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Who was Iraq's best Leader?


Nuri al-Said
  37% (3)
Abdul Karim Qassim
  37% (3)
Abd Salam Arif
  12% (1)
Ahmad Hassan Al Bakir
  0% (0)
Saddam Hussain
  0% (0)
Ayad Alawi
  12% (1)
Ibrahim Al Jafari
  0% (0)
Nuri Al Maliki
  0% (0)


Total Votes : 8
(last vote on : 9/4/2007 7:11:44 AM)
(Poll will run till: -- )


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Calm -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (8/28/2007 1:03:14 AM)

And you have so much brain you are going to do it for us. If we show a donkey the root where to go from A to B the donkey after a couple of times will know the way.  With you, that task is impossible.



saifali -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (8/28/2007 4:58:19 PM)

علاوي يتعاقد مع شركة (جي بي آر ) الأمريكية للعلاقات العامة لتلميع صورته الكالحة مقابل 150 ألف دولار
 كشف تقرير لشبكة CNN الأميركية عن تعاقد رئيس الوزراء العراقي الأسبق إياد علاوي مع شركة علاقات عامة أميركية، من أجل تقويض حكومة نوري المالكي وممارسة ضغوط على صناع القرار في واشنطن، وتنظيم حملة إعلامية لإعادته إلى السلطة في العراق.وأشار التقرير إلى أن الاتفاق المبرم في الـ20 من الشهر الجاري بين علاوي وشركة باربور غريفث آند روجرس BGR للعلاقات العامة المقربة من البيت الأبيض ينص على أن تقوم الشركة بحملة واسعة لتقويض حكومة المالكي والترويج لإياد علاوي، وفقا لما نقله التقرير.
وكشف التقرير عن صورة من الرسالة التي وجهتها شركة BGR إلى إياد علاوي، وأشارت فيها إلى أن الأجور المترتبة على رئيس حركة الوفاق الوطني ستكون: رسوم ثابتة بقيمة 150 ألف دولار تدفع كل ثلاثة أشهر بدءا من الأول من آب الجاري، علاوة على التكاليف الشهرية الخاصة بالحملة.وحسب وثيقة رسمية صادرة عن وزارة العدل الأميركية، فإن طبيعة الخدمات التي ستقدمها الشركة مقابل هذه المبالغ هي: "تقديم استشارات استراتيجية لصناع القرار الأميركيين بشأن قضايا تخص العراق، وترتيب اجتماعات بين عميلها والمسؤولين الأميركيين، وتمثيل إياد علاوي في المحافل الحكومية والكونغرس ووسائل الإعلام".

وتقول الوثيقة إن كافة إمكانات الشركة ستكون متاحة لعلاوي و"زملائه المعتدلين" وستخصص الشركة فريقا من المحترفين الذي سيلقى على عاتقهم تنفيذ المشروع الخاص بعلاوي.

وذكر تقرير CNN أن رسالة إلكترونية، حصل على نسخة منها، بعثتها شركة BGR عبر البريد الإلكتروني الثلاثاء الماضي إلى العاملين في الكونغرس، تضمنت دعما وإشادة بإياد علاوي ووصفته بالخليفة المحتمل للمالكي.

وقال مراسل CNN لدى البيت الأبيض إد هنري إن إسم مُرسِل هذه الرسالة هو "الدكتور إياد علاوي"، وقد تصدرها عنوان: "قائد جديد في العراق".

وأشار التقرير إلى أن هذه الرسالة الإلكترونية جاءت في اليوم نفسه الذي طالب فيه عضوا مجلس الشيوخ الأميركي كارل ليفين وجون وورنر البرلمان العراقي بتغيير المالكي، وفي نفس اليوم الذي أعرب فيه الرئيس بوش عن خيبة أمله بالمالكي، ليعود بعد يوم واحد ليجدد دعمه لرئيس الوزراء العراقي.

وتحدث المراسل مع نائب رئيس شركة BGR الذي أقر أن شركته تعمل على بعث رسائل "سلبية" عن المالكي. وتوقع المراسل أن تكشف وزارة العدل الأميركية عن المزيد من التفاصيل حول الموضوع، وقال "إن السؤال الكبير هو بالطبع: من أين يأتي علاوي بالمبالغ الضخمة التي يدفعها لشركات اللوبي؟"

وذكّـر التقرير بالمقال الذي نشرته واشنطن بوست قبل أيام لإياد علاوي الذي دعا فيه الإدارة الأميركية إلى استبدال المالكي، "لأنه لا يقوى على إدارة البلاد"، عارضا مشروعه لإنقاذ العراق، حسب رؤيته.

ونقل التقرير عن المتحدث باسم البيت الأبيض غوردن جوندرو تأكيده للصفقة، قائلا: "نعم، لقد تعاقد السيد علاوي مع هذه الشركة، لكن إدارة الرئيس بوش تساند نوري المالكي رئيس الوزراء العراقي المنتخب وتدعم مجلس الرئاسة، وسنستمر بالعمل معهم لدفع الأمور إلى الأمام في العراق".

وقد سُئل جوندرو عن السبب الذي يدفع بشركة مقربة من البيت الأبيض إلى ممارسة أنشطة تتناقض وسياسة بوش، فأجاب قائلا: "ربما لأنهم يجنون أمولا طائلة".

وأشارت شبكة CNN في تقريرها إلى أن شركة BGR تضم اثنين من المسؤولين السابقين في إدارة الرئيس بوش، وهما السفير روبرت بلاكويل النائب السابق لمستشار الأمن القومي الأميركي وقد عيّن مبعوثا للرئيس بوش إلى العراق وأسهم في تشكيل الحكومة العراقية المؤقتة التي ترأسها إياد علاوي في سنة 2004، وفيليب زيليكوو المستشار السابق لوزيرة الخارجية كوندوليسا رايس.

يذكر أن حكومات دول عديدة تتعامل مع الشركة، منها قطر وحكومة إقليم كردستان، والصين، والهند وصربيا.




sadiq2006 -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (8/29/2007 10:22:26 AM)

saifali
 
thank you for showing the true ugly face of eyad allawi.[sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif][sm=smiley32.gif]
 
i told these iraqi politicians are the children of saddam hussain and his puppets, what was he doing at the time of saddam hussain in 30 years ago simple that eyad allawi answer (nothing) just collecting money like the other crazy iraqi leaders.

thank you (saifali) my dear friend for showing the turth of him and god bless you my dear. [:D][:D][:D]  



Calm -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (8/29/2007 4:09:19 PM)

I can't see what is wrong with what he is doing.  He is getting support from everywhere, simply because no other leader is bothered to lead the country into peace again. 

He is well educated, he speaks good english, and he look directly in someone's eyes when he replies to any questions thrown at him.  To me he is most honest leader we have.




sadiq2006 -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (8/29/2007 6:57:04 PM)

Mr. calm
 
my dear at the time of saddam hussain anyone who was working with him he was not educated just they collected from the streets and their are many excamples. 



Calm -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (8/30/2007 12:06:36 AM)

How did you work this one out? You ignorant kurdish ungrateful saddy.
I could give you his history from day one, what have you got????????????????

You can't speak english, you don't understand any language, in fact you are a waste of space.  Your posts are meaningless, built on fantacy and not reality.  You have no idea about Iraq and the Iraqi people, you are not related to us in any form or shape, so please put a big shoe shoe in your mouth, and another in your back side and shut up. 




Harry -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (8/30/2007 8:54:03 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sadiq2006

Mr. calm
 
my dear at the time of saddam hussain anyone who was working with him he was not educated just they collected from the streets and their are many excamples. 


[sm=smiley25.gif] the [sm=smiley35.gif] are you saying?[8|][8|][8|][8|][8|]



sadiq2006 -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (8/30/2007 11:40:07 AM)

i meant the people who are working with saddam hussain in the government in the past you will find that all of them are not educated, because they were chosen by saddam hussain himself. 



sadiq2006 -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (8/30/2007 11:41:10 AM)

what i think that abdul karim qassim was the best.  



sadiq2006 -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (8/30/2007 11:48:48 AM)

Mr. calm

you are a bad person, you cannot chat in a civilized way and also you think that you are the smartest in this furom www.iraq4u.com no i do not think so and also i do not think that you mnay about iraq or the iraqi people, and you are saying bad words if you do not except the fact and the truth then this is your problem.

you are not better than anyone in www.iraq4u.com forum and you are not the smartest. 



Calm -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (8/30/2007 3:19:31 PM)

Kaka sadiq

I am a very bad person indeed, and I not as intelligent as iraqis are, and maybe i am the worse person on this site.  But I speak my mind, i speak the truth as i see it.  And you disowned your religion, disowned you origin, disowned your people, and you like to interfer in businesses and the life of others because you are bored with yourself.  Do me a favour, take all your clothes off, and stand infront of mirror, and have a good laugh at the fatherless reflection.

Dohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Sadiq you are one weird individual.



sadiq2006 -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (8/31/2007 7:51:34 AM)

Mr. calm

i also speak the truth and see what the iraqis are getting through and suffuring i feel sorry for the iraqis and i like them the iraiqs, but i see the fact eyad alawi cannot do anything this going to be a strong job and responsibility if he cannot do anything about iraq then they will kick him out like the others get that through your head.

and also i feel sorry for the iraqis because the people around world are bad and discusting and selfish and like wars and they want to harm the iraqis so do not say bad words because you will sorry in the end.

if i respect your thoughts and believes, you should respect my thoughts and my believes because i am telling the truth as a muslim.   



Lion of Babylon -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (8/31/2007 9:58:05 PM)

quote:


if i respect your thoughts and believes, you should respect my thoughts and my believes because i am telling the truth as a muslim.


Sadiq dude, telling the truth is not exclusive trait attributed to Muslims only! I do wish you wouldn't use such statements to strengthen your case. [8|]



sadiq2006 -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (9/3/2007 6:38:24 PM)

lion of babylon

believe me and trust me i am using it to make my statements to strengthen my case, i am telling the truth but that guy Mr. calm he thinks the smartest and he knows everything, well he is wrong and mistaken.
 
believe me on that one lion of babylon.  



Calm -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (9/4/2007 6:04:03 PM)

Who the hell you think you are to call any Iraqi of being mindless, and who do you think you are to stand firm against any Iraqi, and more insulting is that you want to change the Iraqis to suit your idiotic way of thinking.

You may give an opinion, if you ever had a positive one, but you have no right to force one on us.  We Iraqis may fight one another, may destroy one another and our country, but we don't want some American christian who became a muslim, originally was a Kurd to tell us what to do.  And I am belittling myself by answering you, but its time for you to butt out, and shut it.



sadiq2006 -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (9/5/2007 12:42:02 PM)

Mr. calm you are an idiot and naive person

i am not against the iraqi people, i am against the iraqi governments get that throw your thick skull and head and like i said put a sock in it.

Dohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 



Calm -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (9/5/2007 3:36:39 PM)

I think you have driven everyone away from this site.  I used to look forward to reading good discussions and articles, but you have taken over this forum, and keep repeating and repeating the same crap over and over again.  We welcome visitors to this site, but you have overstepped the mark, and insulted all Iraqis, all our leaders, and our good friends the Kurds.  Not all of them are bad.  It is time for Harry & Tigris to do something about you.



sadiq2006 -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (9/5/2007 4:18:17 PM)

Mr. calm

stop winning and lying about me you have no right to lie about me, i know what i am saying and if you like the kurds who are stealing other people's land and history then be my guest and stop making yourself the good guy, everyone has the right to say what is going on your are not the best or the smertest please, so stop being so sentimental as if you are very educated.



Harry -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (9/5/2007 4:45:18 PM)

Sadiq:
 
I suggest that you stop posting, unless you have something constructive to say about a topic; otherwise, put a muzzle on it and stop attacking other members. I am yet to find one post of yours with any constructive point of view. It appears that you are the only one who is truly uneducated, and have no mind of your own; all you do is repeat the fact that you hate everyone. You hate Sunnies, you hate Shi’as, you hate Kurds, you hate Ba’thists, you hate Arabs, you hate Americans, you hate the British, and you hate Iranians, Syrians, Saudis, Jordanians, and Turks. Is there anyone or any nationality that will fit the qualifications of your likings?
 Another suggestion from me is that you go to school and learn to read and write at least one language (I don’t give a horses patoot which) any language. Your English is worse than my eight-year-old kid; you know not even one word of Arabic, despite the fact that your (so called) friend is helping you learning Arabic. That friend of yours is either a three-year-old kid, or he is just benefiting somehow from you. Once you master that one language, then you are welcome to start participating in an intelligent discussion. Therefore if you continue with your repetitive nonsense, I will have no choice but to start deleting your posts, and I can do it faster than you can post them.



SoranJ -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (9/6/2007 7:55:34 AM)

 
ha, this is funny. I am happy that i am not from iraq. where i am from my people are united. is he really kurdish or are you all just saying that because you dont like him?



Harry -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (9/6/2007 8:28:28 AM)

He does not have to be a Kurd, however, since he is posting nothing but nonsense, just like you do, and you are a Kurd, so
Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

(Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh) is a trademark of "Calm enterprises".



Harry -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (9/6/2007 8:31:40 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SoranJ
where i am from my people are united.


United? Just look at what is going on between the two Kurdish [:'(]parties[:'(]; they chewing each others asses?[sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif][sm=smiley36.gif]



sadiq2006 -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (9/6/2007 7:51:34 PM)

soranj
 
from what i know from my resources that your crazy kurds leaders are not leting the iraqis to enter north of iraq only by legal papers, what do you think yourself soranj that you and your crazy people own north of iraq, what do you that north of iraq is kurdistan and only yours, you and yours black history of your people you kurds do not care about anything you think that america and israel will continue helping you, you are wrong we shall see what will happen in 2008 at the time when bush's election will finish in november 2008, and you will see what will happen to you kurds, you will feel sorry for every mistake you made in iraq.      



sadiq2006 -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (9/6/2007 7:52:58 PM)

oh my dear harry,

sometimes i make spelling mistakes because i type too fast, nobody's perfect in this world. [8|]



Harry -> RE: Who was Iraq's best Leader? (9/7/2007 9:13:13 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sadiq2006

soranj
 
from what i know from my resources that your crazy kurds leaders are not leting the iraqis to enter north of iraq only by legal papers, what do you think yourself soranj that you and your crazy people own north of iraq, what do you that north of iraq is kurdistan and only yours, you and yours black history of your people you kurds do not care about anything you think that america and israel will continue helping you, you are wrong we shall see what will happen in 2008 at the time when bush's election will finish in november 2008, and you will see what will happen to you kurds, you will feel sorry for every mistake you made in iraq.      


The prosecution rests its case.



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