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Hi zim. Various sources really. You can see most of them in my thread "Iraqi Websites". but I also use Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons, Encyclopedia Britannica and others.
Azi.
I personally do not trust “Wikipedia”, since it is a site where so many of its articles can be edited by almost everyone. One time (just for the fun of it) a few of my friends an I at the college, edited an article on “Wikipedia”; inputting falls information that had nothing to do with the topic, even though it looked real original and part of it.
After 34 days, our work was still there; no one really paid attention to our falls input. We finally removed what we added to keep the subject as it was.
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i meet a kurdish man yesterday and he say he is from a vilage in the north of iraq called shakalawah. the name remind me of the arabic sweet baklawa. do any one know what shakalwah mean or have any info on shakalawa?
This is the only thing I found about Shakalawa or "Shaqlawa".
تسمية شقلاوا لم يتفق عليها المؤرخون حيث اورد كلا منهم استنتاجا خاصا به، لكن المعروف انه حتى القرن الثاني عشر لم يذكر اسم شقلاوا.. وقد أورده ياقوت الحموي في كتابه معجم البلدان تحت اسم (شقلاباد) بينما وردت في كتب طقوس الكنيسة المحفوظة باسم كنيسة (شقلاباذ)، وتحت اسم (شقاباد) في كتاب تاريخ ميراني سوران لكاتبه حسين حزني موكرياني، وتحت اسم (شاقلي اوا) في كتاب تاريخ الكرد وكردستان للكاتب محمد امين زكي
ORIGINAL: Harry I personally do not trust “Wikipedia”, since it is a site where so many of its articles can be edited by almost everyone. One time (just for the fun of it) a few of my friends an I at the college, edited an article on “Wikipedia”; inputting falls information that had nothing to do with the topic, even though it looked real original and part of it.
After 34 days, our work was still there; no one really paid attention to our falls input. We finally removed what we added to keep the subject as it was.
Hi Harry. Yes, Wikipedia is still in its experimental stage and will need time to settle in order to be considered as an 100% accurate. I think thats what makes it fun and allows for debate.
here are 2 articles which you might find interesting. Good to see you posting regularly again.
Wikipedia continues to struggle with its basic principles, defined in part by the site's community of authors and in part by the brains behind the project, founder Jimmy Wales. FULL STORY: http://www.technewsworld.com/story/57464.html
This is the only thing I found about Shakalawa or "Shaqlawa".
تسمية شقلاوا لم يتفق عليها المؤرخون حيث اورد كلا منهم استنتاجا خاصا به، لكن المعروف انه حتى القرن الثاني عشر لم يذكر اسم شقلاوا.. وقد أورده ياقوت الحموي في كتابه معجم البلدان تحت اسم (شقلاباد) بينما وردت في كتب طقوس الكنيسة المحفوظة باسم كنيسة (شقلاباذ)، وتحت اسم (شقاباد) في كتاب تاريخ ميراني سوران لكاتبه حسين حزني موكرياني، وتحت اسم (شاقلي اوا) في كتاب تاريخ الكرد وكردستان للكاتب محمد امين زكي
i meet a kurdish man yesterday and he say he is from a vilage in the north of iraq called shakalawah. the name remind me of the arabic sweet baklawa. do any one know what shakalwah mean or have any info on shakalawa?
This is the only thing I found about Shakalawa or "Shaqlawa".
تسمية شقلاوا لم يتفق عليها المؤرخون حيث اورد كلا منهم استنتاجا خاصا به، لكن المعروف انه حتى القرن الثاني عشر لم يذكر اسم شقلاوا.. وقد أورده ياقوت الحموي في كتابه معجم البلدان تحت اسم (شقلاباد) بينما وردت في كتب طقوس الكنيسة المحفوظة باسم كنيسة (شقلاباذ)، وتحت اسم (شقاباد) في كتاب تاريخ ميراني سوران لكاتبه حسين حزني موكرياني، وتحت اسم (شاقلي اوا) في كتاب تاريخ الكرد وكردستان للكاتب محمد امين زكي
Karbala (Arabic: كربلاء; BGN: Al-Karbalā’; also spelled Karbala al-Muqaddasah) In the time of Husayn ibn Alī's life, the place was also known as al-Ghadiriyah, Naynawa, and Shathi'ul-Furaat. The estimated population in 2003 was 572,300 people. It is the capital of Al-Karbala Province. ShiahMuslims consider Karbala to be one of their holiest cities after Makkah, Madinah, Jerusalem and Najaf. The city is best known as the location of the Battle of Karbala.
Morning everyone. Some new additions for the collection:
Baqubah (Arabic: بعقوبة; BGN: Ba‘qūbah; ) is the capital of Iraq's Diyala Governorate.
The city is located some 50 km to the northeast of Baghdad, on the Diyala River, just outside Iraq's so-called Sunni Triangle. In 2002 it had an estimated population of some 280,000 people.
The site has been inhabited continuously since pre-Islamic times as a center for agriculture and commerce. The name itself is thought to have come from the Assyrian language Baya 'quba, meaning “Yacoub's (Jacob) house.” It served as a waystation between Baghdad and Khorasan on the medieval Silk Road. It is now known as the center of Iraq's commercial orange groves.
Al-Qādisiyyah (in Arabic: القادسية) is one of the provinces of Iraq. It is in the center of the country. Its capital is ad-Diwāniyyah. Before 1976, it was part of the ad-Diwāniyyah Province, along with al-Muthannā Governorate and Najaf Governorate.
Salman Pak ( سلمانباك ) is a town approximately 15 miles south of Baghdad near a peninsula formed by a broad eastward bend of the Tigris River. It is quite close to the Salman Pak facility. Salman Pak is also site of the Arch of Ctesiphon, one of the largest and oldest freestanding arches in the world.
Karrada (Arabic: كرّادة) is a major affluent district of the city Baghdad, Iraq. It is of a mixed population but it is noted for having majority of Shia population. The presence of Christians are notable in the area. It is considered one of the most integrated areas of the city since its residences in general have roots in the area Karrada as a land is part of a peninsula created by the Tigris river significant turn, which gives this part of the city a remarkable character. The area has the river running on both sides. Although the peninsula created by the river is not all Karrada, the latter represents the major portion of it. The other significant part of the peninsula, though not as big as Karrada, is Al-Jadriya. It is a small district which lies at the south tip of the peninsula where Tigris river makes its major turn and heads to the north-east. Its significance comes from the quality of life style of the neighborhood. The real estate is the most expensive of all Baghdad. The design and the building of the University of Baghdad Campus in 1958 in this area added to its value since this project had become one of the important cultural centers of the city. The University of Baghdad campus was designed by Walter Gropius, AIA, Louis Mcmillen and Robert McMillan of The Architects Collaborative.
Al Khalis or Khalis whose population center is the city by the same name, is one of the six districts of the Diyala Governorate. The city of Al Khalis is roughly 15 kilometers (9 mi) North of Baqubah. The Khalis district houses the Iranian opposition group, the People's Mujahedin of Iran (PMOI) in Camp Ashraf. They are currently being protected by the U.S. military and Bulgarian Army, on Forward Operating Base Grizzly. Ashraf City residents are all considered as "protected persons," under the Fourth Geneva Convention.
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Salman Pak ( سلمانباك ) is a town approximately 15 miles south of Baghdad near a peninsula formed by a broad eastward bend of the Tigris River. It is quite close to the Salman Pak facility. Salman Pak is also site of the Arch of Ctesiphon, one of the largest and oldest freestanding arches in the world.
The Ctesiphon arch The Ctesiphon arch is also considered as one of the many architectural wonders of Mesopotamia. This arch was built in 400 A.D. by the Parthian Persians to be the largest single-span vault of un-reinforced brickwork in the world. The arch has a span of seventy-five feet and is about 110 feet high. It stands in the ancient city of Ctesiphon. Ctesiphon is a historically significant city that lies on the east bank of the Tigris River just south of Baghdad. The arch was originally a part of Sapor’s palace; and when Chosroes I (531-579 A.D.), the mighty Persian king known to Arabs as Kisra, rebuilt the palace, the arch remained as part of its huge banqueting-hall. Ctesiphon was Chosroes’ winter capital and it is at this palace that Chosroes received the ambassadors of the kingdoms of the world. The arch is called the Arch of Chosroes (Taq-Kisra in Arabic) although Chosroes did not build it. It was in 637 A.D. that Ctesiphon fell to the Muslim Army, under the leadership of the great Muslim warrior Khalid Ibn Al-Waleed, as promised to them by Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. The Ctesiphon arch is a pointed ovoid peculiar to Mesopotamian architecture; it was built using unfired, thin mud bricks, which were laid on a slant. This allowed the weight of the bricks to be transmitted to the sidewalls. The bricks fit perfectly into each other to form a true marvel of architecture. These intriguing archaeological and architectural treasures that date back to Mesopotamia can be found scattered throughout Iraq, verifying the true skill, talent, and expertise of the ancient Mesopotamian architects and builders.
< Message edited by Harry -- 6/21/2007 11:26:59 AM >
there are other iraqi cities you have not mentioned and you had forgoten them and they are very important for mesopotamia and originally for iraqis not ever for turkey or those syrians and they are (diyar baker, diyar modar, haran, mardin, haran, and many other places and qamishly, hasaka , dear al zor, mary, al raha, al nasibaen, and many other great of the oldest cities in the world in mesopotamia and the first ones of the world).
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there are other iraqi cities you have not mentioned and you had forgoten them
Do you see guys? you see how the all american attitude works? Just another criticism, instead of searching, finding, and contributing something useful, all he does is criticize others.
I believe it’s his 2006 personalities that are clashing with each other, they can never agree on doing something constructive.
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searching finding oh please have you searched the other parts of mesopotamians cities that it was taken by turkey and syria and persia please harry you are armenian origin try to find the original land mesopotamia before it was divided into diffirent parts please please just do it and you will see that mesopotamia is much more than this what you call it iraq that it was named like that before 1400 years old at the beginning of islam.
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harry
searching finding oh please have you searched the other parts of mesopotamians cities that it was taken by turkey and syria and persia please harry you are armenian origin try to find the original land mesopotamia before it was divided into diffirent parts please please just do it and you will see that mesopotamia is much more than this what you call it iraq that it was named like that before 1400 years old at the beginning of islam.
“DeJavous” however it’s spelled. I am laughing on the outside but crying on the inside, how can a person be called a human, or be paid attention to, when that person is showing all the symptoms of a parasite, feeding on the accomplishments of others.
Instead of trying to help save the world, IT only plants hatred and destruction. Instead of trying to help save humanity, IT only criticizes and passes the buck. Instead of being proud of its` nationality, IT curses and spits on their faces.
I am sure that a pathetic creature like IT has no place not only among us Iraqis, but also among the entire human and non-human populations. I wish I could face IT one day, so I can squish it with my old shoe before I through it in the trash.
IT = You know who.
< Message edited by Harry -- 6/22/2007 6:32:39 PM >
oh a very nice poem but do not to excited and also respect yourself when you are saying parasite to any one and watch your mouth harry do not make yourself smart and brave for nothing beware of that, and please this poem say it someone else when you are going anywhere in your outgoing travles, and also you are not iraqi you are armenian get over with it understood.
1. You have arabic posters who refuse to join in because english the the language of the devil and the occupiers. 2. The same arabic posters have turned this forum into a newswire were 99% of their contribution is simply cut and paste news reports without any original comment. 3. Not enough smillies to enhance users emotions when they post comments. 4. Then you have Sadiq who just repeates the same old negative mantra. He seems to think if he says it enough times we might just believe it. This is the most annoying because when members take the time to make an original contribution he comes in and ruins it all by giving us his "Im an American who loves Mesopotamia" bullshit.
Hi Harry, cant you speak to the owner and ask him to give us more smillies? Does it cost too much money? I think they are free to download. There are some really good ones which we need. Pleeeease. Thank you.
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I am guessing that the set of smilies we have came as a part of the package with the software. However I will write to the admin and hope he will have time to read it. I have been trying to contact him lately; I am yet to hear from him.
As I said, I will write to him, it’s no trouble at all. However some of you might try writing to him also. Have anyone tried using other sets of smilies? And see if they work in the forum?
Hi Azi. I am trying to find some details on my small village MANGIESH but no success. I will keep trying but if you find irt first pls post it for me.
zimzim. I didn't forget about you. Here is a little something about your village:
Doski District The center is Mangish town and far from territory center in about (30) KM. Its area is about (454) sqkm and contains (63) villages all of them were destroyed except the district center and Hogava village. The district joins the governorate center by a paved road branches from the north of Zawita narrow passage to the north- western passing in the middle of Doski area.
The word Mangish has several meanings such as:
It is said that one of the disciples called (prophet Tom) had passed this area when he travelled to India and (Tom) was the one who touched the Christ to believe his resurrection, the process is called (Man- Kash) in Assyrian language therefore the area is named according to this process. The second opinion says that it came from the word (Mikosh) which means Magi and the evidence to prove that is the places of worshiping the God according to Zaradishta religion principles in them and after the spreading of christianty religion among the people of the area, the temple was changed into a church.
The district is well- known of having excellent pasture lands and dense forests, the citizens depend on winter season agiculture such as wheat, barley, lentils and chick- peas, getting benefit from the flat and plain lands and knolls like (Deragizhnik) plain and (Telakorow) knoll and other flat and even lands spread in all parts of the district beside the farms of seasonal grapes and fruitful trees like nuts, figs, pears, sumach and fruit fields like such as peaches, apricots, apples and quinces. They also practise summer season argriculture like, tomatoes, rice, peas, beans, tobacco, onions, garlic and others getting benefit from the water of springs spread in villages and valleys beside the following small rivers:
In addition to Khabir river which forms the nothern- western border of the district, it is benefited from its eastern bank in a dense way for agriculture and also from the water and the bank of western Sepna tributary which forms the nothern border of the district. The citizens take care of breeding the cattle and the poultry.
The most important mountain in the district is the series of Kamaka mountain which extends from the east to the west till it meets with the White mountain Birgeen village which is erected to the south of the district in addition to the kovili heights, Beroski and Zewka- Abu.
Remains, hills, castles and archaeological cities are found in the district, Duhok Archaeology Office recorded (36) archaeological location such as (Adid Nirari) statue in Dergla sheikha, Geripete, Deragizhnik remains, Besefike, Derk, Babukheke, Gelnaseke and others beside the precious scripts in Mangish church their reign belonged to (1574).
There are many suitable places to be beautiful resorts like Gelnaseke, Dukhorik, Besheenk and others.
After the sacred uprising and the formation of Kurdistan Region Government, the governmental offices with NGOs became proactive to reconstruct the majority of villages belonging to the district and to build schools, health centers and mosques in addition to the water projects in the district.
Babylon (in Arabic: بابل) was an ancient city in Mesopotamia (modern Al Hillah, Iraq), the ruins of which can be found in present-day Babil Province, about 80km south of Baghdad. The form Babylon is the Greek variant of Akkadian Babilu (bāb-ilû, meaning "Gateway of the god(s)", translating Sumerian KA.DINGIR.RA). It was the "holy city" of Babylonia from around 2300 BC, and the seat of the Neo-Babylonian Empire from 612 BC. In the Bible, the name appears as בבל (Bavel), interpreted by Genesis 11:9 to mean "confusion", from the verb balal, "to confuse". Babylon was an important city, both politically and aesthetically. The Hanging Gardens of Babylon was one of the Seven Wonders of the Ancient World. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Babylon_relief.jpg
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