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The Baghdad Wall - 4/21/2007 6:56:12 AM
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azinorum
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There’s a rumor has floating around Baghdad that the Americans were behind the Sarafiya Bridge bombing. Since Baghdad is unofficially the conspiracy theory capital of the world I decided to take it at face value. That is until I came across the below report published by the UK’s much respected Guardian newspaper. After reading it I decided to call some friends in Baghdad who all confirmed that they could see preparations being made for the latest in a long line of American dumb ideas.
I just want to ask what have we become, or rather what have they turned us into? Do we really need a wall to further highlight our petty religious differences? What about the psychological effect of having such a physical barrier separate Iraqis from their brothers? Have the Americans gone mad? Where do the Maliki government stand on the issue?
GUARDIAN REPORT
US soldiers are building a three-mile wall to separate one of Baghdad's Sunni enclaves from surrounding Shia neighbourhoods, it emerged today.
The move is part of a contentious security plan that has fuelled fears of the Iraqi capital's Balkanisation. When the barrier is finished, the minority Sunni community of Adamiya, on the eastern side of the River Tigris, will be completely gated. Traffic control points manned by Iraqi soldiers will provide the only access, the US military said.
"Shias are coming in and hitting Sunnis, and Sunnis are retaliating across the street," Captain Scott McLearn, of the US 407th brigade support battalion, told the Associated Press.
The project, which began on April 10, is being worked on almost nightly, with cranes swinging enormous concrete barriers into place.
Although Baghdad is rife with barriers around marketplaces and areas such as the heavily fortified Green Zone, this is the first in the city to be set up on sectarian lines.
The concrete wall, which will be up to 12ft high, "is one of the centrepieces of a new strategy by coalition and Iraqi forces to break the cycle of sectarian violence," US officials said.
The officials said the barrier would allow authorities to screen people entering and leaving Adamiya "while keeping death squads and militia groups out".
The construction - which has been nicknamed the "great wall of Adamiya" - is not the first time US military planners have attempted to isolate hostile regions.
In 2005, attempts were made to surround the Sunni-dominated city of Samarra with raised earth barriers to prevent insurgents from entering and leaving. A similar strategy was also deployed in both Tal Afar and Falluja.
General David Petraeus, the new US commander in Iraq, said he believed the tactics in Tal Afar, close to the Syrian border, were successful - but the area has since fallen back under insurgent control.
Critics of the scheme said it had been tried in past counter-insurgency campaigns in Vietnam and Algeria, but found wanting.
Some Sunnis living in Adamiya have welcomed the attempt to improve security but warned that it was another sign of the deep hostility between Sunnis and Shias.
Others were sceptical about the latest initiative to staunch the bloodshed in Baghdad, which reached new heights when a series of suicide bombings killed more than 200 people in a single day this week.
"I don't think this wall will solve the city's serious security problems," Ahmed Abdul-Sattar, a 35-year-old government worker, told the Associated Press. "It will only increase the separation between our people, which has been made so much worse by the war."
Meanwhile, the US defence secretary, Robert Gates, will today arrive in Iraq, where he is expected to meet sectarian leaders and government officials in Baghdad.
In his third trip to the country in four months, he is expected to put pressure on the Shia prime minister, Nuri al-Maliki, to move faster on reconciliation with the Sunnis, who have been elbowed aside since the fall of Saddam Hussein.
"The clock is ticking," Mr Gates told reporters yesterday. "I know it's difficult ... but I think that it's very important that they bend every effort to getting this legislation done as quickly as possible."
In an ominous sign for the US, an insurgent coalition yesterday announced an "Islamic cabinet" in an attempt to provide an alternative to the country's US-backed administration.
The Islamic State of Iraq group named the head of al-Qaida in Iraq as its "minister of war". The alliance of eight insurgent groups first emerged in October, claiming to hold territory in Sunni-dominated areas of western and central Iraq.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,2062023,00.html
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/22/2007 12:33:59 AM
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Sunni leader attacks Baghdad wall BBC NEWS ONLINE - 22 April, 2007 A senior Sunni politician has condemned a US military project to build a concrete wall around a Sunni enclave in the Iraqi capital, Baghdad.
US forces say the wall, which will separate Adhamiya from nearby Shia districts, aims to prevent sectarian violence between the two communities. But Adnan al-Dulaimi, who heads the biggest Sunni bloc in parliament, says it will breed yet more strife. Some Adhamiya residents have said the wall will make their district a prison.
"The Americans will provoke more trouble with this," one resident, Arkan Saeed, told the BBC. "They're telling us the wall is to protect us from the Shia militia and they're telling the Shia they're protecting them from us.
"But it's the Americans who started all the sectarian violence in the first place."
Adhamiya lies on the mainly Shia Muslim east bank of the Tigris river and violence regularly flares between the enclave and nearby Shia areas. Construction of the 5km (three-mile) concrete wall began on 10 April and the US military says it hopes to complete the project by the end of the month.
US troops, protected by heavily-armed vehicles, have been working at night to build the 3.6m (12 ft) wall. When it is finished, people will enter and leave Adhamiya through a small number of checkpoints guarded by US and Iraqi forces. The US military says the barrier is the centrepiece of its strategy to end sectarian violence in the area but insists there are no plans to divide up the whole city into gated communities.
Senior Sunni cleric Adnan al-Dulaimi, who leads the General Council for the People of Iraq which is part of the Iraqi Accord Front, said the wall was a disaster. Speaking to an Iraqi news agency, he said it would separate Adhamiya from the rest of Baghdad and help breed further violence.
'Maze of walls'
Some residents said the wall would harden the already bitter sectarian divide.
"Erecting concrete walls between neighbourhoods is not a solution to the collapse in security and the rampant violence," housewife Um Haider told AFP news agency.
"If so, Baghdadis would find themselves in a maze of high walls overnight."
Another resident, Mustafa, said: "I resent the barrier. It will make Adhamiya a big prison."
Other residents also expressed alarm and said they had not been consulted before construction began. "This will make the whole district a prison. This is collective punishment on the residents of Adhamiya," Ahmed al-Dulaimi told the Associated Press news agency.
"We are in our fourth year of occupation and we are seeing the number of blast walls increasing day after day."
US and Iraqi troops have long built cement barriers around key locations in Baghdad and other cities to prevent attacks, especially suicide car bombings. Iraq has been in the grip of raging sectarian violence since the bombing of an important Shia shrine in Samarra in February 2006.
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/22/2007 1:58:39 AM
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إطلاق نارعلى موكب للحكيم.. والمهاجري"وزير حرب" القاعدة
سور حول حي الأعظمية السني لكسر حدة "العنف الطائفي"ببغداد
بغداد - وكالات
بدأت القوات الامريكية بناء سور حول حي الأعظيمة السني في بغداد ضمن استراتيجية تهدف إلى كسر ما تسميه حلقة العنف الطائفي، فيما اتهم جنرال أمريكي قوات المخابرات الايرانية بتقديم الدعم للمسلحين السنة بالاضافة الى الشيعة لزعزعة استقرار البلاد وشغل القوات الامريكية، بينما قال مسؤولون عراقيون الجمعة 20-4-2007 إن موكب عمار الحكيم نجل رئيس قائمة الائتلاف الموحد عبد العزيز الحكيم تعرض لاطلاق نار لدى مروره في اللطيفية, جنوب بغداد, ما ادى الى جرح ستة من حراسه
في حين، جاء في بيان نشر على الانترنت أن جماعة دولة العراق الاسلامية المرتبطة بتنظيم القاعدة شكلت مجلس وزراء وسمت زعيم القاعدة المحلي أبو حمزة المهاجر وزيرا للحرب، وتزامن ذلك مع دعوة وزيرالدفاع الأمريكي روبروت غيتس على تسريع وتيرة المصالحة.
وفي التفاصيل، بدأ العمل في العاشر من ابريل/ نيسان في السور الاسمنتي بطول خمسة كيلومترات في حي الاعظمية ذي الأغلبية السنية ويحيط به مناطق شيعية من ثلاثة جوانب، وقال ضابط العلاقات العامة السارجنت مايك بريور في مقال نشره الجيش
الامريكي أن هذا السور هو أحد الاجزاء المركزية في استراتيجية جديدة لقوات التحالف والقوات العراقية لكسر حلقة العنف الطائفي
وقال مقال بريور ان الاعظمية اصبحت محاصرة وسط"تصاعد العنف الطائفي والاعمال الانتقامية"، وان العمل سيتواصل في السور الذي يصل رتفاع جدرانه الى ثلاثة امتار ونصف المتر، وقال بريوران السور سيحمي العرب السنة الذين يعيشون في الاعظمية من هجمات المسلحين الشيعة وسيمنع المسلحين السنة أيضا من شن هجمات في مناطق شيعية ثم العودة الى الاعظمية.
من جهة أخرى قال مسؤولون بارزون بالجيش الامريكي في بغداد ان الجدار لا يهدف الى تقسيم العاصمة الى مناطق منفصلة ضمن حملة أمنية مستمرة منذ شهرين، في حين ذكرت صحيفة "وول ستريت جورنال" في وقت سابق من هذا الشهر أن مشروعا مماثلا بدأ حول حي الدورة وهو منطقة سنية أخرى في جنوب بغداد.
المصدر : العربيه نت
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/22/2007 2:34:36 AM
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I read the report, and I couldn't believe what they are thinking. Furthermore this government hasn't got a clue on how to govern. I stood by them many times, but I think they are not learning all. They are the (Yes Sir) government, they agree with everything thrown at them as they haven't got ideas of their own. Bring Iyad Allawie back.
Simply a bunch of idiots.
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/22/2007 1:51:06 PM
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الاخ عقراوي بالنسبة لسور الاعظمية فهو ليس بوحده انها اسوار ترهق الخارج من داخله وقت الرجوع اضف الى التحقيقات ماذا تحمل واين كنت والويل لمن كذب عليهم فهو مراقب في كل حركاته ولهذا فان اهل الاعظمية وغيرهم اعتبروه هدر للحريات الشخصية والجماعية وللحديث بقية
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/22/2007 2:21:37 PM
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As i have been saying since this war start this is ethinic cleasing with a cover. Do recall the Berlin wall, the Americans said "tear it own" now they are building a wall for the protection of IRaqis, sure i really beleive this lie and Maliki and his gang are falling apart very quicky, americans need to leave IRaq also. Sunnis/Shia we are lived together for 1000's of years and all of Iraq has mixed families. These excuses the fake gov't and americans make is so they can justify saying in Iraq.
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/23/2007 1:39:58 AM
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They started building this wall 2 weeks ago yet Maliki waited till there was a public and International outcry before he opened his mouth. Does he want us to believe that the Iraqi Government had no knowledge of the wall till now? Who are they kidding?
Iraqi PM criticises Baghdad wall Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki has asked for construction to end on a concrete wall around a Sunni enclave in the capital, Baghdad. Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6582225.stm
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/23/2007 3:01:14 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: akrawi1
اما ما يخص الاعظمية انا اعتقد من مصلحة السكان هناك اقامة سور لهم لمنع جحوش المهدي والقاعدة على السواء للدخول هناك والسلام
Salam: One wall will lead to another. I'm sure the people of A3thamiya view this wall as prison rather than a barrier against the Jihoosh and Al Qaida. Putting up barriers to separate brothers is not the answer.
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/23/2007 3:40:10 AM
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2 words from me - BERLIN WALL.
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/23/2007 1:21:01 PM
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The new US ambassador defends the idea of a wall in central Baghdad.
Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6584643.stm
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/23/2007 1:42:26 PM
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US to re-assess Baghdad wall after PM orders halt BAGHDAD (AFP) - The US military said Monday it will re-assess measures to secure Baghdad after Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki ordered it to stop building a concrete wall around a dangerous Sunni enclave.
"We are aware of what the press has reported that the prime minister said," US military spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Christopher Garver said in an email to AFP.
"The government of Iraq and multinational forces in Iraq do agree that we need to protect the people of Iraq," he added.
"How that is done is always being discussed and we will continue that dialogue. We will coordinate with the Iraqi government and Iraqi commanders in order to establish effective, appropriate security measures."
Maliki told a press conference in Cairo on Sunday that he was against walling in Baghdad's Adhamiyah district. "I am opposed to the building of the wall and its construction is going to stop," he said. Since April 10, US paratroopers have been deploying at night around Adhamiyah, located in mainly Shiite east Baghdad, to erect a five-kilometre (three-mile) wall made of six-tonne (14,000-pound) concrete sections.
The wall was designed to prevent Shiite death squads from launching attacks to drive out the Sunnis from the district, and to prevent Sunni insurgents from using the pocket as a base for raids into Shiite areas. Angry residents and lawmakers too have expressed strong opposition to the wall, saying it hardened the already bitter divide between the two communities. US commanders on Sunday had announced plans to construct similar walls in other restive neighbourhoods of the capital.
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/24/2007 11:28:06 AM
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I see Israeli fingerprints on this plan; just as they built a wall to keep Palestinians out, they are now (I believe) involved in building this wall. Furthermore, just think of how meny millions of $$$’s are getting ripped off, and pocketed by the contracting company to supply the wall units.
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/25/2007 2:20:43 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Harry
I see Israeli fingerprints on this plan; just as they built a wall to keep Palestinians out, they are now (I believe) involved in building this wall.
Harry: FYI Dar Babel for Studies & Information (Mosul) has issued a report (link below in Arabic, April 24, 2007) indicating that work on the "walls" that are now being put up in Iraq have been in preparation for over three months. This project is being headed by Ahmad Al-Chalabi in conjunction with the Israeli company of Zeef Belinsky who has a long track record in ghetto construction, and with Al-Mahdi Army's financing and labor. The document provides sufficient details on the six work locations producing these concrete blocks, for easier targeting. Quite the little arrangement!
LINK: http://www.iraqsnuclearmirage.com/articles/walls.html
Note: Sorry I couldn't paste into the post. Harry is there anyway we can embed images?
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/25/2007 6:52:05 AM
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Report from the WP concerning the A3hamiya wall. Interesting analogy.
Walls turn Baghdad into Belfast
Eugene Robinson Washington Post - 24 April, 2007 Meanwhile, back in Baghdad, we're building a wall. Actually, quite a few walls. While we were absorbed with the terrible tragedy at Virginia Tech -- and before that the Don Imus affair and the Alberto Gonzales tragicomedy -- the war in Iraq was pushed below the fold. While we weren't looking, the U.S. military started building high walls in parts of the Iraqi capital to separate Sunnis from Shiites. Basically, we're turning Baghdad into Belfast. This is supposed to be a temporary expedient, a way to tamp down Iraq's sectarian civil war -- in the capital, at least, which is the ostensible goal of George W. Bush's fraudulent "surge" policy -- by making it harder for the antagonists to get at each other's throats. The so-called "peace lines" in Belfast, separating Protestants from Catholics, were supposed to be temporary, too. That network of walls was begun in the 1970s. The construction of barriers and checkpoints that turn Baghdad neighborhoods into what U.S. officers sardonically call "gated communities" is another sign -- as if more evidence were needed -- that Bush's "surge" is nothing more than a maneuver intended to buy time. His open-ended commitment for U.S. forces to patrol those barriers and guard those checkpoints will become the next president's problem. The walls that have been built so far didn't prevent the car bombs in Baghdad last week, including at the Sadriya market that killed nearly 200 people. Even the heavy fortifications surrounding the Green Zone, where the American presence and the Iraqi "unity" government are headquartered, couldn't keep a suicide bomber from detonating his explosives in the cafeteria of the Iraqi parliament. But let's assume that if U.S. forces build enough walls and make it hard enough for Iraqis to move around their own capital, the violence in Baghdad may decline somewhat. In that event, the Shiite death squads and Sunni suicide bombers will simply do their killing elsewhere in Iraq. There's considerable evidence that this already is happening. Both the president and his many critics say that the real problem in Iraq is political -- that there will be no genuine prospects for peace until Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and his Shiite-dominated government reach a negotiated accommodation with the Sunni insurgency. The barriers going up right now -- The Washington Post reported that at least 10 Baghdad neighborhoods will be isolated behind walls -- likely will make Sunni-Shiite reconciliation a more distant goal. If anything, walls will accelerate the sectarian cleansing that has been purifying formerly mixed neighborhoods. Walls divide; they do not unite. Walls give concrete expression to hatreds and prejudices, establishing them as artifacts not of the mind but of the landscape. When I was the Post's London correspondent in the early 1990s, I covered the Northern Ireland conflict. The first thing I went to see in Belfast was the notorious "peace line" between the Falls Road, a Catholic stronghold, and Shankill Road, a Protestant redoubt. Everything looked the same on both sides -- the houses, the shops, the people -- yet it was as if they were two different countries. Animosities had been passed down through generations. Even now, 15 years later, a civil exchange between two of the leading antagonists -- Ian Paisley and Gerry Adams -- is big news. How many years will it take to get to that point in Baghdad? Bush has enmeshed the United States in a civil conflict that will take years, probably decades, to resolve. The building of walls mocks the administration's happy-talk rhetoric about how much political progress the Iraqis are making. If the Iraqi government really is the exercise in inclusive democracy that Bush claims, walls would be coming down. Putting up new walls only makes sense if the White House foresees a substantial U.S. military presence in Iraq for many years to come. Clearly, the Iraqi government is not ready to do the job of policing the enclaves that are being created. The government doesn't even want to do the job. Maliki complained Sunday about a new wall in Adhamiyah, a Sunni neighborhood, saying it "reminds us of other walls that we reject." Maybe he was thinking of Belfast, or maybe of Berlin, or maybe of the wall that the Israelis have built between themselves and the Palestinians. Or maybe he is beginning to realize how easy it is to build walls and how hard to tear them down.
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/25/2007 9:33:07 AM
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You can add an image, but not from your own computer; you can use an image that is on the net allready, or if you have a home page that includes the image, by using the URL. It is the last icon to the right, next to "remove link".
If any one wants to add images from his/her own computer; then they should send a P.M. to the admin and ask him for that option, I am sure there is a way to do that.
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/25/2007 10:25:31 AM
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 Gov't deception all over the world!!! New World Order, Puppets abound...
Sick, Sick, Sick!!!
People all over the world need to take off their blinders and WAKE UP!
enough death, enough deceit, enough already!!!
God Bless you and yours.
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/25/2007 10:27:26 AM
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/27/2007 10:17:52 AM
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Quick thought here... walls make a lot of "sitting ducks"....maybe wrong, maybe not...sigh...who knows anymore???????????
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/28/2007 6:26:37 AM
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This is the latest report re the "great wall of Baghdad" written by a group calling themselves Iraqi freedom congress. The so called IFC have just set up a Satellite channel. Never heard of them before but here is their statement about the wall and there is a link at the foot of the page which will take you to their website:
Iraq: civil resistance rejects Baghdad wall
Submitted by WW4 Report on Fri, 04/27/2007 - 23:07
The Discriminatory Wall of Adamya Must be Abolished Immediately
In an unprecedented action in the history of Iraq, the U.S.-led occupying troops have begun the building of a wall made of concrete to separate the district of Adamya from neighboring districts on a pretext of stopping the terrorist activities. The Prime Minister, Nouri Almailki, even went further to say that the wall aims to protect the residents of the district from violence.
In fact, this act has nothing to do with the terrorist activities nor can it stop these acts. The roots of terrorism cannot be cut off by building a wall. Terrorists were able to penetrate and blow up the Parliament building recently despite the intensive security plan. The occupiers attempt to hide the truth about the main reason of terrorism which is the occupation and its entire political process.
This wall is similar to the Israeli one that aimed to "stop the terrorist activities of Palestinians." Just as the wall couldn’t protect Israel, to the same degree it won’t protect the sectarian and discriminating government of Iraq because both parties refuse to acknowledge the reason for the violence.
Putting up barricades is a terrorist act against people that have lived for centuries in love and harmony. This wall is a mass revenge against the residents of the district similar to the Israeli government's action against the civilians of Palestine. No one who has the least degree of humanity would like to see children sneaking through the wall to attend school. It is an absolutely reckless move that endangers the lives of tens of thousands of residents of the district.
This act will destroy all essential habits of people that have been practiced for thousands of years; it will make the city look like the Gaza Strip. It will impose the climate of fear and war over the people. It will transform the people into potential fuel for any upcoming war. It will put people in situations where they can easily be blackmailed, falsely accused, or used for revenge. The consequences of this wall will be so far removed to be traced. In brief, the people of Adamya will be considered second degree citizens.
The occupiers will replicate this action in all hot spots and will transform the country into ghettos where suspicion and fear will dominate the people. Keeping silent on this ugly action will give the government the strength to go ahead and apply it everywhere in the country.
As Iraq Freedom Congress vigorously condemns this dangerous unprecedented act it demands the occupiers and its puppet government to discontinue building the wall and demolish it. IFC also calls on all humanitarian and libertarian forces around the world to condemn this act and put the U.S. administration under pressure to stop this oppressive policy.
Iraq Freedom Congress
April 23, 2007
LINK: http://www.ifcongress.com/English/manifesto_of%20congress.htm
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/28/2007 7:44:51 AM
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just learned a new term "False Flag"...
interesting...
perhaps there are some on here that r doing their own "false flag" type of posts, not whom they appear to be...
just the way this world is now...
UGLY... I despise LIARS ....
sigh,
x to get off here,
later, xxxxxxxxxxxxxooooooooooo
me
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/28/2007 7:47:32 AM
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YellowSunshine
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Oh perhaps off topic????????????
anyway can get a type of satellite viewer from google.......
fascinating.........tho. doesn't work too well on a slow internet connection.
bye, this now is a must.........later
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 4/29/2007 8:40:54 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: YellowSunshine
anyway can get a type of satellite viewer from google.......
What type and how can I get one?
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RE: The Baghdad Wall - 5/5/2007 11:02:09 AM
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azinorum
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Mr. Bush, Tear Down That Wall
By Eugene Robinson Posted on Apr 24, 2007
WASHINGTON—Meanwhile, back in Baghdad, we’re building a wall. Actually, quite a few walls. While we were absorbed with the terrible tragedy at Virginia Tech—and before that the Don Imus affair and the Alberto Gonzales tragicomedy—the war in Iraq was pushed below the fold. While we weren’t looking, the U.S. military started building high walls in parts of the Iraqi capital to separate Sunnis from Shiites. Basically, we’re turning Baghdad into Belfast.
This is supposed to be a temporary expedient, a way to tamp down Iraq’s sectarian civil war—in the capital, at least, which is the ostensible goal of George W. Bush’s fraudulent “surge” policy—by making it harder for the antagonists to get at each other’s throats. The so-called “peace lines” in Belfast, separating Protestants from Catholics, were supposed to be temporary, too. That network of walls was begun in the 1970s.
The construction of barriers and checkpoints that turn Baghdad neighborhoods into what U.S. officers sardonically call “gated communities” is another sign—as if more evidence were needed—that Bush’s “surge” is nothing more than a maneuver intended to buy time. His open-ended commitment for U.S. forces to patrol those barriers and guard those checkpoints will become the next president’s problem. The walls that have been built so far didn’t prevent the car bombs in Baghdad last week, including at the Sadriya market, that killed nearly 200 people. Even the heavy fortifications surrounding the Green Zone, where the American presence and the Iraqi “unity” government are headquartered, couldn’t keep a suicide bomber from detonating his explosives in the cafeteria of the Iraqi parliament.
But let’s assume that if U.S. forces build enough walls and make it hard enough for Iraqis to move around their own capital, the violence in Baghdad may decline somewhat. In that event, the Shiite death squads and Sunni suicide bombers will simply do their killing elsewhere in Iraq. There’s considerable evidence that this already is happening.
Both the president and his many critics say that the real problem in Iraq is political—that there will be no genuine prospects for peace until Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and his Shiite-dominated government reach a negotiated accommodation with the Sunni insurgency. The barriers going up right now—The Washington Post reported that at least 10 Baghdad neighborhoods will be isolated behind walls—likely will make Sunni-Shiite reconciliation a more distant goal. If anything, walls will accelerate the sectarian cleansing that has been purifying formerly mixed neighborhoods.
Walls divide; they do not unite. Walls give concrete expression to hatreds and prejudices, establishing them as artifacts not of the mind but of the landscape. When I was the Post’s London correspondent in the early 1990s, I covered the Northern Ireland conflict. The first thing I went to see in Belfast was the notorious “peace line” between the Falls Road, a Catholic stronghold, and Shankill Road, a Protestant redoubt. Everything looked the same on both sides—the houses, the shops, the people—yet it was as if they were two different countries. Animosities had been passed down through generations. Even now, 15 years later, a civil exchange between two of the leading antagonists—Ian Paisley and Gerry Adams—is big news.
How many years will it take to get to that point in Baghdad?
Bush has enmeshed the United States in a civil conflict that will take years, probably decades, to resolve. The building of walls mocks the administration’s happy-talk rhetoric about how much political progress the Iraqis are making. If the Iraqi government really is the exercise in inclusive democracy that Bush claims, walls would be coming down. Putting up new walls only makes sense if the White House foresees a substantial U.S. military presence in Iraq for many years to come.
Clearly, the Iraqi government is not ready to do the job of policing the enclaves that are being created. The government doesn’t even want to do the job. Maliki complained Sunday about a new wall in Adhamiyah, a Sunni neighborhood, saying it “reminds us of other walls that we reject.” Maybe he was thinking of Belfast, or maybe of Berlin, or maybe of the wall that the Israelis have built between themselves and the Palestinians.
Or maybe he is beginning to realize how easy it is to build walls and how hard to tear them down.
Eugene Robinson’s e-mail address is eugenerobinson(at symbol)washpost.com.
(c) 2007, Washington Post Writers Group
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