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Lion of Babylon -> Where has all our oil gone? (6/14/2007 2:44:23 AM)

What the hell is going on? [:@] No electricity, no security, no peace of mind. Why can't they at least produce enough petrol for people to live on? Where is all our oil going?
 
Battling Baghdad's petrol crisis
Filling up your car in Baghdad these days means organising a minor expedition, with the capital in the grip of a new fuel crisis.
 
Fuel shortages have become a fact of life for Iraqis since the US and British invasion, despite their country's vast oil reserves. But the situation has dramatically worsened in the past month. The government blames the continuing violence and particularly recent attacks on major road bridges which have seriously disrupted traffic into the city. Long queues of cars outside petrol stations, snaking round several blocks, have again become a regular sight. Stories of people waiting all day in the blazing summer heat are common. They are at serious risk too. As the lines of cars have grown, so too have the number of insurgent attacks. There were two bombings aimed at petrol queues last weekend in which at least 10 people were killed and injured. Even then they often have to drive away on the last few drops of petrol in their tanks, because the pumps are dry by the time their turn comes.
 
Detailed plans
Those who can afford it get round the problem by buying all their fuel from black market sellers. But the price is high - more than double the government subsidised price of 400 dinars a litre, about 30 cents. Cheap in comparison to Western prices, but not for poorly paid Iraqis. To try to beat the petrol queues and stay safe, people now have to make detailed plans. One of our office staff - I will call him Mahmoud - got up at 0330 recently, hoping to be first in line at a nearby state-owned petrol station.But the city is under curfew at that time and there is an Iraqi army checkpoint outside.
 
It would be dangerous to go there without having secured their permission beforehand. So the evening before, Mahmoud went to the checkpoint with a group of neighbours to clear their plans. There was greater safety they decided in going as a group. Next morning they all set off together. After identifying themselves to the soldiers they moved to the petrol station. But other drivers had already got there. Many others.
 
Generators needed
Three hours later, the petrol station opened and one of its staff - whose sole job is to supervise the queue - walked down the line giving a number to each car. The petrol lines have become very organised now.
 
"I was given number 131," Mahmoud told me with a resigned shrug. The number was written in green ink on his windscreen. "When the man returned, he said the last car in the queue was number 900."
 
The queue went back through a whole neighbourhood of side streets.
Four hours after that, eight hours after he had woken up, Mahmoud finally reached the pumps and filled up. But the attendants were rationing each car to 50 litres. Anyone coming in with jerry cans was turned away, to prevent them selling the fuel on the black market.
But petrol stations are more sympathetic to the lines of women you often see queuing up with smaller plastic cans.
 
They need the fuel to keep their generators running to power appliances such as fridges and air conditioners. Summer always brings a hike in fuel demand because with electricity supplies as patchy as ever, most Baghdadis still depend on generators. "At night, you often can't sleep unless you have the air conditioning," says Mahmoud. "Especially the children."
 
Bridge attacks
Iraq's oil ministry admits there is a crisis. But a spokesman said "there is little we can do" because of the attacks on bridges which have seriously disrupted fuel tanker traffic into the city".
 
Extra army checkpoints set up to prevent more such bombings have made things worse, with many fuel trucks not being allowed through. There have also been more attacks on pipelines.
 
"It is too dangerous for our engineers to reach one of the damaged sections near Mahmudiya" - an area south of Baghdad that is a known insurgent hotbed - said the oil ministry spokesman. With three more attacks on bridges leading into Baghdad in the past three days there is little chance the situation will improve.



Calm -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (6/14/2007 11:32:10 PM)

I was talking to someone just two days ago, right or wrong, he said that Iraq is losing one million barrels of oil every few days.  Large ships are docking in the south, filled and away they go like clockwork.  No one knows who is getting paid for these shipments, no one knows where they heading, except its leaving a bitter taste in the mouth if anyone ever spoke about it.
When the country is on its knees, there isn't much anyone can do to protect it. 
God bless our protectors....!



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (6/19/2007 12:32:47 AM)

Hey Zorba Dude. The black stuff thats being stolen from Iraq is crude oil. We have enough of that to supply the whole of Asia. Why arent the refineries producing enough Benzine to fill cars and generators? Its been over 4 years and millions of $$$ have been spent to upgrade our facilities so whats the story here? As you said whos being paid to ship out the oil and where are all the monies for modernising our oil facilities going? When I hear the term REBUILD IRAQ, it makes me feel sick. They should call it "THIEVING IRAQ".



Calm -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (6/21/2007 7:53:40 PM)

I wish i have the answers LOB.  Why haven't we got electricity, water, postal service, rubbish collection...
Maybe we can add a few things to that list
Freedom....Peace....Law and Order....Harmony between all the people....
if we have those things, do you care why there is shortage on anything?



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (6/23/2007 4:20:44 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Calm

I wish i have the answers LOB.  Why haven't we got electricity, water, postal service, rubbish collection...
Maybe we can add a few things to that list
Freedom....Peace....Law and Order....Harmony between all the people....
if we have those things, do you care why there is shortage on anything?


Hi Zorba. If I was living in Iraq I would expect the basic services especialy electricity at this time of year. Can you imagine people having to go to work in that polluted atmosphere, taking their lives in their hands and then coming home to crying kids with nothing to keep them cool in this heat? In the old days people used to sleep on the roof but now they can't even do this because of the risk of stray bullets and bombs. I cant even contemplate living in this way. I dont know where they find the strength to survive.

If they gave the shaab electricity then people might just stand up to the criminals because they can see, literaly, the government are doing something positive. When they feel the government cares about them they might just start to believe in some kind of future. [:(]



zimzim -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (6/23/2007 11:09:31 AM)

Hi LOB and Calm. I think it is true that if we had electricity life would be so much better in Iraq. But there is still the problem that there are many bad ppl in our country who do not want us to have anything. They are making us live like animals and the ones who are responsible are our own ppl. I dont know how I live in Baghdad now I have electricity 24 hrs a day, security and I feel safe to walk in the streets without fear. But this is in Syria. [:(][:(][:(]



zimzim -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (6/23/2007 11:20:23 AM)

I want to ask everybody a question and I am sure some of you will be angry after you read what I have to say. Why dont we just let the americans control our oil? If they want to get the maximum capacity they will have to fix our refineries and update all the systems. Let then have it for 10 years and after we will take control and all our facilities will be working perfect. Let them modernise the country because we need it. During Saddam era we had nothing new so why dont we learn from them and then ask them to leave? Its better than killing each other and then we have no working facilities once the USA has left or am I being very naive? [8|]



azinorum -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (6/26/2007 2:33:28 PM)

Actually its not a bad idea but sadly too late to implement it now. Too many factions with differing interests have been allowed to take hold in Iraq. This is what we should have done from the start. As you have said we should have let the Americans take some of our oil, let the European/Japanese/American companies rehabilitate and re-build our infrastructure and then kick them out.



sadiq2006 -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (6/26/2007 6:35:43 PM)

this very important about the kurds to show you how they are thieves read it ver important and the iraqi situation is very critical and the kurds are using in their advantages :

في كتاب راندل الذي اسمه أمة في شقاق: دروب كردستان كما سلكتها،       1997 الذي يعتبر من الكتب التي صورة هولوكست الكردي للرأي العام العالمي من خلال مساعدة  صديقه سايمون فيزنتال الذي يعتبر اليوم حامي رقم ستة ملايين ضحية في محرقة النازية لليهود وله الفضل في سن قوانيين اوربية وامريكية تعاقب كل من يقول ان الرقم اقل من ستة ملايين.
 
نعود الى الكاتب راندل وعندما يذكر هذا المقطع من كتابه امة في شقاق,
(لقد ساعدني فيزنتال على فهم ما يجري في كردستان العراق، فالعقوبات الفظيعة التي مارسها صدام ضد الأكراد، كانت أسوأ بكثير مما أنزله نبوخذ نصر باليهود، طبقا للعهد القديم، لكنه إذا كان قد تم إنقاذ الشخصيات التوراتية، إلا أنه لم يتم إنقاذ أكراد العراق، فقد استخدمت الأسلحة الكيماوية ضدهم، ودمرت قراهم، كما قتل نظام صدام عشرات الألوف منهم في مجازر جماعية وهناك عمليات إعدام عشوائية (كان صدام يتفنن في تدبيرها).
 
هنا نلاحظ ان مصدر الهام فيزنتال لصديقه راندل هو  سفر دانيال النبي (الإصحاح الثالث) حيث يتهم البابليون بإلقاء الشخصيات التوراتية في حفرة مليئة بالقطران, اي محاولة ربط بين ما فعله هتلر وصدام والتاريخ القديم وهذا  ما تحاول ان تثبته الصهيونية العالمية مع شعوب تتعاون معها في مشروعها الاحتلالي للمنطقة.
ويروي راندل هذا المقطع في كتابه والذي تتجاهله وسائل اعلام الأكراد وكتابهم  لانه  يدين الأكراد بالعمالة بدون ان يعرفوا  حال مقطع اخر سوف اذكره لاحقاً  أن البارزاني الأب ردّ مرة على الأسئلة التي وجهها إليه وفد من النساء الفلسطينيات عن علاقته مع “إسرائيل”، قائلاً: "أنا مثل الشحاذ الأعمى الواقف عند باب الجامع الكبير في مدينة السليمانية، والعاجز عن رؤية من يضع في يده الممدودة، قطعة نقدية".
 
وفي حادثة اخرى يسوقها راندل، تشهد على ان الاكراد مأخوذون ، الى درجة الدهشة، بأصحاب العيون الزرق من الاميركيين، فما ان يأمروهم حتى يطيعوا، وما ان يصرخوا بهم حتى ينفض الاشتباك في ما بينهم، راندل. يقول: كنت في سيارة من طراز لاندروفر عندما التقى باصان مملوءان بالاكراد قادمان من جهتين متعاكستين، على طريق ضيقة فتحتها كاسحة الثلوج الوحيدة في المنطقة. ولم يرضَ اي من سائقي الباصين بأن يفسح في المجال امام الآخر للمرور، ولم يكن هناك من سبيل لمرورهما معاً. ومرت دقائق قبل ان ينزل ركاب الباصين فجأة، ويبدأوا بضرب بعضهم بعضا بعدما تذكروا، او تظاهروا بتذكر خلافات قديمة في ما بينهم، ولأن تبادل اللكمات لم يهدأ، ولأن جميع الرجال كانوا مسلحين، مثل اي كردي يحترم نفسه، برشاشات من طراز كلاشينكوف، وخوفا من حصول مجزرة دموية، تناولت رفشا من السيارة، وأزلت الثلج عن احد جانبي الطريق بما يكفي لوقوف سيارتي وأحد الباصين، ثم صرخت على الاكراد وقلت لهم إنني في عجلة من امري، ومع انهم لم يفهموا كلمة واحدة مما صحت به باللغة الانكليزية، لكن يظهر انني بدوت لهم غاضبا الى درجة انهم توقفوا فجأة عن تبادل اللكمات، وصعدوا بارتباك الى الباصين, نعم سيد راندل انت على حق في ذلك ان الساسة الأكراد لا يعرفون اليوم سوى المحتلين ولا يخدمون سوى المشاريع التي تؤدي الى تقسيم العراق.
 
وهنا نورد بعض الامور التي تم ذكرها في الكتاب ونربطها مع ما دار في جلسات المحكمة لقضية الانفال لكي يطلع عليها  القارئ, أورد الادعاء العام، أن هناك ما بين أربعة آلاف وخمسة آلاف قرية كردية، كان قد دمرها نظام صدام في حملات الأنفال، فيما يرد رقم أربعة آلاف ومئتين وأربعين قرية كردية دمرها نظام صدام حسب أرقام "راندل" في كتابه ، بإضافة عبارة (حتى اليوم) أي يوم كتابته لفصول كتابه عام 1997. أما الفارق بين "راندل" والادعاء العراقي، فيقع في أخلاقية الأمانة التاريخية، فـ"راندل" يعتبر أن واقعة القرى الكردية المدمرة، كانت قد بدأت مع هزيمة التمرد الكردي عام 1975 وحتى نهاية عام 1996، أي لمدة تقع في عشرين سنة، فيما يلفق المدعي العام عديد القرى المدمرة في حملات الأنفال ولمدة ثمانية أشهر، وحتى لو اعتبرنا أن (التدمير المنهجي) للقرى الكردية، كما في عبارات الادعاء، كان قد انتهى مع شتاء عام 1991 (موعد المناطق المحمية من الأمريكيين بعد عاصفة الصحراء)، فأن المدة الزمنية حسب "راندل"، تكون ستة عشر عاما وليست ثمانية أشهر، حسب مبالغات المدعي العام.

وفي كتاب اخر  ل" بول بريمر في مذكراته "عام قضيته في العراق، 2006" وفي إطار توصيفه للبارزاني: مسعود البرزاني أقل دماثة من طالباني وهو زعيم قبيلة كردية كبيرة في أقصى الشمال الشرقي للبلاد، محارب صلب، وهو قصير القامة مكتنز البنية، انحسر الشعر في رأسه فبدا شبيها بالقذيفة. وكانت عيناه الصغيرتان تتميزان بالحذر، والقوم (الأكراد) يصغون إليه". ويضيف: "البارزاني حالة صعبة، وهو يكره بغداد جداً، محارب معتاد على المكائد والمناورات، إنه رجل ذو ذاكرة بعيدة", نعم بول بريمر هذا هو البارزاني الذي يعرفه الجميع يكره العراق ويكره حتى السليمانية التي فاتلته في حرب الأخوة.
 
وهنا نصل الى السؤال الذي يتهرب منه الجميع  هل ان حملة الانفال ضد الأكراد كانت بسبب انهم اكراد ام انها تجسيد  لمخيلة سايمون فيزنتال عندما صور هولوكست اليهود لانهم يهود ؟ولماذا لا يتم ذكر لحرب كانت تجري في المنطقة والتي تحالف فيها الطالباني والبارزاني مع ايران ضد بلدهم العراق الذين هم اليوم يطالبون بنسبة 17% من نفطه؟ واننا نسأل سيد بوش حامي الديمقراطية لو حدثت حرب بين امريكا وكوبا وقاتل امريكان مع كوبا ضد بلادهم  هل سوف يوزع لهم الحلوة ام انه سوف يقاتلهم كما يقاتل الجنود الكوبيين؟ ولماذا لا يحاكم الطالباني والبارزاني على جرائمهم ضد  الأكراد والعراقيين؟ومنى ترتاح عوائل الشهداء العراقيين من التركمان والعرب والأشوريين الذين قتلوا على يد البشمركة المتحالفة مع ايران مثل ما ارتاحت عوائل  حملة الانفال ؟وايضاً  ان سبب كل  القتل الذي يحدث للاكراد هو بسبب سياسيهم الذين جعلوا من شعبهم ادوات في يد من يحاولون ان يقسموا العراق ويدمروه  , ومتى يا ساسة الاكراد تستفادوا من دروس الماضي التي اكدت على جهلكم في القراءة السياسية للمنطقة؟ والى متى تبقون تقتلون شعبكم من اجل مصالحكم العشائرية والشخصية ؟ والى متى يبقى عقلكم السياسي عاجز عن مراجعة تجاربكم الفاشلة ؟ والى متى تبقوا تطبقون مثلكم الذي يقول ان القتال افضل من البطالة.
 
العراقي تاج فوك الراس



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (6/27/2007 3:47:57 AM)

العراقي تاج فوك الراس = Correct! words from an Iraqi Patriot = Sadiq2006! [8|]



YellowSunshine -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (6/27/2007 3:53:23 AM)

x short again

$$$, to the LOVERS of $

We KNOW...

where they're "oil" went/is going





YellowSunshine -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (6/27/2007 3:55:35 AM)

[:@]  Many days toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
late
many $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$4too short



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (6/28/2007 4:43:05 AM)

YS, whats the general consensus about whats taking place in Iraq on your side of the world? And what will happen when GMB is finally out of office? [8|]



zimzim -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/3/2007 1:41:55 PM)

Where did YS go again???? [8|]



zimzim -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/3/2007 1:45:28 PM)

The Kurdish say this is not constitutional but if they discover oil in Kurdistan will they share with the rest of Iraq?[8|]  Iraqi cabinet backs draft oil law  Iraq's government has approved an amended draft law on how to share the country's oil wealth, Prime Minister Nouri Maliki has said.
Mr Maliki said the bill, which will now be passed to parliament to be debated, was the "most important law in Iraq".
However, the cabinet is yet to endorse deals such as revenue sharing and the creation of a national oil company.
In addition, a parliamentary boycott by some Sunni and Shia factions is expected to slow the bill's passage.
'Varied views'
The US has been pressing Iraq to pass an oil law, as part of efforts to promote reconciliation among the country's religious and ethnic groups.
But the BBC's Jim Muir, in Baghdad, says that Iraqi politics is in greater disarray than at any time since the 2003 invasion, and the bill's progress is unlikely to be smooth.
Despite assurances from Mr Maliki that the bill will be debated in parliament shortly, all Sunni factions and the 30 MPs allied to radical Shia cleric Moqtada Sadr are boycotting the chamber.
In addition, rival groups - including Kurdish factions - also disagree on key elements of the bill.
Oil ministry spokesman Assim Jihad said different groups had "varied views on the role of the state-run oil company, the ministry, and on discovered and undiscovered oil fields".
He said these would be debated during the bill's passage through parliament.
The distribution of oil revenues is also a key concern for Sunni Arab groups, who live in areas which are mostly without oil reserves.
The original draft, approved by the cabinet in February, stipulated that a state oil company would take control of oilfields away from regional governments.
But Kurdish organisations said such moves were unconstitutional.
They reached agreement with the government in June that the authorities in Iraqi Kurdistan would receive 17% of all oil revenues.
Iraq's known oil reserves have been estimated at 115 billion barrels, but production has fallen drastically since the US-led invasion on 2003.



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/4/2007 5:13:46 AM)

Forget it zimo. The Kurds want to have it both ways. The US protected them throughout the 90's and they are mentality locked in to "Kurdistan is for the Kurds only" mentality. That doesn't stop them from wanting a piece of the rest of the cake though. [X(]



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/4/2007 5:15:35 AM)

Barazani and Talabani. True hamanitarians....NOT!! [:D]

Iraqi Kurds 'tortured prisoners'
By Jim Muir
BBC News, Baghdad
 
The US-based rights group, Human Rights Watch, has issued a report detailing torture and abuses in security prisons in the Kurdish area of northern Iraq.
It found a consistent pattern of abuse involving detainees being subjected to beatings and stress positions, and allegations of electric shock torture. The Kurds have been running their own affairs there since the early 1990s.
HRW said the authorities had responded seriously to its concerns, but that it had not yet led to better conditions. The group pointed out that it was unusual to be able to produce a report on any part of Iraq. Its request for access to detention facilities run by the Iraqi government and by the US-led coalition have been consistently denied. But, its researchers were allowed free random access to all security facilities in Iraqi Kurdistan. They were able to talk to 158 prisoners without anybody else being present.
 
'Denied due process'
The researchers found a consistent pattern of abuse involving subjection to beatings and prolonged periods in stress positions, and a few cases where torture with electric shocks was also alleged. Detainees, often terrorist suspects, were routinely denied due process, including access to lawyers, the bringing of charges, and any kind of appeal. Leaders from both the two main Kurdish parties, the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) and the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), pledged to deal with the issues raised by the report.

Human Rights Watch said a number of steps had already been taken, but that they had not yet led to any direct improvement for most of the hundreds of detainees. The security prisons under investigation are run by security forces known as Asayish, which are attached to the two main Kurdish political parties. They are outside the authority of the Kurdistan regional government and its interior ministry.



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/5/2007 4:26:06 AM)

Finally the truth is out! The Ausiies admit they went to Iraq for the oil. Now lets hear the same from the USA and UK. Enough lies.

Australians 'are in Iraq for oil'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6272168.stm
 
Australia has admitted that securing oil is a key factor behind its continued troop deployment in Iraq.


It is the first time such an admission has been made. Defence Minister Brendan Nelson said that maintaining "resource security" in the Middle East was a priority for the government in Canberra. But he added that the main reason troops were still in the Gulf was to ensure that the humanitarian crisis there did not worsen. Australia was involved in the invasion of Iraq in 2003, and has about 1,500 military personnel still deployed in the region. There are no immediate plans to bring them home.
 
Howard accused
Releasing the government's review of its national security policy, Mr Nelson said that the supply of oil had influenced strategic planning.

"The defence update we're releasing today sets out many priorities for Australia's defence and security, and resource security is one of them," he said.

"Obviously the Middle East itself, not only Iraq but the entire region, is an important supplier of energy, oil in particular, to the rest of the world."

Critics have accused the Australian government of telling lies about Iraq. Opposition politicians said that back in 2003, Prime Minister John Howard insisted the campaign to oust former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with oil.
They have chastised Mr Howard, accusing him of making up his policy in the Gulf as he goes along. Anti-war protesters say the government's admission has proved that the US-led invasion was more of a grab for oil rather than a genuine attempt to uncover weapons of mass destruction.

But ministers in Canberra have brushed aside the criticism, saying they remain committed to helping the US stabilise Iraq and combat terrorism. They have also stressed that there will be no "premature withdrawal" of Australian forces from the region.



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/5/2007 4:31:57 AM)

Does anyone agree with this new oil Law??? If not then why did they pass it???

Sadrists Voice "Reservations" over Oil Law
List of Forces Opposed to New Draft Measure Growing
 
The Sadrist bloc in the Iraqi parliament has announced its reservations over the draft oil law approved by the Iraqi government and sent to the Parliament for a vote over the next week, al-Melaf reports in Arabic. The Sadrist current, loyal to the young Shi'a cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, said that its reservations over the law included the demand that a paragraph be added that would forbid the signing of any contract with any country that has military forces in Iraq, according to al-Melaf.
 
The Sadrist current affirmed that it would hold to this position even if it ended its suspension of participation in the Iraqi parliament, the agency writes. MPs loyal to Muqtada al-Sadr suspended their participation in Parliament after a bombing destroyed the golden minarets of the al-Askari shrine in Samarra which houses the remains of two Shi'a imams, and have said they would not return to the chamber until reconstruction activities begin on the structure.
 
The draft oil law is stirring up controversy as several key players voice their opposition or reservations to the advancing law. Both the Kurdish regional government and the largest Sunni Arab bloc in Parliament --considered to be on opposite sides of the oil law debate -- have said that they were not consulted in the negotiations that led to an amended version of the oil law clearing the Iraqi cabinet this week and moving to the full Parliament for deliberations.
 
The Tawafuq Front, the largest Sunni Arab bloc in Parliament, has suspended its participation in the Iraqi parliament in protest of moves to oust the body’s speaker, Mahmoud al-Mashhadani, and also has suspended its ministers from participating in the Iraqi government over attempts to bring legal action against the minister of culture, Asad al-Hashemi. Both men are affiliated with the Tawafuq Front. A Tawafuq spokesman, Salim al-Jubouri, said that the bloc would seek to amend the draft law, although it was not seeking to derail it.
 
Another prominent Sunni political force, the Association of Muslim Scholars of Iraq, who issued a religious interpretation (fatwa) saying that it was unlawful to vote on the measure, as it would cede control of Iraq’s resources to foreigners. The Kurdish regional government issued a statement saying that it has not seen the draft, nor approved it, Reuters reports.
 
"We hope the cabinet is not approving a text with which the KRG disagrees because this would violate the constitutional rights of the Kurdistan region," said the statement. This is not the first time that the government has attempted to advance the oil law. In fact, the law “advanced” to parliament in February, but the measure remained stalemated. The US has backed the oil law for months, and has included it in a list of “benchmarks,” or indicators of Iraqi progress in reconstruction and political reconciliation according to Washington’s measures.
 
The Parliament is due for a month-long recess at the end of July. If the law is not approved by then, it seems unlikely that it will make the list of “benchmarks” to be presented to Congress by US commander Gen. David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker.



zimzim -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/7/2007 12:56:15 AM)

Hi everyone. Can you explain what the oil law is and why so many ppl dont agree with it? Thank you. [:)]



azinorum -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/13/2007 11:05:12 AM)

Hi zim. Basically US and British companies will be entitled to 75% of Iraq's oil revenues. This is why everyone is objecting to it.



YellowSunshine -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/13/2007 11:06:41 AM)

All "OUR" Oil has gone into pocket of the LOVERS of MONEY!  GAG BIG TIME!!!



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/13/2007 1:28:11 PM)

quote:


All "OUR" Oil has gone into pocket of the LOVERS of MONEY!  GAG BIG TIME!!!


Correctamundo!!



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/17/2007 11:27:35 PM)

Iraqi Technorats Prepare Critique of Oil Law100+ Experts Sign Letter Calling for Strong Central Control of Resources WASHINGTON, July 17 (UPI) -- More than 100 Iraqi oil, economic and legal experts sent a letter to Iraq's Parliament urging it to consider their critique of the draft oil law. A senior Iraqi government official was also given a copy and agreed with the technocrats' assessment. "With our conviction for the need of a law to organize the upstream sector and its development, and due to its extreme importance, we emphasize the importance of acting steadily," the letter states, "and not rushing its issuance before enriching it with more discussions and carry out amendments that ensure the interest of all the Iraqi people."

The letter calls for a strong central government arm in maintaining and developing Iraq's vast oil and gas sector, though with the "participation of the regions and the governorates in the operations of planning, implementation and management within a comprehensive vision that ensures the maximum benefits for the whole people of Iraq."

The oil law has been in negotiations since last summer. The Kurds claim the rights to strong regional control over their share of Iraq's 115 billion barrels of proven while others want a varied amount of central control. Also at issue is how the sector may be opened up to foreign, private investment. Iraq produces 2 million barrels per day, of which more than 75 percent are sent to the global market. The letter, signed by 108 experts, calls for the oil law to be put on hold until ongoing constitutional wrangling is completed. "There are ongoing discussions aiming to amend the Iraqi constitution, including the items relating to oil and gas," it states. "Hence we do not see, from the legal and technical point of view, the necessity to enact the law presented to you now before the constitutional amendments are finalized."

The senior Iraqi official, speaking on condition of anonymity, called for a thorough examination of the law, especially as the U.S. benchmarks requiring the law's passage by September loom large. "I think it's a legitimate call," the official said. "This law is going to affect our lives; it's going to affect the lives of our children."

Ben Lando - United Press International, Inc.



sadiq2006 -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/20/2007 7:54:55 PM)

Miss. zimzim

everyone wants to play with the mesopotamian oil for their own benefit not for the iraqis, DO NOT TRUST THE KURDS FOR ANYTHING THEY SAY PLEASE MISS. ZIMZIM DO NOT TRUST THEM THEY ARE LIERS AND STEALERS FROM THE OTER PEOPLS LANDS DO NOT TRUST THEM, THEY ONLY TRUST THE DEVIL HIMSELF AND FOR THEIR CRAZY AMBITIONS AND GOD BLESS YOU.  



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