I am sure this will not go through. The democrats are playing their "part" well. Sigh, the games continue!!!
By Richard Cowan WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In an unprecedented slap at President George W. Bush's war policy, the U.S. Congress on Thursday approved legislation that links withdrawal of combat troops to paying for the war, ensuring a certain veto. Nonetheless, by a vote of 51-46, the Senate joined the House of Representatives in backing the hotly contested bill that would provide about $100 billion for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan this year while setting a deadline to withdraw U.S. forces over the next 11 months. It was the first time the Congress, controlled by Democrats since January, defied the president in more than four years since the conflict began. Reuters Pictures Editors Choice: Best pictures from the last 24 hours. View Slideshow if(!CMSB_ID){var CMSB_ID=""} CMSB_ID+="042607_MIDART_editorschoice,";document.write(''); Bush has repeatedly warned he will not accept "surrender" dates for the war and there is little doubt he will reject the bill when it is sent to him next week. "The troops had the courage and the strength to win the war, but the president has not had the wisdom to win the peace," said Democratic Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia, who called for a "new direction in Iraq." Democrats, however, are unlikely to see the effort to defy Bush succeed because they do not think they have two-thirds support in Congress to overturn a presidential veto. If there is a veto and it is not overturned, leaders would have to craft a new bill giving money to the troops in Iraq, possibly with some watered-down conditions Bush could accept, and leave the fight over withdrawing troops for future legislation.
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Lets for a moment suppose it did go through and the US withdrew its forces, then what? Would the US be prepared to go through all this again when Iran starts openly plundering Iraq? Leaving Iraq to Iran is totally unacceptable to both democrats and Republicans no matter what they say. The US has backed itself in a corner with no way out. It was a monumental mistake to attack Iraq in the first place and the Iraqi people will pay for it for years to come.
do not forget that iran helped america to invade mesopotamia and afganistan so they are not originally, this is not what muslims brothers would do the muslims must help each other but they will never do it and if america let the persians rule mesopotamia like what the kurds did in the north of mesopotamia killing and keep killing, the persians will do the same thing and mesopotamia will vanished from the face of the earth.
Thank you for opening my eyes, there is much I do not know...as said before when 1st joined this was for communication and think I said that I was working on educating myself (through the assistance of others with more knowledge than self, as I do NOT trust any gov't anymore, or the news media, etc...).... God Bless! TR
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Faith, Hope and Love, the Greatest of these is LOVE!!!
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell
one more thing, i never thought a complete, immediate pull out of troups was a good idea...however, i HATE that this lovely american gov't is just sending more and more troups, longer stays, etc...
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Faith, Hope and Love, the Greatest of these is LOVE!!!
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oh, again, here is miss big mouth...ha ha??? we here in america are paying for this as well as our sons/daughters, etc... are also dying .................burns me up angers me, sigh...big selfish gov'tments...money hungry fools...care northing for life and others... absolutely disgusting and i do NOT understand how some can even look in the mirror or sleep at night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Faith, Hope and Love, the Greatest of these is LOVE!!!
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ys i think war efect every body but iraqis are sufering much more than in saddam time. soldiers r profesional so they know what they must do. one day afganistan the other day iraq & may be in the futur it will b iran or korea. but the iraqi who r dying r only poor civilian. also america decide to go to iraq & this not by invitation of the iraqi ppl. i wish there is no war so nobody die but the 1 who decide 4 this war is responsible 4 all the ppl dead. i hope u understand what i am trying 2 say. by 4 now.
I am starting to wonder if the USA wants a WAR here in this country...so they really can test the "patriot act"...homeland security, etc............................................. Am getting to the point that I rarely trust anyone, anything anymore... Also wonder if some that make tapes, books, websites, etc about the FALSE info re. 911, terror, etc......are perhaps gov't plants.......NOT ALL, but perhaps some...........sigh........ eventually I FEAR the war capitol may be here...... that indeed would be a total mess.......... i FEAR that this country may end up as devistated as yours........ I pray this NEVER happens.......... I HOPE i AM wrong........ Love, TR
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Faith, Hope and Love, the Greatest of these is LOVE!!!
"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell
Also wonder if some that make tapes, books, websites, etc about the FALSE info re. 911, terror, etc......are perhaps gov't plants.......NOT ALL, but perhaps some
Too much of the Washington version of events on 9/11 just didn't make sense. I'm pretty sure some of these conspiracy theories are correct but there are so many floating around these days. The events that followed 9/11 (the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq) put the US public into patriotic mode and took everyones attention away from questioning what really happened on 9/11. Perhaps the real truth would be too much for Americans to bear? Like I said, we'll never really know.
wellllllllllllllllll.......... deep subject.............. i do think some KNOW the real truth.......... there are some very intelligent, knowledgeable folks out there that r trying to educate the blind masses, so they quit acting like sheep. it is indeed a mess... so many just do NOT want to see it.... keep their blinders on... sigh........... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxoooooooooooo tr
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will try somex...issues.... azinorum...i am a trusting sort, always gets me into trouble... issues and friends/family r angry w me... sigh.......... george orwell's quote before pretty much says a lot
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ORIGINAL: YellowSunshine will try somex...issues....
Can you clarify SOMEX? you've used it in a couple of other posts but didn't want to appear ignorant in case the answer is too obvious. Swallowing my pride and awaiting your reply.
Sometime, well....... as said before have been through much, need to write a book, however, must make it "fiction" as many would NOT believe "my lifes story".
Sometime is hard for me to elaborate at present. Have some "puzzles" I have been trying to fit pieces into.
Think the parts fit, but not yet totally sure.
Call me crazy, I could give a "rip". I do strongly feel some folks in this world know certain things , they just plain simple KNOW , down in their soul, I prefer to call it the "Holy Spirit" of God.
. Can't really explain yet.
These forums are pretty open.
Take Care my friend .
me
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Perhaps i misread your question. U appear to be highly "with the program" (intelligent), a understanding kind sort with MUCH knowledge. Interesting as "we" spoke about before. In this day and age many are not what they may appear to be, however, I do believe, you like myself, R genuine. If we were not so far appart I should very much enjoy "picking your brain". As also, said before a GOOD meal. Genuine conversation and good authentic food. take care you, my friend, hey, I HAVE prayed for u, I hope that I am correct about my assumptions of your "soul" and character. me
oh......... how "old" r u & r u married? i am not too shabby for my age... LOL here!
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Democrats, Republicans.....no difference when it comes to Iraq. Both want to stay despite all the hot air coming out of the senate. The intelligence reports are all just a smoke screen. The bottom line is that the US Government does not want to leave Iraq to Iran.
Democrats drop Iraq pull-out plan BBC NEWS ONLINE - 25 May, 2007
Democrat congressional leaders have abandoned plans to tie support for a $100bn war funding bill to a timetable for troop withdrawal from Iraq.
The decision followed weeks of wrangling over the bill which the US president threatened to veto. Denying the move was a White House victory, Democrats said the bill would include extra funds for domestic use.
It came as declassified documents showed Osama Bin Laden asked the head of al-Qaeda in Iraq to target the US. Homeland security advisor Frances Townsend said that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, killed in a US air strike in June 2006, had been asked to set up a cell in the US.
Ms Townsend said the intelligence showed that Iraq remained a "terrorist sanctuary" from which al-Qaeda could plot attacks on the US.
The Republicans and Democrats - one big happy family.
Congress backs Iraq funding bill Both houses of the US Congress have passed a bill allocating $100bn (£50bn) of new funding for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan until the end of September. The House of Representatives voted in favour of the bill, and the Senate approved it shortly afterwards. Earlier President George W Bush praised the bill, a compromise measure between Republicans and Democrats which has no timetable for a US troop withdrawal. Hours later, the US military reported the deaths of five soldiers in Iraq.