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Calm -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/20/2007 8:35:23 PM)

You Back barking, thought you were dead sadiq.  Oh wow...[:@]




scourgeofthegod -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/20/2007 8:56:45 PM)

that is called illusion. oil is in pocket of money makers. the only tools to make iraq welfare is long gone with the help of zimzims. why you guys let kurds to occupy your oil lands. I seen some posts here from arabs defending kurds against Turks. have you had any trouble from your turk brothers ? dont trap into kurds game, they are drunk with dream of freedom. today they will tell you how nice you are , tomorrow backstabbing.  




FlyByBaghdad -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/21/2007 9:33:06 AM)

 In reply to the question of where our oil has gone?? Our oil is being shipped in ((DUBAA’s)) from the south to waiting tankers in the Gulf. How it is been done?? Well, it is done under the watchful eyes of the coalition forces, then where the money of that oil is going?? Well, that is a very good question which I have no answer for. Iraq is floating on a sea of Oil and yet, people pay 20,000 Dinars for a gas cylinder, and wait hours and hours to fill their cars, this is a joke.      




YellowSunshine -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/21/2007 9:40:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: zimzim

I want to ask everybody a question and I am sure some of you will be angry after you read what I have to say. Why dont we just let the americans control our oil? If they want to get the maximum capacity they will have to fix our refineries and update all the systems. Let then have it for 10 years and after we will take control and all our facilities will be working perfect. Let them modernise the country because we need it. During Saddam era we had nothing new so why dont we learn from them and then ask them to leave? Its better than killing each other and then we have no working facilities once the USA has left or am I being very naive? [8|]


hey Zimmers this is indeed a very interesting proposition you have here!  i will be contemplating this one in my busy brain!
love ya girl
me




YellowSunshine -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/21/2007 9:49:29 AM)

Over "here" you mean?  This is another mess!  Supposedly the stock market is soaring,employment awesome, etc.. GAG!  I just see higher and higher gas prices, everything costs more $ than anyx in history. 

Okay, hear goes, the God of this world getting his stronghold more daily.  Self being a christian I see the writing on the wall. 

When my good buddy, "mr. ride um cowboy" goes off into the sunset on his pony, whom knows,  Ms. Billary Clinton, years ago made a statement regarding the welfare of children in schools and something to the effect that the schools/government needed more control than the parents, EXCUSE ME folks, what is WRONG with this picture?  This woman I do NOT trust period.

Obama may be the better choice as far as democrats go, perhaps he is not as "crafty" as the Clintons.  Republicans, who knows, Mr. Rudy was awesome in the 911 aftermath that may be enough to get him well on the road.  However, there are some questions as to the building that strangely collapsed on that day.  If memory serves me correct much paperwork/etc., was destroyed there where Mr. Rudy kept his things.  Could be wrong, no x to play/study my collection of info. at present.  Independents do NOT get the support they often need for this RACE.  Sigh.  

Oprah for President, myself for VP.   That is what I propose.  Oh Rachel Ray as Chef.   She cooks similar to self and her mouth flaps as fast as my own.  We 3 woman could get much done!  Somex's indeed takes a woman to do a mans job, at least direct it.  Oh, Tyra Bank, she'd have to be with us also, perhaps she could do the shopping for the White House, this woman shops like self, BARGAINS, instead of spending tons of $ that could be used for other things like assisting the innocents/children!

LOL

me




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/24/2007 10:56:16 PM)

Ride Um Cowboy seems to have a GWB - White house fixation! or does he think he is the President of the USA? [:D]




YellowSunshine -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/25/2007 9:35:33 AM)

I think this DUDE is scitsooooooooooooo.  Simple!




FlyByBaghdad -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/25/2007 1:12:17 PM)

I suggest that an IQ test is preformed on all US presidentioal candidates, a clown like GWB should never take office again[:D]




YellowSunshine -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/25/2007 4:53:08 PM)

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oh again have issues with my computer, imagine that
the comments@thewhitehouse.com has appeared at present to have a block on my emails, imagine that.
dah
GAG
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sadiq2006 -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/26/2007 9:36:07 AM)

the american US presidentioal candidates they never ahd any in their life an IQ test because they are always naive in their politics.  




sadiq2006 -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/26/2007 9:37:33 AM)

the american US presidentioal candidates they never had any in their life an IQ test because they are always naive in their politics and never learn their mistakes from the past and still ignorent and sellfish.   




YellowSunshine -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (7/26/2007 12:31:48 PM)

Sadiq, Hat's Off to U!  The politicians r often just actors, or shall we say puppets!  simple.
hugs
me




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (8/4/2007 5:46:39 AM)

OK dudes, so we cant produce enough oil to satisfy demand. Doesn't Baghdad sit on a BIG RIVER????? How come we cant produce enough fresh water to satisfy Western Baghdad?

Western Baghdad Loses Water in Summer Heat
Some Areas Without Fresh Water for Nearly a Week

With temperatures in Iraq edging close to 120 degrees Fahrenheit, there could not be a more dangerously inconvenient time for Baghdad's decrepit infrastructure to fail on the delivery of water.

Residents and city officials said large sections in the west of the capital had been virtually dry for six days because the already strained electricity grid cannot provide sufficient power to run water purification and pumping stations, according to the AP.

Adel al-Ardawi, a spokesman for the Baghdad city government, said that even with sufficient electricity "it would take 24 hours for the water mains to refill so we can begin pumping to residents. And even then the water won't be clean for a time."

Noah Miller, spokesman for the U.S. reconstruction program in Baghdad, said that water treatment plants were working "as far as we know."

"It could be a host of issues. . . . And one of those may be leaky trunk lines. If there's not enough pressure to cancel out that leakage, that's when the water could fail to reach the household," Miller said.




YellowSunshine -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (8/4/2007 12:26:08 PM)

Hey does Rideumcowboy have oil in his own backyard, now since he dopted jeffro (beverleee hillbilly)...

I have been having MANY "brain farts" lately.  Nothing new for me.  Just doing the "manic 5/10 fingered thing" then research somewhat after the fact.  Sigh..., LOL is a must!  2 bad that this program wasn't real as these folks appeared to be somewhat backward, but appeared to have [sm=smiley27.gif]'s!  A MUST folks, MUST do we that SEE/feel (have [sm=smiley31.gif][sm=smiley27.gif]) muchccchooo.  So, my friends pls. have patience with me and my postings, xing may be off as some may notice.  Then again, may be right on, who knows?

The Beverly Hillbilly's show was about a family that found oil in their own backyard, lesson here, we OFTEN have much in our own "back/FRONT yard" just do not see it.  Everybody Awake folks, A MUST, self included.

Oh, sideline note to Harry, It Tis Friday Bud, Dude, Uncle Harry, Dad. luv ya.

me








YellowSunshine -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (8/5/2007 10:59:55 AM)

Unc Harry, how's your head?  hope u r off the floor, doing your job. 
beer n mater juice, yep
kaligosht if hangover is really bad, must be HOT, lots ginger n peppers.  NOT "peckers" calm, mind out of gutter dude.
smiles
big mouth in us




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (8/6/2007 9:50:39 PM)

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kaligosht if hangover is really bad, must be HOT, lots ginger n peppers.  NOT "peckers" calm, mind out of gutter dude.


YS. What is kaligosht? [8|]




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (8/6/2007 10:00:25 PM)

Poll Tests Iraqi Support of Oil Privatization
Methodology Questionable, Though Results Appear Reasonable
 
"Iraqis oppose plans to open the country’s oilfields to foreign investment by a factor of two to one," according to a newly-released opinion poll sponsored by a consortium of American and British NGOs who, by-and-large, themselves oppose privatization of Iraq's natural resources. This is not to say that their efforts to gauge the sentiment of the Iraqi public is invalid, or that they have deliberately skewed results to proffer a conclusion in line with their own agenda. In fact, the key result of the study--that 32% of respondents "strongly" and 31% "moderately" prefer that Iraqi companies rather than foreign firms take the lead in developing Iraq's oil sector--sounds about right. However, an examination of the methodology of their polling draws into question what kind of reliable statistical inference can be drawn from their collected data.

In a country with more than four million displaced citizens and a security crisis as severe as Iraq, producing an opinion poll with the usual standards of accuracy would be nearly--if not entirely--impossible. The Turkish polling form, KA Research, conducted 2200 face-to-face interviews with Iraqis across all eighteen provinces--a commendable effort undertaken at great risk. However, the poll summary analysis, produced by David Dougherty of Custom Strategic Research, does not mention any confidence level or margin of error. Oil Change International's info page states the poll has a 2.3 margin of error, but does not say to what degree of confidence that can be assumed. Also, nothing in the supplied materials indicates how the sample was selected, except that the proportionality of each province or governate reflected the national population distribution.

The inclusion of a detailed description of methodology is standard for opinion polling reports, and the absence of this information leads IraqSlogger to profess hesitancy in calling these results scientifically sound. A +/-2.3 margin of error would be remarkable for even a tightly-controlled poll relying on a randomly-selected sample, so to achieve that kind of accuracy with field research in the chaos of Iraq seems a little too extraordinary. David Dougherty is on vacation this week and unavailable to answer questions on the report's methodology. KA Research has not replied to an e-mail inquiry, possibly because it arrived near to the end of the business day in Turkey. A representative of one of the NGOs who sponsored the poll was unable to confirm how the sample was collected, though told Slogger he was "sure" it was random because during previous projects the Turkish research firm lost at least three pollsters who knocked on unfriendly doors. This, however, is not a sufficient confirmation to change IraqSlogger's opinion on the poll.

This piece highlights the importance of methodology in opinion polling in hopes that future attempts to gauge the Iraqi public's sentiment will work to maintain tighter controls either on their collection of data, or on their reporting of the way that data was collected. Despite IraqSlogger's criticism about the reliability of the specific results produced by this poll, we do agree with the overall conclusion that "Any law that appears to favor foreign companies at the expense of indigenous firms is likely to meet with significant resistance on the Iraqi street."




YellowSunshine -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (8/9/2007 12:00:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lion of Babylon

quote:


kaligosht if hangover is really bad, must be HOT, lots ginger n peppers.  NOT "peckers" calm, mind out of gutter dude.


YS. What is kaligosht? [8|]


Kaligosht is a dish from Pakistan.  Simple
can adjust ingredients however, a "dump" dish which makes easy, I have even used Turkey for it:

Basic, adjust to whavever you may have on hand and use your own judgement:

*Equal parts meat (goat was common, beef, chicken, turkey)cubed to fresh tomatos (or can use canned if a pinch) a tad bit less tom. than meat
*fresh ginger, I like quite a bit/can add some fresh garlic/onion if wanted, onion best sliced/thin and slightly browned as if curry
*ghee or oil/i usually put in some oil and add fresh butter for flavour
*ex-hubby used to put paprika for colour if tomatos didn't add enough
*chili peppers, jalapenos or other, seeds can be removed if very hot/preference/somex's put some sliced and put in some whole

brown, or cook off most liquid in hot ghee/oil mixture... meat, add tomatos/ginger, let boil/simmer and cook down until almost tender, add peppers (CALM/NOT "peckers", SIGH/tho. some of those I would like to put in the HEAT)
add whatever else mentioned above if desired/whoopsie editing again... then cook down until sauce is thick/meat is tender/ok, i think i have the basics in here

serve with basmati rice/bread/onion salad

Good stuff, my American family's fav.

and good for your heart, digestion, etc...

yep
hope i got it right, close enough, time constraints
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YellowSunshine -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (8/9/2007 12:05:52 PM)

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.
don't forget to salt to taste, add salt after meat browns as meat should be more tender that way
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Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (8/17/2007 9:46:50 PM)

Back on topic.

Kidnapped Iraqi Had Top Oil Role
Wagaa, Four Others, Snatched Tuesday by Men in Official Uniforms, Vehicles
 
WASHINGTON, DC (UPI) -- The Iraqi oil official kidnapped with four others Tuesday was in charge of Iraq’s exploration and production, a key role especially for a Sunni, and a stark reminder that even the most needed aspect of Iraq’s economy -- oil and the wealth it brings in -- is not immune from the horror of today’s Iraq. Abdel-Jabar al-Wagaa, a deputy minister and top assistant to the oil minister, was taken by a group of men in official uniforms and vehicles. There is no confirmation on the assailants, including whether these were from any Iraqi security force or militias dressed up. Militias carried out a similar raid earlier this year at the Iraqi Finance Ministry. Tuesday’s raid occurred in the afternoon, taken from their neighboring apartments in a housing complex of the State Oil Marketing Organization, where the other officials worked.

“This is a very sad story,” former Oil Minister Issam al-Chalabi told UPI. He said he knew Wagaa, that the 62-year-old has a wife and other family. “He’s been working in the ministry for quite some time now, over 30 years.”

Chalabi said it is another in a series of blows to the ministry’s expertise. “There’s a continuous drain,” he said. Wagaa, named deputy minister in 2004, may be a target because of his position, because he’s a Sunni and not a Shiite Arab, or because of the tribe he hailed from, the Jibouri tribe from Mosul.

“Nobody can tell but it could be a combination of all these reasons,” Chalabi said.
“This is really bad,” a U.S. official familiar with Iraq oil issues told UPI on condition of anonymity. “This is a blow to the Oil Ministry. He was one of the few remaining Western-educated technocrats.”

As a Sunni, Wagaa was in the minority in the new Shiite-dominated government in Iraq. Shiites make up the majority population in the country but were deprived of respective leadership roles under Saddam Hussein, a Sunni. Sunnis have been routed out and excluded from the government, despite their expertise in technical issues, especially oil. The ranks in the ministry have been thinned of Sunnis and other technocrats, instead replaced by the connected and politicians. Wagaa’s position in the ministry was of heavy importance. The senior deputy minister in charge of upstream, all production, exploration, drilling and the North and South Oil Cos. were under his watch. He also had a role in the ongoing training sessions of oil officials and workers with international oil companies.

Iraq has 115 billion barrels of proven oil reserves -- much of which are not being pumped -- and experts believe nearly as much to be discovered. At least three of the four others kidnapped held high-level roles in the Iraqi company that sells the crude, the SOMO. Iraq sent an average 1.6 million barrels per day of oil to international market last year, bringing in more than $31 billion, which filled more than 90 percent of the federal budget. Mahdi al-Naqib was in charge of researching what type of crude was available and who it should be sold to; Salah Abdul Qadar was the director general for selling oil to Europe; and Kamel al-Ob’eidy was a top-level SOMO public relations official. UPI could not determine the identity of the fourth abductee.

No one has officially taken responsibility for the act. Media accounts and officials are hinting at blaming the Mahdi Army, or rogue factions of it, which are led by Shiite cleric Moqtada Sadr. The incident took place near Sadr City, a poor Baghdad neighborhood of millions. But it could be a cross sect hit, by Sunnis, or any number of actors in the violent power struggle unfolding in Iraq and other parts of the country. Details remain sketchy still. The uniforms may be police or Interior Ministry forces, both of which are infiltrated by loyalists to Shiite militias of the Badr Corps, the armed wing of the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council, one of the most powerful political parties in Baghdad and partner to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s Dawa Party. Considering the high profile of those captured, it likely was not a random snatch.

The perpetrators could have been allowed into the compound because they appeared to be official, or bribed their way in.
Less than three months ago armed men in police uniforms took five Britons from a Finance Ministry building, which is near the SOMO compound. They’re still missing, as are many taken in a mass kidnapping Nov. 14, when the Mahdi Army was blamed for donning Interior Ministry garb and invading the Ministry of Higher Education. Wagaa’s kidnapping is the highest-profile job since last year, when in two separate instances the directors general of both the North Oil Co. and State Oil Projects Co. were kidnapped. Neither has been found.




sadiq2006 -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (8/18/2007 1:40:32 PM)

lion of babylon
 
you said :(OK dudes, so we cant produce enough oil to satisfy demand. Doesn't Baghdad sit on a BIG RIVER????? How come we cant produce enough fresh water to satisfy Western Baghdad?) right, but if you dig under the ground you will find more of it. [8|][8|][8|] 




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (8/25/2007 9:58:34 PM)

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you said :(OK dudes, so we cant produce enough oil to satisfy demand. Doesn't Baghdad sit on a BIG RIVER????? How come we cant produce enough fresh water to satisfy Western Baghdad?) right, but if you dig under the ground you will find more of it.


Sure. If you dig anywhere between 4m-8m you will have a working well. However what about those who live in appartments or don't have private gardens? In the build up to the war many dug wells in preparation for the coalition bombings targeting the water supply. Its now over 4 years later and they still can't supply Baghdad with fresh drinking water. Thats the point!




sadiq2006 -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (8/27/2007 8:15:34 PM)

lion of babylon
 
do not forget that furat and dijla rivers are (the rivers of paradise (heaven)) blessed by allah the mighty god to mesopotamia (iraq), so they can find more water under under under the ground more because it is fresh.




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Where has all our oil gone? (8/30/2007 4:05:07 AM)

Erm, OK, thanks for the info but I would rather you posted something relevant just for a change. [sm=smiley24.gif]




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