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Lion of Babylon -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (7/4/2007 10:30:07 PM)

Report about the assasination.

killers of Fr. Ragheed and the three deacons wanted their conversion to Islam
June 11, 07

New details emerge surrounding the assassination of the Chaldean priest and his three friends in Mosul. Sunni Islam’s highest authority in Iraq condemns the attacks against the Christians and lays “all blame at the door of the Government and occupying forces”. The Iraqi Ambassador to the Holy See on the Nineveh Plain project “we work to build greater unity, not barriers”.

Mosul (AsiaNews) – Before opening fire on Fr. Raghhed Gani and his three deacons, the killers demanded their conversion to Islam. These emerging details of the murder of the 4 Chaldeans have been posted by the Arab site Ankawa.com which in these last few days has been re-creating the ferocious nature of the Mosul attack through eye-witness accounts.

This information confirms the theory of a target murder, well planned and in step with the vast campaign of persecution against Christians currently underway in Iraq. So far there has been no claim of responsibility for the “senseless gesture”, as it was defined by Benedict XVI who today is due to meet president George W. Bush in the Vatican.

In the interim a press statement released by Iraq’s highest authority for Sunni Islam, the Association of Muslim Scholars in Iraq (AMSI) has condemned the murder of the Chaldean priest and his three sub-deacons, which took place June 3rd last following Sunday mass. The declaration attributes all blame for the deaths to the “occupation forces” and the “current Iraqi government”. The Sunni academics also denounce the fact that “what is happening on the ground in Iraq is pure terror, killing and destruction, due to a total deterioration in security”.

While tensions rise, some politicised Christian groups in the United States are pushing for the creation of an autonomous region for the “Assyrians in Iraq”, which they see as the only solution for their survival. In the past local bishops on the ground have expressed their strong opposition to this “dangerous” project.

The Iraqi Ambassador to the Holy See, Assyrian Albert Yelda, agrees with the bishops. The diplomat described the Mosul killings as a “shameful crime, a tragic event for all Iraq”. “The government – he continued – condemns attacks, repression, and persecution against any minority”.

In an interview with AsiaNews he underlines that now, the priority is to “regain stability, guarantee security for the entire population and keep the country united, not create barriers”. “Now is not the time to speak of safe haven for Christians, an idea which I do not support at all” he underlined. “Christians must remain in their homeland and the government is doing all it can to guarantee their security not only in Baghdad, but also in those areas where terrorism has so far not taken over”.

Only “by remaining united, Christians, Muslims, Turkmen, Kurds and Yezidi will web e able to uproot this evil from Iraq and the entire region”. Ambassador Yelda underscored that “the issue of terrorism is a global problem; this is why the international community must provide the Iraqi government with the necessary means to quash this ideology of evil which they are attempting to impose on us”.

“External elements – he added – are trying their very best to divide the government and the people; this is why the world cannot, must not abandon us. The International Community must remain by our side, because if there is no peace in Iraq, then there cannot be peace in the rest of the region”.
http://www.christiansofiraq.com/dema...rtjune117.html




zimzim -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (7/7/2007 1:22:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lion of Babylon

Before opening fire on Fr. Raghhed Gani and his three deacons, the killers demanded their conversion to Islam.


Why, why, why? nobody can force someone to be in a religion. It is something they are born with. Can u imagine what would happen if christian ppl force Mullas to become christians? this is more than crazy. It is madnes. [:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@][:@]




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (7/11/2007 7:12:22 AM)

The people who issued this threat, what are they, who are they? Common criminals who kidnap people. They have the balls to accuse priest a spy while it was them who committed the crime in the first place. Have any of these kidnapings gotten them anywhere? No! 90 percent are for money.

Vicar flees Baghdad after threats BBC NEWS

A vicar who has been working to secure the release of five British hostages in Iraq has fled the country after being denounced as a spy.

Canon Andrew White, who ran Iraq's only Anglican church, left Baghdad amid fears for his safety. The five Britons' abductors reportedly threatened to kill them unless the vicar stopped trying to find them. The captives, four security guards and a consultant, were abducted on 29 May, from the finance ministry in Baghdad. They were seized by insurgents disguised as Iraqi police.
 
'Serious threat'
Canon White left Baghdad after pamphlets dropped in Shia areas of the Iraqi capital reportedly branded the vicar as "no more than a spy". An unconfirmed report in London-based newspaper al-Quds al-Arabi said the leaflets accused Mr White of trying to broker deals against the kidnappers. The vicar, who was based at St George's Church in Baghdad, arrived back in Britain on Wednesday morning.

The Foundation for Relief and Reconciliation in the Middle East, of which Mr White is executive director, confirmed he had left Iraq because of a "serious security threat".

In Baghdad, the British Embassy confirmed that the vicar, who was previously based at Coventry Cathedral, had been working on the release of the five British hostages. Mohammed Shokat, head of the political section at the British Embassy, confirmed Mr White's departure, saying: "He has left Iraq because of a security threat."




azinorum -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (7/12/2007 2:49:12 AM)

Well kidnapping in Baghdad is big business so this doesnt surprise me. As far as forcing people to wear veil, this is simply archaic and further proof that its now the Militias who run Baghdad and not our so called government who are being held hostage in the Green Zone. Another report concerning the title of this thread.

BAGHDAD, Nissrin Muhammad, 19, an economics student, says she is desperate and does not know what to do with her two-month-old brother, Abdul-Aziz, after her mother was killed a few weeks ago for not wearing a veil.

Being the oldest daughter and with a handicapped father (he lost an arm years ago in an industrial accident), Nissrin was forced to leave college to look after her youngest brother and their home.

She depends on her other two younger brothers, aged 14 and 16, to work and bring food to the family. One works as a cleaner and the other sells things in the streets.

“My mother was killed leaving my infant brother without milk. I really don’t know what to do as he won’t take powdered milk and we cannot move around our neighbourhood to look for a woman who could breast-feed him.

“I stay awake all night crying because I lost my mother for such an idiotic thing.

“One day she went out to buy some stuff for him and she left him with me at home. She went out as she always used to and extremists just shot her dead in the middle of the street. According to witnesses, they were shouting that this would be the fate of all women that don’t wear a veil.

“It was a shock to my whole family. No one expected that this lovely woman would one day die for such a foolish thing, that she would lose such a beautiful life because of a piece of cloth.

“Since my mother was killed on 18 June, my father left his job as a cook in a restaurant. He just stays at home crying for my mother and drinking alcohol, things he never did before.

“The extremists have destroyed our life. My brothers and I had to stop studying, my father quit work and Abdul-Aziz is suffering from malnutrition because he won’t take powdered milk.

“I hope I can find a woman who can breast feed my brother and keep him alive. I would give him to someone to stop him dying.”

http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php...t_Wearing_Veil




zimzim -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (7/14/2007 2:52:13 AM)

So sad. What can they do? These groups who do this dont belong in Iraq or any other country. They belong in a zoo. [:@]




FlyByBaghdad -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (7/14/2007 5:31:35 AM)

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Pope Benedict Concerned for Iraqi Christian
Lion of Babylon, I could understand your concern due to the obvious reasons ((bas la itseer methel ily da yeka7leha gam 3emahaa))- Pope Benedict Concerned for Iraqi Christian, as a Muslim, why should I have a gram of respect for somebody who was a Hitler youth member , who fought with the Nazi’s till the last day of the war, who takes pride in insulting Muslims and their believes. Also I can not forget the blessing that he gave to invade Iraq……OK,  Post 9/11 the reaction towards Muslims was hmmmmm  appalling, and Muslims were made to feel guilty for things that they as a community had nothing to do with, thousands have been harassed and discriminated against, put under years of intrusive surveillance just for being Muslims, whenever you want to make a comment you have to see the wider issues, as an observer your comments will send a false massage to the normal reader, Christians in Iraq are still respected and welcomed by all sections of the society, we can not blame the majority for the acts of bad few!!! Right!! . (((Say the truth even if the truth was against you))) I think what has been done in the name of religion in ((the both sides of arguments- I hope U understand what I mean by that)) is appalling and the divide which has been made between people will require centuries to heal. Let’s wish for the best and let’s be the true voices for reconciliation and harmony not conflict. ReGaRdS         




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (7/14/2007 10:35:55 PM)

Dude, I posted without comment and what the pope has to say has relevance for the Iraqi Christians. [8|] But thanks for the info. I didn't have a clue about the papas past and looked it up.




zimzim -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (7/17/2007 3:01:22 AM)

Hi everyone. What happened to Muslims after 9/11 was very bad. but we are speaking about Iraqis doing terrible things to other Iraqis. 9/11 was the US against Muslims. The truth is there are good Iraqi Muslims who care about their christian nighbours and brothers but there are too many bad islamist iraqis who dont want us anymore. This is fact. So we dont feel like we are welcomed by all sections of our society anymore. By the time there is a chance for reconsciliation there will be no christians left because it will be too late. [sm=smiley19.gif][sm=smiley19.gif][sm=smiley19.gif][sm=smiley19.gif]




FlyByBaghdad -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (7/17/2007 6:30:22 AM)

Dear ZimZim, Maybe you could immigrate to America[:)][:D][:)][:D] 




zimzim -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (7/18/2007 1:19:36 AM)

I already applied to Canada. But waiting since 6 years and till now no luck. [:(]




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (8/12/2007 10:50:56 PM)

Mosul's Christians Live in FearAncient Community Dwindling; IWPR Correspondent's Posthumous Report Institute for War and Peace Reporting (IWPR) correspondent Sahar al-Haideri was murdered in Mosul in June 2007. In this article, published posthumously by IWPR, Haideri reports that Mosul's Christian minority are dwindling in numbers as they flee the city in fear of continuing extremist attacks.  
They have been threatened because of their Christian faith, their distinctive clothing and their success in business. They have been killed because of a controversy over a cartoon. They have fled to wherever they can find a minimal amount of safety - to Iraqi Kurdistan, abroad to Syria, or just to the countryside outside their city. The Christians of Mosul can recite one horror story after another. Once a solid, middle-class community in this northern city, thousands of them have fled their homes under threat from militants. Their churches have been bombed, their clergy murdered, and community members regularly face threats and kidnappings.

The story of Mosul's Christians is not dissimilar to that of millions of other Iraqi citizens who live in a state of fear. But their religion makes them especially vulnerable, in a city where governance and the rule of law are non-existent, allowing criminal gangs and Islamic militant groups such as al-Qaeda to intimidate and kill with impunity.
"Life has become difficult in Mosul," said Ilham Sabah, a Christian attorney who wears the veil because she fears she would otherwise be killed. "The militants threaten Christian women. They set them on fire or kill them if they refuse to wear Islamic dress as Muslim women do.
"We only have one choice, and that is to flee Mosul and the hell created by the militants."
Mosul is the capital of Nineveh province, and has been home to Christians of the Assyrian, Chaldean, Armenian and Catholic churches for more than millennium. Now they are being driven out en masse.
Christians "are the weakest of the weak", said Joseph Kassab, originally from Mosul and now executive director of the Chaldean Federation of America.
“The extremists there are highly active... they want to empty Mosul of Iraqi Christians," he said.
There are no accurate demographic statistics for Iraq, but most estimates indicate there were between 800,000 and one million Iraqi Christians in Iraq in 2003. A 2005 report by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, UNHCR, on non-Muslim religious minorities in Iraq said that most of the Christians were from Nineveh province, although substantial numbers lived and worked in Baghdad.
UNHCR reported last year that about 24 per cent of the Iraqi refugees in Syria, which borders Nineveh province, were Christians. In addition, about 1,720 Christian families have fled Mosul for the relative safety of the Nineveh Plains outside the city, according to a Christian human rights advocate in the province who requested anonymity out of concern for his security. Thousands of Christians from Baghdad and other parts of Iraq have also fled to the plains.
Christians, many of whom were successful entrepreneurs and professionals, were some of Iraq's first refugees.
Community leaders in Nineveh province have faced increased threats in the wake of the furore created by a Danish newspaper’s publication last year of caricatures making fun of the Prophet Mohammed and linking Islam with terrorism. A controversial speech by Pope Benedict XVI in September 2006, which many Muslims perceived as anti-Islamic, also made Christians a target.
By mid-October, a bomb had killed nine people in an Assyrian neighbourhood of Mosul, and Syriac priest Paulos Iskandar was beheaded after being kidnapped by a militant group. His abductors demanded at least 250,000 US dollars in ransom and also that he post signs on his church apologising for the Pope's remarks, according to the Assyrian International News Agency. They killed him two days after his abduction.
The murder sent shock-waves through Mosul's Christian community,
The violence has not abated since Iskandar's gruesome murder. Father Ragheed Ganni, a Chaldean Catholic priest at the Church of the Holy Spirit, and three of his deacons were gunned down in Mosul in June following a Sunday service. Ganni had been threatened and his church bombed prior to the attack.
The four were shot dead when their vehicle was pulled over by armed gunmen. The militants then rigged the car with explosives, and it took several hours before a bomb-disposal unit arrived to defuse the charges.
Less high-profile kidnappings, threats and killings of Christians rarely make the news, but they occur almost daily. The Assyria National Assembly tracks violence against Assyrian Christians in Iraq, and the daily online log of murders and other violent acts includes a plethora of kidnappings targeting Mosul’s Christians.

Many Christians are kidnapped for ransom because they are successful businessmen, although most have fled or shut down their operations in Mosul since 2003.
In one case last month, the assembly reported that Dawood Qoryaqos Hermis Farfash, a father of five, was carjacked and abducted in Mosul's al-Tahreer district. Earlier this year, Dawood was kidnapped in the same area and released after his family paid a ransom of 3.5 million Iraqi dinars, or about 2,800 dollars.
The frequent attacks on churches and clergy have kept many away from services. Mosul used to have 23 churches, but many are no longer open and Christians often opt to practice their faith in secret, according to the human rights advocate.
"Life was better under Saddam," said a 35-year-old Christian businessman in Mosul who asked not to be named because he feared retaliation by militant groups. "I used to go out socially and was well-respected, but not any more. In the past, there was law and order, but now nothing stops the extremists or criminals."
This man, a lifelong Mosul resident, lives in a neighbourhood where Christians are in a minority, and says most of his friends are Muslims. His brother left Mosul after his child was kidnapped and he himself was threatened earlier this year.
Mosul's long history of religious and ethnic coexistence has not, however, disappeared because of the violence.
"I and many of my friends and colleagues hurt just as much when a Christian is murdered as when a Muslim is killed," said Salim Abdul-Wahad, a Muslim teacher in Mosul.
Kassab and the Christian rights advocate both said the security problems stem from a lack of government control over the province as a whole and Mosul in particular. Kassab said the province is so chaotic that it is often unclear who is attacking whom, or why. Christians may be specifically targeted by Islamic extremists, he said, but the perpetrators could also be criminal gangs or militias affiliated with political parties.
"Everyone is subject to violence," said Kassab. " can't function, they can't provide safety and security very well in general. So how are they going to safeguard a minority in the community?"
He said the security forces were "busy protecting themselves, protecting their establishments. It's hard to protect everyone in that area, and they don't have the resources, either".
Michael Youash, project director for the Washington-based Iraq Sustainable Democracy Project, which advocates on behalf of Iraqi religious minorities, says the United States has not done enough to defend minority rights in Iraq even though many of the smaller religious groups supported the US-led overthrow of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.
"America has shown with abundant clarity that it’s not willing to lift a finger on this issue," he said.
Christians from Mosul and other parts of Iraq such as Baghdad have fled in droves to the Nineveh Plains, which many Assyrians consider their homeland. There are other minority groups - Turkoman, Yazidis and Shabaks - living in this area, which consists of the Tel Kaif, al-Hamdaniya and al-Shikhan districts to the southeast, east and north of Mosul. The area borders on the Dohuk and Erbil provinces of Iraqi Kurdistan.
"The Nineveh Plain is a bit of an oasis in terms of safety, and the main reason is because the communities really do know each other," said Youash. "Even with the new arrivals, they tend to know each other."
The number of internally displaced persons, or IDPs, seeking refuge in the Nineveh Plains rose to more than 10,000 families five months ago, including 1,000 from the Shabak community. Nineveh province has nearly 90,000 IDPs, the second-largest for any province in the country, according to a July report by the International Organisation for Migration.
The largely agrarian plains have remained fairly safe for Christians and other minorities. They are partially controlled by the Kurdistan Regional Government and the Kurdistan Democratic Party, KDP, which is dominant in Erbil and Dohuk.
Assyrians claim the Kurdish government and the KDP have discriminated against them, including confiscating land and disenfranchising Christian voters in the 2005 elections. The Kurdish government would like to incorporate much of the Nineveh Plain into its area of rule, but many residents want to create a special administrative area of their own there.
"There isn't necessarily a special solution for Christians, because any solution needs to address all political, security and economic concerns through Iraq," said the human rights activist. "But Christians want their own autonomous region with the Shabak and the Yazidis in the Nineveh Plains."
Youash agreed, saying,"This is what's needed to save these people."
Advocates for a special territory run by minorities on the Nineveh Plains cite the Iraqi constitution, which guarantees administrative rights for minorities such as Turkoman, Chaldeans and Assyrians.
If momentum gains for a minority-run area in Nineveh, it will probably be fiercely opposed by the Kurds and perhaps other political groups.
Still, Youash and other Assyrian advocates are lobbying for US support for the plan and more support for the plains region. The over 82,000 Assyrians living in the US have formed a formidable lobby.
The US Senate is currently considering a bill that would give 10 million dollars in aid to help religious minorities in the Nineveh Plains. It has already passed in the House of Representatives.
Unless they have security backed up by strong governance, the Christians of Nineveh fear they will disappear altogether.
"Most of us have fled abroad, and this is a serious concern," said Mosul resident Afram Abdul-Ahad, who lost his small restaurant and some family members because of targeted violence against Christians. "We're worried about the future of Christians in Iraq."
Middle East editor Tiare Rath and an IWPR Iraq correspondent contributed additional material to this report.




YellowSunshine -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (8/13/2007 9:59:29 AM)

"Let’s wish for the best and let’s be the true voices for reconciliation and harmony not conflict. ReGaRdS "       LoB above

YEP.

some muslims live in fear here and christians over yonder.

some christians live in fear here and muslims over yonder.

YEP.




YellowSunshine -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (8/13/2007 11:14:23 AM)

If God is for us than whom can be against us!
No FEAR.

Watched an interesting movie early this am, "Good Night and Good Luck"

no x to elaborate, can google this.

God Bless




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (8/15/2007 9:27:42 AM)

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some muslims live in fear here and christians over yonder.

some christians live in fear here and muslims over yonder.



And never the twain shall meet. Or so it seems! [X(]




sadiq2006 -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (8/15/2007 9:43:28 AM)

this is what america nad israel want to do this the world to make confusion and teach wrong way so they can control the world in the they like it.




YellowSunshine -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (8/15/2007 9:49:03 AM)

Control and Money.
GARBAGE
The Lover's of Money.
GARBAGE




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (8/15/2007 10:02:47 AM)

Dudes, they already rule the world but what comes around goes around. Nobody stays in power forever, nobody!! [>:]




sadiq2006 -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (8/16/2007 8:21:29 AM)

this is how the life is going from the greedy human beings and that is how the kurds and america and israel are doing and iran to destroy iraq and steal it's oil.

and the arabs won't let iraq to be better than them.




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (8/19/2007 5:45:37 AM)

The Arabs dont know what they want. They've always had this dilemma and will never change. Time for all Iraqis to establish their own identity and forget about the bloody Arab states.




sadiq2006 -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (8/19/2007 11:07:53 AM)

lion of babylon
 
you are right 100% maaaaaaaaaaan i solot you you know something lion of babylon you are so smart. [sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=smiley20.gif][sm=smiley20.gif]
 
but first the kurds must be kicked out from mesopotamia (iraq) forever.




Lion of Babylon -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (8/19/2007 10:26:06 PM)

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but first the kurds must be kicked out from mesopotamia (iraq) forever.


Now how did I know you were going to say that! [:D]




Iraqi100Percent -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (8/19/2007 11:48:23 PM)

I was reading the begining of this thread and Zaineb's reply is what prompted me to write on this subject. Unfortunitly our sister Zaineb wrote something and left the topic for us to debate.

Zaineb the thread was referring to Iraqi christians, not christians in general. It's the same way when you refer to Islam post 9-11 vs. Bin Ladin's al Qaeda and his wahabi sect.

Iraqi christians are peacful members of the iraqi society just like the rest of the iraqi minorities in iraq from yazidis, subba, turkman, sabia and whathave you. They are being targeted by extreme ideas from both sides of the secterian war in iraq both from shia and sunna.

America didn't come uninvited to iraq. Unfortunitly it's the iraqi opposition prior to saddam that invited the americans to iraq and gave the americans every lie and execuse and facilitated the process for the american adminstration to convince the american people of the war and link it to 9-11.

i still remember when ahmad chalabi and his INC was running the show and telling the lies about the ties of a secular government in iraq with al-qaeda, a claim that americans themselves said was not true.

those so called iraqis who have been living outside of iraq most of their lives with dual citizenships are the ones who facilitated this war and they are the ones sitting inside the green zone and outside of iraq with their pockets filled with millions. Do you want to go through the names of the top crooks in this so called iraqi opposition?

the majority of the iraqi opposition was made up of Shia and kurds. I said the majority because there were others as well but the influential people were shia and kurds.

that being said, don't put the responsibility on the iraqi christians, they are a victim from all sides of the equation, just like the rest of the minorities in iraq that are not shia/sunna.

go blame the shia and kurds then the americans and the rest of the world. The people in charge of Iraq right now, officially, is the shia dominated government of nuri al maliki. Before him it was ibrahim al jaffari.

i hope they put their real names instead of the new names they took after they came to iraq on american tanks





tigris81 -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (8/20/2007 7:30:03 AM)

 
This is very sad and its unbelievable that Iraq has reached this level of inhumanity. I find it very hard to beleive that Iraqis are doing this to other Iraqis and particularly to holy men such as priests.
This is the work of Al Qaida, and Mehdi Army, who do not know the feeling of multi-ethnicity and multi-religious societies like Iraq.
Despite these tragic crimes, I am still against the idea of an Assyrian Autonomous region. That should be no excuse. The sunnis and Shia are being slaughtered too but there has been no calls for the creation of any states or regions on their side, only the southern autonomous region proposed in the south under Iran's influence. Any autonomous region is a threat to Iraq's integrity. It is already bad enough that the Kurds have one, next thing the Assyrians, Chaldaens, Yazidis, Turkmens, will call for one and Iraq will end up like the former USSR... breaking up into many mini-states. No way that Iraqis will allow that! All that is needed is patience. 




YellowSunshine -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (8/20/2007 6:19:11 PM)

Lion of Babylon
The people who issued this threat, what are they, who are they? Common criminals who kidnap people. They have the balls to accuse priest a spy while it was them who committed the crime in the first place. Have any of these kidnapings gotten them anywhere? No! 90 percent are for money.

WHO ARE THEY, never wanted to know whom "they are" who are "they" anyway... 

Money, Control, Power, Hell




sadiq2006 -> RE: Mehdi Army force Christians to wear the veil (8/20/2007 6:34:56 PM)

this is what they want so they can steal the oil and the gas very easy and divide iraq like before 80 years ago at the time of sikis biko agreement (that devil (satan) day).




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