within hours, Iran responded that it threw its full support behind Maliki and that "there was no alternative" to the current PM. It is clear Washington and Tehran are battling it out in the Green Zone. Into this burning pot of overflowing human grease and blood, we heard of the arrest of Iranian operative - Lebanese Hezbo agents - operating in southern Iraq; the arrests and killing of several "pro-Iranian militia" and the targeting of Mehdi rabble fighters. In the past week alone, US and Iraqi forces have killed at least 30 Mehdi terrorists. A raid in Madinat al Thawra (renamed Saddam, then Sadr City) by US forces targeting Mehdi terrorists drew sharp rebuke from Maliki. Within four days, however, Maliki lashed out during a press conference with Talabani and called on Sadrists to exercise more caution so that they are not blamed for acts of terrorism. He blamed Saddamists and Baathists who had infilitrated the Sadrists as having been behind the kidnappings, beheadings, and car bombs. Fancy that, Saddamists having infilitrated the Sadrists. That is like saying the Virgin Mary adopted the Hassan and Hussein. Moving on, the Sadrists, chiefly Sadrist MP Bahaa Al Araji fired back at Maliki reminding the PM that it was the Sadrists who brought you into power. Ya Qundara. Sadrist Spokesperson Ahmed Al Shaybani went further saying that Maliki's government was in its "final days" and had "been weakened to the point of dysfunction". On the heels of all this, US sources have quoted Sunni MPs who have boycotted parliament meetings as saying they are going to try and pass a no-confidence vote agains Maliki by July 15. Maybe, maybe not. But as Bush loses critical GOP support in Washington, Maliki appears to lose his main supporters in Baghdad. There are also major rumblings in parliament over the draft Iraqi oil law, which purportedly gives US and UK oil companies 76% stock in the country's oil. A similar arrangement led to the Iraqi revolution led by Rashid Aali Al Geilani in the 1940s and again in 1958. It also led to Mossadegh's coup in Iran, bringing into power the most democratic and liberal government in the mideast. This was removed by powerful oil conglomerate in colluson with the Shah. Many Iraqis say they will vote down the oil law and are warning that it not be rushed to appease Washington, as in the case of the constitution draft in Sept. 2005 and the elections in January 2006. Right now, Mosul is under siege as rival forces battle it out. On the one side is Eid Al Namis, an Iraqi police officer with considerable clout fighting to the death against "mujahidin". Final update: I am getting reports that the Turkish military is poised to invade northern Iraq. Barazani is reportedly prepping to call up all able young men to be drafted into a defense force. Several hundreds of Kurds have fled to Iran and Syria fearing the draft. There are reports that residents of Dhok are afraid the Turkish military could extend itself all the way into their city. Yesterday, the deadly blast in Toz Kharmatu near Kirkuk killed more than 150 mostly Turkmen civilians. All I can say is that things are coming to a boil in Iraq. Things WILL be determined by the end of the summer. Allawi may be in power by Eid-al-Fitr. http://uruknet.info/?p=m34352&s1=h1
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/9/2007 8:39:31 AM
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Lion of Babylon
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Latest interview with Alawi. Ayad Alawi: 'I am not in competition with Al Maliki' By Mayada Al Askari, Staff Reporter Published: July 08, 2007, 20:40 US withdrawal from Iraq must follow the building of the country's military and security capabilities and the establishment of "some sort of law and order," says former Iraqi Prime Minister Eyad Allawi. "The withdrawal [of the US forces] will not lead to stability; instead, it will be catastrophic," he told Gulf News in an exclusive interview in Amman, Jordan. He questioned the ability of the Iraqi government, "held hostage in the Green Zone", to function if US protection were to be lifted. Allawi, leader of one of the biggest groups in the parliament, said that the United Nations and its Security Council should be given a bigger role in Iraq, in coordination with the Arab League and the Organisation of Islamic Conference. Allawi said his parliamentary bloc, the Iraqi National List, was seriously considering "withdrawing from the political process" in Iraq, or at least from the Nouri Al Maliki government. Gulf News: What is going on in Iraq? Things seem to get worse everyday. Eyad Allawi: What is taking place in Iraq today is a real disaster, and its implications will extend beyond Iraq to the region as a whole as well. This situation is the result of mistakes accumulated before the 2003 war and many mistakes committed after the war. In fact these mistakes were built over many others. Policies alien to the Iraqi people were imposed, leading to widespread violence, sectarian strife and fighting within the same sect. The current government lacks credibility. This led to a state of chaos, lawlessness and nonexistent security. The government's inability to administer the country's economy also led to a number of issues, one of which is an unprecedented immigration to neighbouring and other countries. Another outcome can be seen in regional interferences in Iraq's internal issues. The implications will not stop in Iraq but will supersede it towards the entire region. If things continue in this manner, Iraq will defiantly reach the point of no return and a huge crisis will ensue in the region. That is why we have to put an end to these repercussions and give new emphasis to the re-building of Iraq based on reason and preserving Iraq and its people. What is going on in Iraq today is dangerous for the people of Iraq, the country's future and the future of the region as well. Don't you think we have already reached the point of no return? I still believe there is hope, albeit slim, where we can get things back to a semi normal situation, if not normal altogether. With every passing day, without a solution for the Iraqi dilemma, matters will become more difficult and complicated and we will find ourselves at the point of no return. A year and three months ago, in an interview with the BBC, I said Iraq has slipped into civil war. This was such a long time ago, and I am sorry to say that matters have not improved. The repercussions are continuous. At the time, President George W. Bush said to me that things are going on well in Iraq, and that we respect you Dr. Allawi, but this issue is being blown out of proportion. As I see it, matters are deteriorating in an unbelievable manner. Despite this fact, I do believe we have time, but this time is extremely tight. If some major solution does not take place in Iraq, we will witness a crisis which will engulf the whole region. Do you believe US troops will withdraw from Iraq? And if this withdrawal happens, what's the use if the US is leaving behind huge bases, as being reported in Washington? Do you think a withdrawal will ease tensions in Iraq? I believe the US withdrawal has to coincide with building the country's armed and security capabilities, and to establish some sort of law and order. First, the United Nations and its Security Council has to be given a bigger role in Iraq, then it can cooperate with the Arab League and the Organisation of Islamic Conference. There will be some sort of regional and international support, which can help Iraq to stabilise. Without this, the withdrawal of the US will not lead to stability; instead, a hurricane will engulf the country. The government is currently held hostage in a part of Baghdad, protected by international forces. How will this government function if this protection is withdrawn? When we describe the ongoing struggle in Iraq, we hope the world at large will support the moderate forces in this crisis. When we say there is no government, we hope all moderate Iraqi forces will try to build the state and its establishments This Green Zone which houses the Iraqi government and occupation forces in Baghdad, has become a protective shield. How can the government function behind high walls? This zone is not a protective shield; it is being bombarded all the time. I was talking a few days ago over the telephone to a member of our Iraqi National List and suddenly the telephone went dead. After awhile, she called me and told me her house was shelled and her guards were injured. The explosion which took place at the Melia Al Mansour Hotel a few days ago killing Sunni tribal chiefs in a government meeting and several other people indicates the absence of security in the Green Zone, and even under the protection of the Multi-National Forces. [Commanding General of MNF] David Petraeus was having dinner at my house after the last surge, and I asked him: What about the day after "the surge?" He said it was a nightmare and if Iraqis do not solve their problems, the MNF cannot do anything for them. He added that they were trying to calm the situation down to make the country safe and secure so that a real political rapprochement can take place and allow the government to be more active. This is the MNF leader's vision, meaning there is no secure green, red or blue zone. Petraeus oversaw the rebuilding and administration of Mosul and Nineveh provinces. He did an excellent job. He is aware politically and militarily which makes him the right person in Iraq and he has insights into the detailed Iraqi scene. I hope his appointment is not too late for Iraq. It is extremely important to have people such as Pet-raeus in Iraq, especially as they help to explain the actual picture to the American politicians and decision makers. After all the negative repercussions in Iraq, many Iraqis regard a federal state as one solution. What do you think? We have never regarded Iraq from a sectarian Sunni, Shiite, Muslim, Christian, Arab, Kurdish, Turkmen or other point of view. No doubt there were always isolated cases, which had nothing to do with Iraqi society. Today, and as a result of the previous regime's practices and the outcome of the grievous mistakes which took place after the war, we see sectarian killings. Iraq is being re-established according to sectarian quotas, and this has gone a step further by causing divisions within the same sect, hence we see fighting within these sects. As the authority and strength of establishments and law decline in society, the middle and educated classes, the backbone of any society, disappear. As a result, people take refuge in their tribes, sects and ethnic groups to protect themselves. Sectarian quotas will not benefit anyone. But, we find them in government offices, departments, and they were even used in the previous elections. It is not right to build a country on a sectarian basis. We must build our state on law, security, order and basic legal rights for every citizen. Today there are those who are pushing for wide federal jurisdiction and authority in the provinces. This is done without these parties specifying what they want, or how to package it. Under Iraq's unhealthy circumstances of sectarian killings, the presence of an occupation, armed militias and the total absence of a government and its establishments, it is irrational to think about drawing up plans for the future. If we are to move to sectarian divisions, we will soon have divisions within the same sect, which will lead to fighting within the same sect. This will lead also to violent fighting in Iraq which will spread to other countries in the region. Prime Minister Nouri Al Maliki has accused you of jeopardising the security situation in Iraq and working on ripping Iraqi society apart. What is the root of this accusation? I was surprised when I heard this accusation. It reflects the government's lack of self-confidence. I have personally offered my support to this government on several occasions. The invitation extended by the UAE government to Al Maliki's Cabinet and Iraqi government was achieved through my efforts, as I talked to our kind brothers there, and they responded by inviting the Iraqi government to discuss matters on a positive note. Three weeks ago, Iraqi resistance groups asked for my advice, as the US government had asked them to resume talks; I encouraged them to do so, as we are all responsible for Iraq's security and stability. Therefore, I am truly amazed as to why Al Maliki spoke in such a manner. Al Maliki knows the reality of matters, which projects his weakness. He knows there are 200,000 foreign soldiers in Iraq, nearly 160,000 of which are the US army and the rest are multinational forces. He speaks of my attempts to change the regime by force, and I ask, where is the force and weapons I am supposed to use? This is irrational. But are we striving to change the political process? Yes, that is true. The political situation in Iraq is heading towards collapse. We have to correct this rout and save Iraq from this fix. I am not in competition with Al Maliki, I am merely against his political agenda, which is based on sectarian quotas, while my political agenda is the Iraqi national programme. The two are very different, and we resort to the Iraqi people. Iraqis chose our brothers in the Unified Iraqi Coalition. We have nothing personal against Al Maliki. Then I hear talk about my being supportive of our Arab brothers, and I ask what is wrong with that? If we support our Arab brothers, are we atheists? Aren't we Arabs? Are we Afghans or Americans? We are Arabs, we have Arab roots, and we do respect other ethnic groups in Iraq, such as the Kurds and Turkmen ... etc, they are part of the Iraqi people and part of our family. So I am not allowed to talk to Arab states? But you recently met with Egyptian Intelligence Chief Omar Suleiman and that has raised some eyebrows. Omar Suleiman is an Arab national figure; he is also an important Arab official. President [Hosni] Mubarak is also an important Arab leader and I have met with him several times as well. We meet with the Egyptians and we are proud of our relations with the Egyptian leadership and people. The Egyptian government supported the Iraqi National Accord and gave us a radio transmitting studio since 1994, so how can we ever be ungrateful? Al Maliki himself seeks to meet Omar Suleiman, he has also met up with several intelligence services, and we do not want to enter such details. Egypt carries a lot of weight in both the Arab and Islamic world, and the African continent as well. I am proud to have met and sat with President Mubarak, and the last time was quite recently. I met up with the Turkish leaders; I asked them to cooperate with Iraq and to enter negotiations with the Kurds. I announced that through a press conference with the Turkish Minister of Foreign Affairs. I have to stop meeting our Arab and Muslim brothers because Al Maliki does not like it, let him not like it. We are a part of an Arab, Islamic and international whole, and we cannot hide our head in the sand. We have common problems and issues. I would like Al Maliki to be rest assured, I do not have the intention to conspire against him, but I am against his political programme and the sectarian quota route. I have my history, my present and my future, I do not want to become prime minister instead of him and tread the sectarian road. This is not my stand and I am not his competitor. We are considering withdrawing from the whole political process, or to withdraw from the cabinet, especially after the vote to sack speaker of the National Assembly, Mahmoud Al Mashhadani, which is in itself a secondary issue. The main issue is the whole Iraqi situation and the route which is not serving anyone, nor peace and stability in Iraq. If there are no real solutions here, than we cannot continue as part of the political process. We cannot wait until the next elections. The previous elections were based on violence, forgery and deceit; so what are the guarantees that the coming elections will be honest and fair? That is why we are discussing all our options, we do not have a specified one currently, and we do not want matters to further deteriorate in Iraq. We shall wait the next two months, and then we will say we have carried out our obligations, and no one will be able to blame us for whatever option we choose. We will be true to our conscience and programme. Iraqi forces today are badly penetrated. Is there a way to put an end to this situation? Of course we have a vision and solutions to this unhealthy situation. When I was in office, this sort of thing did not happen. True, there were militias who fought us in different locations, but there were no incidents where the army or the police entered a location and kidnapped people. At the time, we inherited teams put together by Paul Bremer, there was nothing else in Iraq. We were able to re-structure security forces upon clear policies, including the army. We relied on clear policies as well, in choosing officers, military commanders and the police force. The government can talk to experts in this field, but it needs to do this not on the basis of sectarian quotas. Iraq is for all Iraqis. http://www.gulf-news.com/region/Iraq/10137844.html
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/9/2007 10:38:00 AM
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zimzim
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First, the United Nations and its Security Council has to be given a bigger role in Iraq. God I hope your report is true LOB. With all my heart I want to see this Maliki Jaafari Shia religious government dissapear. They have done nothing for us and only gave strength to militias and criminals. Alawi is right, its time to involve the UN and I will pray that Alawi is brought back to power by whatever means. He is strong not like the others and can stand up to the criminals that are now ruling our country.
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/10/2007 2:04:43 AM
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Lion of Babylon
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Zimo. Looks like your dreams are coming true. Maliki needs Sadr but the same cant be said for our local retard Muqtada. Read below, something is about to happen! Sadrist Bloc to Advance No-Confidence Bill? Move Would Escalate Feud with Maliki Government; Tawafuq Would Support MPs close to the Sadrist bloc in the Iraqi Parliament have said that the bloc is nearing the crystallization of the form of a suggestion that would serve as a proposal to withdraw confidence from the Maliki government, and that the bloc is preparing such legislation to go before Parliament, al-Melaf reports in Arabic. The Sadrist bloc is made up of 30 members of Parliament loyal to the young Shi'a cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. Al-Melaf confirms that the Tawafuq Front would support such a proposal, if it was offered by another bloc, after learning of the Sadrist bloc’s intention to take action in this regard. As reported earlier Monday, the Iraqi Sunni Vice President Tariq al-Hashemi has said that he would support a vote of no-confidence against Maliki if it were offered by a bloc other than the Tawafuq Front. Hashemi is leader of the Iraqi Islamic Party, the largest of the three parties that make up the Tawafuq Front, the largest Sunni Arab bloc in Parliament. The widening gulf between the Sadrist bloc and the Maliki government has widenened in recent days as tensions have heightened between the PM and the Sadr loyalists, with recent media reports suggesting that the two parties have irrevocably broken relations. However, a no-confidence measure would be the Sadrists' most direct challenge to the Maliki government since the bloc withdrew its ministers from the Maliki government.
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/12/2007 2:27:48 AM
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Hi zim and LOB. The sooner the better as far as I'm concerned. Not sure how this will work out but Alawi is the right man for the job. I hope the majority of Iraqis agree.
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/12/2007 4:20:46 PM
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Calm
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Hi all Reports on TV here showing that Ayad Allawie have the answer and supported by the american and the british. I missed the full report. Sorry
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/13/2007 8:06:01 AM
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sadiq2006
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do not trust in this guy they are all puppets of america and the iraqi people do not want him i saw an youtube for it, they were throwing shoes and slippers to alawi as a hated man at him this what i saw.
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/13/2007 1:31:18 PM
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Lion of Babylon
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do not trust in this guy they are all puppets of america and the iraqi people do not want him i saw an youtube for it, they were throwing shoes and slippers to alawi as a hated man at him this what i saw. OK Dude, so who exactly do you trust?
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/17/2007 11:12:40 PM
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Lion of Babylon
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No comment! Iraq is on the verge of deeper disaster and the violence that kills hundreds of people every week will only get worse in the months ahead, the country's first post-Saddam prime minister said on Monday. Iyad Allawi, who headed Iraq's post-invasion government for six months from June 2004, said he saw little sign that sectarianism or terrorism would die down soon, and that he feared U.S. troops would start to withdraw next year. "The country is slipping into more chaos, more sectarianism and more divisions". "The bloodshed is becoming appalling and unacceptable, and frankly I cannot see the political process continuing as it is now because the country is on the verge of a big disaster. "The insurgency is stronger than ever, and it's getting stronger, and it's going to go on getting stronger. I think what we see now is less than what we will see in a few months ... Reconciliation is further away than at any time in the past." A U.S. withdrawal "will become imminent next year; it's going to take place in any case", Allawi said. "No one should expect the United States to remain in Iraq forever. They are going to pull out, but unfortunately the Iraqi forces are not ready yet." U.S. President George W. Bush has urged critics to await a report in September assessing the effect on security in Iraq of a 'surge' of roughly 30,000 extra U.S. troops. Allawi said: "My biggest fear is that once the 'surge' is over, the day after is going to witness a very severe backlash." Allawi, a political moderate who eschews religious sectarianism, said he was now spending much of his time in discussions with Arab leaders and the United Nations to try to get more Security Council involvement in Iraq. He is due to go with a delegation to see U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon in the "coming weeks" to explore what greater role the Security Council can play, especially as U.S. troops begin to withdraw. "The only way forward that I can see is to give the U.N. a wider role in Iraq," he said. "We fear there is a big danger. Already the spell is beyond Iraq, it's affecting Lebanon, it's affecting Palestine, Morocco, Algeria, Somalia, everywhere." http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L16763220.htm
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/18/2007 4:09:32 PM
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Calm
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Happy dreams I dream of no more killing I dream of mothers and children celebrating Peace I dream of a major cleanup for every city town and village in Iraq, done by the people in their own areas. I dream of our children dressed smartly and going back to school I dream of our children learning how to play again, and be children i dream of 100% employment I dream of clean air, without the smell of dead bodies I dream of food in plentyfull, electricity, clean water, postal service, railway services I dream of Iraq being the centre of investment in the world I dream of Iraq have open doors to all those honourable Iraqis who left the country to come back and help rebuild I dream when honour and honesty becomes the virtue of our society I dream of eating Maaskoof without worrying about any illnesses I dream of a free democratic country I dream of every Iraqi buying my book when its published.
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/20/2007 7:42:27 PM
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sadiq2006
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flybybaghdad i believe allah will help the iraqis by kicking out those crazy governments and the crazy kurds and retore everything that have stolen from them and their land and erase this stupid politicle border around and give back their original land and be united back then iraq will be strong that what i want the glory of mesopotamia should come back like it happaned before thousands of years ago and believe in allah (the mighty god) that is what i believe not by those scum and discusting governments, and tusting the iraqi people because they very educated and they aware of what is happening just they have to be united once again like before and allah the mighty god will help them i sure of it.
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/20/2007 8:47:07 PM
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Calm
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Man your english is crap for an american. Don't you have schools that will teach you better english so you can understand what you read better, and while you at it, please read about the history of Iraq. You never listen Dohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/21/2007 1:37:43 AM
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Former Prime Minister Ayad Allawi said there were serious plots to have him assassinated in Baghdad. In a television interview, Allawi said: “Organs in the current government with the assistance of a foreign state are trying to liquidate me.” Allawi did not name the foreign country but analysts said he was most probably referring to Iran. Allawi is a Shiite but his Iraqi National List party is secular and moderate and includes members from across the country’s diverse sects, religions and nationalities. The list has 24 deputies in the parliament and is part of the current ruling Shiite-Kurdish government. Allawi said he learned about attempts to have him assassinated “from the U.S. and a number of Arab countries”. He did not elaborate. Despite his participation in the ruling coalition, Allawi was critical of the government, indicating that he might withdraw if it fails to introduce reconciliation. “If we find that our presence is no longer useful and our presence in the government ineffective, our withdrawal from the government is a measure to resort to,” he said. He lashed out at the government of Nouri al-Maliki, saying that instead of curbing the country’s unruly militias it was encouraging them. http://www.azzaman.com/english/index...07-19/kurd.htm
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/22/2007 7:58:41 PM
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sadiq2006
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Miss. zimzim do not wish him to come back he cares only for money like the rest of them please trust me on this one please.
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/25/2007 10:39:09 PM
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Good to see Sadiq has a friend!! quote:
just ask him how the people treated him in Najaf???? It was Muqtadas monkeys who chased him out of Najaf. He cant deny anything because it was filmed and published on the net. quote:
Alawi will increase the problems due to lack of incompetancy Dude, perhaps you might want to rephrase that! quote:
he did not provide a vaiable solution in the first government why he should be better now? Bro, the guy only got 6 months and you know very well thats not enough time to do anything positive. The reason why he would be better than the rest of the puppets is because hes tough and isnt afraid of banging a few heads to get things done. How long has the Maliki/Jafari government had in power and tell me what are the positive aspects of their leaderships???
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/26/2007 6:24:01 AM
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Lion of Babylon, probabley the likes of Alawi are not allowing the current goverment to work!! lots of hands are disturbing the waters of Iraq, and once again I will not exclude anybody!! , with respect to Alawi as I said people now in Iraq are very sensitive towards to idea of having an X Ba3thy to be their leader, we dont need another Saddam in the office, we need more jobs and more security and more stability for Iraqis. , Badgerism in Iraq is at full scale and once again I will not exclude anyone!! the mentality of; you either live with our presence or there will be no life is outdated, and no body could rule the world with an outdated theory. I have a personal experience with Alawi's people, and for once dude, we dont want Nazis to take over Iraq, polishing is not good because sometime the face is so scared that is beyond salvage. Long live freedom, long live Iraq, long live the ideology of Mahatma Ghandi, Freemasons = illuminaties = Ba3thy = Nazi's = Salafi = Wahabi = Zionist => Shiet hole
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/26/2007 6:25:35 AM
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Enquiry, I would like to ask Mr. Alawi about the initiation ceremony which should be done in order to become a freemason. (1) How the initiation ceremony does starts and end. (2) Do you need to be with special credential like (history of family memberships like in your case) in order to join in? (3) How does it feel to be with the all Seeing Eye? (4) Is it true that part of the initiation is based on stroking your Salami while exposing intimate details of your life to the rest of the brothers/Freemasons? (5) What is your degree, and which lodge you belong to? Could you please give us an insight into that process? God forbid that people like you will take over in Iraq, and then it will be another Saddam, armed by the same known powers and most likely attacking the same old enemy, I mean the one on the Eastern Gate. Long Live Freedom of Speech, Long Live Humanity and true human beings, Long Live Mahatma Ghandi, Freemasons and Illuminates are in the deepest part of the septatank, Illuminates = Freemasons = Salafi = Wahabi = Ba3thy = Nazis = Zionist => all seen in the G.. Pride parade.
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/26/2007 6:49:35 AM
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But dude, just as Maliki/Jaffari had people/groups messing with them so did Alawi when he was in power. This government isnt succeeding not because of people like Alawi but there are some others undermining this process such as your best friends the Sadrists. Its too easy to say Alawi is the cause of this because all these other politicians dont give a dam about Iraq and they are in power. Nor do the ministers who sign the cheques and contracts. Nor do the Mullas who are not allowing us move into the future. Before you say it dont worry I do include the Allies/US/UK/Aus...etc in the brew. Democracy will not work in Iraq without getting the security first. For this we need a strong leader and we might have to return back 3 steps for every 1 step we take forward. By this I mean we might have to establish marshal law and get some order in place instead of waiting for third rate politicians to debate this in parliament for weeks before things get done. Then there should be some sort of 10 year plan drawn up outlining Iraqs path to establishing a proper democracy. Bro, I dont know much about politics but when you have over 100 Iraqis dying every day then we cant seriously debate whether Maliki/Jafari governments have done anything to make this democracy work. If you have any examples of positive successes made by Jafari/Maliki I would be very interested to learn about them.
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/26/2007 9:06:27 AM
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sadiq2006
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lion of babylon i believe about what flybybaghdad is saying that it is 100% true.
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RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! - 7/27/2007 8:50:49 PM
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Calm
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I love it when someone says Ex-Baathist. Almost everyone was a member, if he /she didn't join themselves, they were forced to join otherwise no jobs, no money, no protection. As for Ayad Allawie, the man is intelligent, tough, fearless, and respected worldwide. And if got kicked out of NAjef its because he was the only one who had the gutts to tell the Turbins to back off. While Ayad was in england, saddam's lot tried to kill him, but he survived. You said you don't want another Saddam, just think carefully. I am not pro-saddam, but he knew how to deal with all the idiots. And for Sadiq, please get yourself educated before you open that dirty trap in your face.
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