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YellowSunshine -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/9/2007 10:33:46 AM)

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YellowSunshine -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/9/2007 10:42:38 AM)

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Cracking Balls
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ORIGINAL: FlyByBaghdad

LOB, your reply is clearly showing; lack of knowledge with respect to Iraqi issues, Iraqis Exiles are not concluded with people who left Iraq after the invasion, 35 years of tyranny produced a huge number of refugees and exiles, and guess what, nearly 90% of them are Shi3a, and with exception to the few, loyalty for shi3a is an Ultimate Goal, and I hope that you understand what I mean by that. Those doctors and engineers which you mention, do follow the same rule as well, I like to have a puzzling personality, this is the way which I have used here during the past six years, by the ends of this post and if you read all my posts you will never be able to construct a clear picture on the way I think. Regards   Long live freedom of speech, Long live Mahatma Ghandi   At the time of Universal deceit, tell the truth requires a Cracking Balls, (FlyByBaghdad)


Have some of the cheap dollar store toy ones to throw when tensions run high.  need a case. 

oh well



YellowSunshine -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/9/2007 10:52:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sadiq2006

this issue between sunna and shia has become from the time from 1400 years ago from the death of prophet mohammed (peace be upon him) until now, the reason is that when he died some people said that abu baker should the leader of the islamic rule but some other muslims said no imam ali bin abi talib should be the leader of the islamic rule and because of this it a was and harted between the two sides until now with the silly islamic excuses and selfishness until now and hating the shia so much just because of silly reasons and they are :
 
1- because the shia killed imam hussain.
 
2- because the shia who are the ones make diffirences between the muslims and the arabs.
 
3- because the shia who are the ones who made everything wrong in islam.
 
4- because the shia loves imam ali and do not like prophet mohammed (peace be upon him).
 
5- because the shia have

another holy book of quran (the book of the words of allah the mighty god). 
 
and because of these silly stupid reasons and other also silly reasons, always the arabs will say blame the shia for everything can you imagine that who low the arabs can get and always (ask are you shia or sunna) and blamong the shia for everything for what happened in the past i cannot believe this.
 
why always blaming the shia for everything always why is that, i cannot understand this.      



some issues here similar to the Catholic/Lutheran issues, etc... throughout history

WHY CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG.

$$%#

FOR CRYING OUT WOULD THE STUPID (SELF INCLUDED) PEOPLE IN THIS MESS OF A WORLD WAKE UP BEFORE IT IS FAR TOO LATE AND WE ARE ALL WASTED/ or too far gone for repair!



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/9/2007 12:28:09 PM)

Dudes, Alawi's ex is the Paris Hilton of Iraq! [:D]

Ex-PM's Wife Convicted in UK
"She Drove off with Me on the Bonnet"; Thanaa Allawi Will Appeal
 
While the Iraqi parliamentary bloc loyal to Iyad Allawi is locked in a contest of wills with the Maliki government, the former prime minister’s wife is in London, embroiled in her own struggle with the British courts. Thanaa Hussein Allawi was convicted of “dangerous driving,” after she allegedly drove her car into a parking enforcement officer and continued traveling with the terrified officer on the hood of the vehicle.

The 48-year-old Thanaa Allawi has been banned from driving for a year, received eight penalty points on her license, and will be required to pay compensation to the uniformed parking warden, Michelle Walker. In court testimony, Walker said that the ex-PM’s wife, who lives in exile in London, had returned to her car while Walker was attempting to attach a ticket to the windshield. The London court was told that the incident occurred in July 2005 when Walker found Allawi’s $60,000 white Audi illegally parked in a pedestrian-only section of a busy commercial area near the Allawis’ London residence, the UK's Wimbledon Guardian reports. According to Walker’s testimony, Allawi started up the car and drove toward Walker.

"She called me a bully. I was walking around the car to explain why she had been issued with the notice when she started to drive forward.”

"I assumed she would stop but she didn't. She drove off with me on the bonnet (hood) for about 20 seconds at 10 to 15 miles per hour. I asked if she was trying to kill me," Walker continued. "Driving any number of seconds with a parking attendant attached to the bonnet clearly constitutes dangerous driving," said Guy Ladenburg, prosecuting the case in London’s Kingston Crown Court. A witness corroborated Walker’s version of events.

“I have been very harshly treated,” Thanaa Allawi told the British newspaper the Daily Mail, speaking from her London home.

"I have been labeled a dangerous driver and a liar, when in reality I nothing of the sort. It is the traffic warden who is a liar,” she said. “I would not dream of driving at somebody, nor of driving away with them on my bonnet," the former Iraqi first lady continued, adding, “I tried to reason with her but she would not listen. She was just after her commission.”

"She would not pay any attention to what I was saying. I got in the car and drove away but as I drove off she threw herself at the windscreen.

"She was desperate to put the ticket on the windscreen and get her co mission. I was in shock that she had jumped on the bonnet but when I realised what had happened I stopped.

"I cannot have travelled any distance with her on the bonnet. I would never be so irresponsible as to drive away with someone on the bonnet.

"The whole experience has been very upsetting. I am not the liar in this case," Allawi told the Daily Mail.

The two maintain a London residence on an exclusive private road known as Coombe End near the Kingston Hill area. The Allawis’ home is valued at over $4 million at current exchange rates. Thanaa Allawi vowed to appeal the decision. If the conviction stands, she will be required to pass an extended driving exam before she takes the wheel again. Iyad Allawi, the longtime CIA asset and former Interim Prime Minister of Iraq is the leader of the Iraqi National Accord party, the major player in the Iraqi National List political bloc within the Iraqi Parliament. On Wednesday, Allawi's National List confirmed that its ministers in the Iraqi government would boycott cabinet meetings in an ongoing dispute with the Iraqi goverment over the bloc's political demands.



YellowSunshine -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/10/2007 6:04:50 AM)

LOB, is she blond?  LOL.

"Masonry ought forever to be abolished. It is wrong - essentially wrong - a seed of evil, which can never produce any good." (John Qunicy Adams, 6th President of the United States) President Adams was a determined opponent of the Secret Society known as Freemasonry. Debate has long waged hot and heavy as to the true character of Masonry, but for Founding Fathers like President Adams, there was no question: Masonry was evil, could only produce evil, and was a danger to the live and health of America. Adams was convinced Freemasonry was Luciferian, noxious, detrimental and highly evil. All people -- both Masons and concerned citizens -- will find President Adam's warnings relevant and pertinent to today, because Masonry continues its leadership of the New World Order, as it deftly manuevers nations of the world to accept the coming Masonic Christ.*******
copied from a review of this book from cutting edge org./google result i happened upon.  thought a quote from a previous President was interesting.
also read somewhere (could have been book previously put some quotes from) which i found interesting was info. on how the cia will often attempt to predict how a society will react to changes in their political structure, economy, war, etc... that even the best laid out plans, (cia, etc., having researched deeply into all available to attempt to predict outcome) often don't play out as attempted.  however, somex's does "work"

attribute this to human error, or a small oversite of a "society"... perhaps they (or anyone doing such) were not digging "deep" enough, or seeing the whole picture from beginning to end of "the game" (NOT games folks, just using this as an example)  this indeed would be very difficult to do.  Iraq, for example has a LONG history and many things come into play here as we ALL know.

story, sigh not another one from Ms. Big Mouth, oh well name I call self appears to be appropriate.  better that than total ignorance or just sitting on butt not caring.  NOT important, no reading of below required.  just me sounding off, yep again...

many yrs back i worked in a hospital where new procedures were often implimented by the "higher ups" since my job was down in "the gutter/doing their dirty work/cleaning up messes" i could often see the "writing on the wall" as these know it alls put their ideas into motion.  being not one to sit back and caring about the outcome (what would do to folks receiving bills that were not correct, sending some to collections that did not belong, paperwork backlog bogging down all in our dpt, etc..) i would open my mouth and let them know, (we did at one point have a controller that actually cared and listened, too bad he wasn't there very long)but since i was not in "their league" some  refused to listen, or it could have been about the $ (SHOCK, no way in a community hospital),  once a huge huge huge mess (i have had fibromyalgia for years but at that time the issue became worse and i have suffered major since this mess/stress)of course the gutter workers did the dirty work during this mess I was the #1 gutter person to clean up that disaster-the big wigs all patted each other on backs, of course i am sure they got something extra in their pay checks, when this mess was resolved.  CRAP, not saying carp either.





YellowSunshine -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/10/2007 6:11:41 AM)

oh, i naturally was a "dishwater" blond, but hair chgd colour according to the seasons.

now of course a touch up to cover old lady hair, grey.

yep

[sm=smiley23.gif][sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley3.gif] yesterday while p. bush was speaking part of the x had a visual of him as a young cowboy riding a poa, (pony of the americas, a rather in my eye ugly looking little horse) and not riding too well.  was a great visual.  took my mind off the serious subject(s) at hand that were being discussed.

LOL



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/17/2007 9:59:57 PM)

Here is the follow up on the ex Mrs Alawi's case:

Former Iraqi PM's wife ordered to pay fine after parking fracas
 
LONDON (AP) - The wife of former Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi has been ordered to pay compensation after running into a parking warden and driving off with the inspector pinned to the windshield, British newspapers reported. The 2005 confrontation began after Michelle Walker issued Thanaa Hussain a ticket for illegally parking her car, Britain's Daily Mail and the Surrey Comet reported.

Hussain called Walker a bully, stepped into her Audi and stomped on the gas _ throwing her onto the hood for a 20-second ride at about 10-15 mph (16-24 kph), the warden was quoted by the Surrey Comet on Wednesday as saying.

«I assumed she would stop the car but she didn't,» Walker was quoted by the Comet as saying. «I asked her if she was trying to kill me. Hussain denied the accusation, saying Walker dove onto the vehicle to stop her from getting away.

«I tried to reason with her but she would not listen,» Hussain told the Daily Mail. «I got in the car and drove away, but as I drove off she threw herself at the windscreen. ... The whole experience has been very upsetting.

The Allawi family, some of whom live in southwest London, could not immediately be reached for comment. A spokesman for Allawi in Amman, Jordan, refused to discuss the issue, saying it was a family matter.

The court ruled that Hussain, 49, must pay more than 1,000 pounds (US$2,000; ¤1,400) in fines and compensation and cannot get back behind the wheel until she completes a new driver's test.

Hussain told the Daily Mail she intends to appeal the judgment. Ayad Allawi, a former exile who was once a member of ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein's Baath Party, became postwar Iraq's first prime minister in 2004 at the head of an interim government. He has since left the country, but remains active in Iraqi politics.



sadiq2006 -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/18/2007 1:37:45 PM)

lion of babylon
 
why you are putting your hopes on this guy allawi just forget about him all of these iraqi governments from the time british and french invasion in iraq in the iraq 1920's and the 1930's and they divided iraq at that time from the sikis biko agreement, all of these rulers are losers untill now 2007. 



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/19/2007 5:39:26 AM)

Dude. Because he's the best we have as far as I'm concerned. Why, do you have an alternative suggestion?



sadiq2006 -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/19/2007 11:11:39 AM)

i told you do not think about him he does not care about iraq not even since the 1920's and the 1930's from that time the iraqi governments never cared about iraq only wars and destruction and their own ambitions.

forget about him.  



Calm -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/19/2007 3:13:31 PM)

Mr mastermind Sadiq, who do you think is the best government for Iraq.




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/19/2007 10:03:00 PM)

My question to Sadiq is the same. If you are so sure Alawi isn't the right man then who is? Surely if Sadiq is certain Alawi doesn't cut the mustard then he has a definite opinion about who can. [8|] Or are we bashing our heads against a brick wall with this one? [:D]



sadiq2006 -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/20/2007 7:05:14 PM)

lion of babylon
 
ofcourse you are bashing your head against a brick wall with this one (just kidding).[:D][;)][:)]
 
come on man live a fact life and read the history very well from the time when mesopotamia (iraq) was it's indepentend from the ottoman empire and from the french and british envasion then you will all these iraqi are only bunch of losers like from the king faisal the first then you understand what i mean up until now 2007.   



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/20/2007 11:44:16 PM)

Alawi's solution for Iraq:

Next month, Gen. David Petraeus, commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, and Ambassador Ryan Crocker will report to Congress on the situation in my country. I expect that the testimony of these two good men will be qualified and nuanced, as politics requires.

I also expect that their assessment will not capture the totality of the tragedy -- that more than four years after its liberation from Saddam Hussein, Iraq is a failing state, not providing the most basic security and services to its people and contributing to an expanding crisis in the Middle East.

Let me be clear. Responsibility for the current mess in Iraq rests primarily with the Iraqi government, not with the United States. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has failed to take advantage of the Iraqi people's desire for peaceful and productive lives and of the enormous commitment and sacrifices made by the United States and other nations.

The expected "crisis summit" in Baghdad is further evidence of the near-complete collapse of the Iraqi government. The best outcome of the summit is perhaps a renewed effort or commitment for the participants to work together, which may buy a few more weeks or months of cosmetic political activity. But there will be no lasting political reconciliation under Maliki's sectarian regime.

Who could have imagined that Iraq would be in such crisis more than four years after Saddam Hussein? Each month 2,000 to 3,000 Iraqi civilians are killed by terrorists and sectarian death squads. Electricity and water are available, at best, for only five to six hours a day. Baghdad, once evidence of Iraq's cultural, ethnic and religious diversity, is now a city of armed sectarian enclaves -- much like Beirut of the 1980s.

It is up to Iraqis to end the violence and bring stability, security and democracy to our country. I am working with my colleagues in parliament to build a nonsectarian majority coalition that will support the following six-point plan for a "new era" in Iraq and replace through democratic means the current Iraqi government.

· Iraq must be a full partner with the United States in the development of a security plan that leads to the withdrawal of the majority of U.S. forces over the next two years, and that, before then, gradually and substantially reduces the U.S. combat role.

The United States is indispensable to peace and security in Iraq and the greater Middle East. But we owe it to America -- and, more important, to ourselves -- to start solving our own problems. This will not happen as long as the present government is in power.

· I propose declaring a state of emergency for Baghdad and all conflict areas. Iraq's security forces need to be reconstituted. Whenever possible, these reconstituted forces should absorb members of the sectarian and ethnic militias into a nonsectarian security command structure. Empowering militias is not a sustainable solution, because it perpetuates the tensions between communities and undermines the power and authority of the state. A state has no legitimacy if it cannot provide security.

· We need a regional diplomatic strategy that increasingly invests the United Nations and the Arab world in Iraqi security and reconstruction. Washington should not shoulder this diplomatic burden alone, as it largely has until now. Prime Minister Maliki has squandered Iraq's credibility in Arab politics, and he cannot restore it. In addition, Iraq needs to be more assertive in telling Iran to end its interference in Iraqi affairs and in persuading Syria to play a more constructive role in Iraq.

· Iraq must be a single, independent federal state. We should empower local and provincial institutions at the expense of sectarian politics and an all-powerful and overbearing Baghdad. Religion should be a unifying -- not divisive -- force in my country. Iraqis, both Sunni and Shiite, should take pride in their Islamic identity. But when religious sectarianism dominates politics, terrorists and extremists emerge as the sole winners.

· National reconciliation requires an urgent commitment to moderation and ending sectarian violence by integrating all Iraqis into the political process. We should recognize the contribution of the Kurds and the Kurdistan Regional Government to Iraq's democratic future.

Reconciliation requires the active engagement of prominent Iraqi Shiite and Sunni political and religious leaders. Maliki has stalled the passage of legislation, proposed in March, to reverse de-Baathification. That proposal should be passed immediately.

· The Iraqi economy has been handicapped by corruption and inadequate security. We must emphasize restoration of the most basic infrastructure. There can be no sustainable economic development and growth without reliable electricity, running and potable water, and basic health care. Over time, Iraq needs to build a free-market economy with a prominent role for the private sector.

It is past time for change at the top of the Iraqi government. Without that, no American military strategy or orderly withdrawal will succeed, and Iraq and the region will be left in chaos.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...d=opinionsbox1



sadiq2006 -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/21/2007 12:16:26 PM)

lion of babylon
 
iraq was never a fail state it is because of those crazy governments in iraq who does not know how to lead iraq in a proper way that's it.



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/21/2007 10:38:29 PM)

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sadiq2006
lion of babylon
 
ofcourse you are bashing your head against a brick wall with this one (just kidding).[:D][;)][:)]
 
come on man live a fact life and read the history very well from the time when mesopotamia (iraq) was it's indepentend from the ottoman empire and from the french and british envasion then you will all these iraqi are only bunch of losers like from the king faisal the first then you understand what i mean up until now 2007.


Dude, you still didn't answer my question........As you think Alawi isn't the right man for the job what do you think is the solution for Iraq?



sadiq2006 -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/22/2007 12:37:56 PM)

lion of babylon
 
the proper man for iraq is who iraq history very well and knows the atitude if the iraqis and culture and cares for them not for himself and read the black history days of iraq of they suffured and humilated in the past and understand the situation for the iraqis and brings them back to light and great wonderful future for mesopotamia (iraq) and feel jelous for iraq and kind and loving for iraq and like i said not only for himself and also most importantly to back to allah mighty god words and do what prophet mohammed (peace be upon him) said and learn his teachings and to respect all the ethinics and the culture of mesopotamia (iraq) and the people around the world will fear iraq and more and more as the greatest country in the world.   



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/22/2007 3:07:45 PM)

OK Dude, and who is this knight in shining armour?



sadiq2006 -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/23/2007 10:21:27 AM)

lion of babylon
 
i told you the man in shining armour who goes in the teachings of allah the mighty god and teachings of prophet mohammed (peace be upon him) then the iraqi people and the past mistakes and never live in a fantasy land that does and never excisted.

take for istance shiek zayed bin sultan al nahyan (god bless his soul).  



sadiq2006 -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/23/2007 10:24:24 AM)

lion of babylon

and do not forget that allah the might god said in his holy words in the quran book :(allah will never change any nation of the human kind until they change themselves (it means their heart and mind).

and look at japan how they changed because they know their past mistakes and they changed that is why the world respects them and also look at europe.



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/23/2007 12:01:06 PM)

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i told you the man in shining armour who goes in the teachings of allah the mighty god and teachings of prophet mohammed (peace be upon him) then the iraqi people and the past mistakes and never live in a fantasy land that does and never excisted.


Dude, theres no one to fit that description so we are wasting out time with this one. If you have a candidate that is real and not imaginary please let me know!

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take for istance shiek zayed bin sultan al nahyan (god bless his soul).


Now he wasn't democratically elected so that puts him out of the running because having a dictator rule Iraq again is out of the question.....at least according to some on this forum! [8|]

Seriously though, Sheik Zayid has done an amazing job. We would be lucky to have someone like him rule our country. Thats what I think anyway.



sadiq2006 -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/23/2007 5:56:38 PM)

lion of babylon
 
if you a candidate it should from the iraqi people and the one who have and dinity and loyalty to iraq, not to himself and i am sure 100% there is one but the iraqi should searching.[&o]  



sadiq2006 -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/23/2007 5:58:03 PM)

lion of babylon
 
if you want a candidate it should from the iraqi people and the one who have dinity and loyalty to iraq, not to himself and i am sure 100% there is one but the iraqi should keep searching.[&o]  



saifali -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/23/2007 6:08:11 PM)

Mr sadiq
do n't cair with this speaking Alawi was dead from politic and his party seprated so each member works alone and he is stell love America.................etc



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Alawi might be back in power by Eid Al Fitir! (8/23/2007 11:25:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL Sadiq2006
if you want a candidate it should from the iraqi people and the one who have dinity and loyalty to iraq, not to himself and i am sure 100% there is one but the iraqi should keep searching.[&o]


Dude. And in the meantime who is going to run the country or should we just forget about the government and have a big party instead?



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