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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 4/20/2007 9:15:10 AM   
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oh i am sorry calm did i make you angry oh please give me a break since when the kurds they were smart and civilized.
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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 4/20/2007 9:15:14 AM   
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stick only with the mesopotamian origin names the native of these cities mesopotamia. 


Hey sadiq:
 
I am getting fed up with your idiocy; I don’t see you contributing anything to this forum, all you are doing is criticizing everyone else. You either write something constructive; or stop the B. S. Your next post will be deleted unless you add something useful to this forum in particular, and this site in general.
 
Oh, and by the way, Take some English classes before you continue your writings.
 
Get it?

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 4/20/2007 11:54:24 AM   
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Oh, and by the way, Take some English classes before you continue your writings.


My dear Harry...are you insinuating that sadiq2006 doesn't speak good English?? You must be mistaken, he is an American after all. His only weakness is that he can't yet understand Arabic but he's lucky to have a very, very good friend who is kind enough to take lots of time out to help Sadiq read, translate and source the Arabic articles which he regularly posts on iraq4u. 

Given that Sadiq2006 has already confirmed that his mother tongue is English your suggesting that he take classes is crazy to the point of being deranged.  Unless you mean that our good friend Sadiq isn't who he claims to be?  Surely not!!

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 4/20/2007 12:20:47 PM   
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Does anyone know the meaning of the name Dohuk? Sources I've come across claim the name comes from Kurmanji Kurdish meaning small village.

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 4/21/2007 12:43:23 AM   
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sorry becuase this is not about iraq citys but i think u will all like it.


You know you're Iraqi when...

1. You originally have no Arab blood, you're either Turkish, Iranian, Assyrian, Chaldean, Kurdish, Turkomen, or Indian in origin, but somehow you're Arab!


2. When surrounded by other Arab nationalities and you speak Iraqi no one knows what the hell you're saying.

3. When talking to Egyptians your Iraqi accent turns Egyptian, when talking to Lebanese, your accent turns Lebanese, ...etc.

4. If you're a guy, all the Iraqi women already have their eyes on you and want you for their daughter.

5. If you're a girl, all the Iraqi women think their sons are too good for you.

6. When Iraqi women get together, they all compete in who's got the loudest voice, and they all talk at the same time.

7. Every Iraqi family is dysfunctional in one way or another.

8. Every Iraqi has a bit of im3aydee in them.

9. Iraqis have an extensive and exclusive swearing vocabulary ranging from 'incheb-ee', 'islayma', 'ibn al zafra', 'sarsaree', 'gawad', 'taras', 'barboog', 'thowla', 'booma', '3ama', 'quz al qurt', 'wuja3', 'ghabra', ..etc.

10. There is no such thing as elegant eating in an Iraqi household.

11. Everyone has at least one Ali in their immediate family.
 
12. If lunch doesn't include rice, its not considered a meal.


13. Kathem al Saher is considered handsome amongst Iraqis.
 
14. When Iraqi guys try to pick up girls, their approach is maybe a bit too aggressive "Hay shlown jamal ya bint al kalb", "Lich hay weyn ray7ah, ta3alee ihna, khen ger-gir?", "Shinoo hal kaykah, jawa3teenee".


15. Being romantic is foreign to Iraqis, when they try to be, it's so unsuitable that ladies prefer the true Iraqi way better.

16. Every Iraqi knows every family or clan in the entire nation of Iraq, and somehow you always know a specific story about them.

17. Every Iraqi you meet abroad was a neighbor or is a neighbor back home.

18. When Iraqis dance to 3adel 3ogla or Hatem al 3raqi, everyone returns to their im3aydee roots, everyone goes wild, and all the other non-Iraqis get scared.

19. Saying the word 'Baghdad' makes Iraqis cry hysterically.

20. During a wedding, all the young single people are checking each other out.

21. You've been beaten up to death by a Na3al (slipper) at least once in your life.

22. It is not biologically possible for Iraqis to have a small nose.

23. Sarcasm is part of Iraqi DNA, You never know whether the joke is a joke or not!

24. To be Iraqi you must drink chai (tea) five times a day.

25. Everyone owns a leather jacket, big shoulder pads and a thick belt is a MUST!
26. You have guests over for breakfast, lunch, dinner, and after midnight.


27. If an Iraqi accidentally trips on a banana peel in the street, he starts cursing and blaming the government.

28. Iraqis are all natural born faultfinders.

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 4/27/2007 2:56:02 AM   
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i meet a kurdish man yesterday and he say he is from a vilage in the north of iraq called shakalawah. the name remind me of the arabic sweet baklawa. do any one know what shakalwah mean or have any info on shakalawa?

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 4/27/2007 4:20:09 AM   
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Hi to you MA. I was born in the North of Iraq but can you believe I have never been to Irbil. I always heard about Shaklaw but for some reason we never made any trips to that village. I lived all my life in Baghdad and we went back to our own village called Mangeish only for the summer holidays. My mother tells me it is a pretty little place in the mountains surounding Irbil and is a touristic atraction in the area. If you chage the spelling to Shaqlawa you can recieve many results on google. Bye for now. zim

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 4/28/2007 12:58:59 AM   
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hello zimzim. welcome 2 iraq4u politics forum. i think all ppl on this forum iraqis only me & ys are from outside. thank u 4 yr explaining about shakalawa. i change the speling and u r rite there r many more answers this way. look forward 2 dicusing with u and hope u will write again soon.

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 4/29/2007 8:48:40 AM  1 votes
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Perhaps his parents had a vision when they named him Saddoomi? For those English speakers out there, here is the definition of the name Saddam:

Saddam (Arabic صدام) is an Arabic name, literally means "Someone who frequently Causes Collisions " Other meanings are "He who frequently Confronts" or "He who frequently Crashes." It could also mean "powerful commander."

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 5/5/2007 11:47:31 AM   
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I bet all none Iraqis thought the only Alexandria was in Egypt. WRONG!
 
Iskandariya (إسكندرية, also given as Iskandariyah, Iskanderiyah, Iskanderiya, Iskanderiyeh or Sikandariyeh) is an ancient town in central Iraq, one of a number of towns in the Near East named after Alexander the Great (Iskander in Arabic). It is largely populated by Shia Muslims, and is located about 25 miles (40 km) from Baghdad, near the Euphrates River.
 
In ancient times Iskandariya stood half way between Babylon (the place of Alexander's death) and Seleucia on the Tigris (the capital of the Seleucid Empire, very near to modern Baghdad).

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 5/5/2007 1:36:36 PM   
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thanx azinoerum. this is a veru good post becuase it gives intresting info about iraq. pls dont stop. what is the eaning of the city of mustansaria?

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 5/9/2007 5:42:30 AM   
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what is the eaning of the city of mustansaria?


Hi Mout: Mustansariya is a very old university in Baghdad. Established in 1233 by the Abbasid Caliph al-Mustansir. The college was incorporated into the Baghdad University in 1962. Its main focus is on teaching law and literature.

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 5/9/2007 8:03:28 AM  1 votes
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Terrific article about when Iraq was still a truly mixed ethnic society. This is the type of lifestyle these new Mulla run Militias would like us to lose forever.

Israelis from Iraq remember Babylon
By Lipika Pelham - Jerusalem  "During the Shia festival of Muharram we would take part in the procession and along with our Arab friends, beat our chests to remember the epic battle of Karbala," said Yakov Reuveni, remembering his youth in 1940s Iraq. "My best friend was the son of the mayor of Ammara. After school we would go out to the date palm grove with the freshly caught fish from the river Hidekel, which we would barbeque in the fields over an open fire."  The river Hidekel runs through his home province, Ammara, 380km (236 miles) south-east of Baghdad.
Among his most cherished memories, says Yakov, is the after-school stroll along the riverbank with his Arab friend. He grew up in a moderately well-to-do Jewish home with his parents, four siblings and grandparents. His father had a clothing store in the heart of Ammara's central market.
 
Nostalgia
It was an easy, happy life. Jews shared almost all aspects of life with their Arab neighbours, reminisces Yakov. He was 17 years old in 1951, when his family emigrated to Jerusalem. For the Jews of Middle Eastern origins, like their European co-religionists, coming to Israel was the culmination of a religious journey - it was the fulfilment of the centuries-old dream to live in the so-called Promised Land.
 
But many who came over to Israel as part of the mass migration that followed the creation of the Jewish state in 1948, look back with nostalgia and fondness for the life that they had left behind. Israel has a vibrant Iraqi Jewish community who arrived throughout the 1950s. Many Iraqi Jews settled in the area known as Mahane Yehuda in the heart of west Jerusalem.
 
It is a famous market with alleyways lined with grocery shops: rows after rows of shops laden with colourful fruit and vegetables, fresh fish, dried fruit, sweets, different kinds of bread, cheese, traditional salted fish. These stores are still mostly owned by the descendants of the Iraqi and Kurdish Jewish immigrants.
 
Fish feast
 
"The most memorable taste was the fish called maskuf, from the river Hidekel," says Yakov.
"After the Sabbath, we would wander off to the fields and have a feast with fish cooked on the spit, Iraqi pita and arak."
 
After maskuf and arak, a strong aniseed flavoured local alcoholic drink, the boys would go to Ammara's club to watch belly dancing. Yakov recalls, with vivid, powerful details, the life that he had once led, a life that was changed overnight by the political realities of the time.
 
"We used to eat with them, sleep with them, go to school with them, the Arabs and the Jews went to the same high school.
 
"We never thought of who was Jewish and who was Arab, until 1947. It all suddenly changed. The people that you knew as good people turned into bad people for you and you became bad for them. It was very sad."
 
Thinking in Arabic
In the heart of the Mahane Yehuda market is Cafe Mizrakhi, which specialises in certain traditional delicacies from Iraq. The word Mizrakhi means Oriental Jews.
 
It is owned by Eli Mizrakhi, whose family came from northern Iraq, or what is now known as Iraqi Kurdistan.
 
"Most of us still feel connected to the country where we or our ancestors came from. Our parents and our grandparents still remember many things from their Iraqi past and they bring them to us, with food, music, language."
 
Both Eli and Yakov agree that despite having gone through the process of assimilation into Israel, they keep alive many aspects of their previous lives, in particular, Iraqi food and speaking Arabic. "We used to eat kubbeh and bamia, or okra. The kubbeh, made with minced lamb, was the national food for the Jews all over Iraq. Thursday was the day of khitchri - it's a dish cooked with rice and lentils.
"I still think in Arabic, still I can't string together all my thoughts in Hebrew. You have to understand, my mother tongue is Arabic," says Yakov.
 
Now living in a small cottage with his wife in south Jerusalem, Yakov keeps himself busy recreating sweet pickled orange from his youth, while longing to someday return to Babylon.

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 5/13/2007 1:17:10 PM   
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Too many good Iraqis of all ethnic groups are being driven from their homes. This Iraqi Jew is one of millions who have been forced out since the last 50 years. My family are also victims who were forced to leave because our men refused to join the Baath Party and were falsly accused of being anti government. This ethnic cleansing is worse today in Iraq than ever before.

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 5/14/2007 4:36:27 PM   
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My family are also victims who were forced to leave because our men refused to join the Baath Party and were falsly accused of being anti government. 


Your family were lucky to get out. Many others tried to leave but couldn't afford it so they eventually joined the Baath Party in order to continue their professions (engineers in particular). They had no loyalty to the party but there was no other choice. Now many can't get work in Iraq because of their old baathi ties. Unfortunately the de-bathification process doesn't separate the hard core Baathists from the conscripts who had no choice.

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 5/16/2007 1:47:27 AM   
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We are thankfull for our blessings.

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 5/16/2007 4:05:55 PM   
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Kut (Arabic: الكوت; BGN: Al Kūt; also spelled Kut-Al-Imara or Kut El Amara)
 
Kut is a city in eastern Iraq, on the left bank of the Tigris River, about 100 miles south east of Baghdad. As of 2003 the estimated population is about 400,000 people. It is the capital of the province long known as Al Kut, but since the 1960s renamed Wasit.
 
The old town of Kut is within a sharp "U" bend of the river, almost making it an island but for a narrow connection to the shore. For centuries Kut was a regional center of the carpet trade. The area around Kut is a fertile cereal grain growing region. The Baghdad Nuclear Research Facility, looted following the 2003 invasion of Iraq, is located near Kut.
 
Further info
 
The economy of Kut is based upon the rich agriculture of the region, of which Kut is the main trade and administrative centre. Products include rice, creals, vegetables and dates.
 
Kut is remembered from the World War 1, for the battle where the British forces were defeated by Ottoman troops.

Key Dates
 
1916 April: British forces are defeated by Ottoman troops after 5 months siege. The war results in the leveling of the town.
1917 February: The British forces recaptures Kut.
1999 May: Fights between the Special Republican Guard (see
Iraq: Defence) and local resistance in the region of Kut.


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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 5/17/2007 6:40:46 AM   
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Hi azinorum. This is a very nice subject for us. Can you tell me where you are getting this information? thanks to you. zimzim

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 5/17/2007 3:50:49 PM   
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Hi zim. Various sources really. You can see most of them in my thread "Iraqi Websites".  but I also use Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons, Encyclopedia Britannica and others.

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 5/19/2007 3:15:42 AM   
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Thanks. Silly me.

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 5/20/2007 2:02:23 PM   
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Sadr City is a suburb built in Iraq in 1959 by Iraqi Prime Minister Abdul Karim Qassim in response to grave housing shortages in Baghdad. It was then named Revolution City ( مدينة ألثورة). It provided badly-needed housing for Baghdad's urban poor, many of whom had come from the countryside and who had until then lived in appalling conditions. It quickly became a stronghold of the Iraqi Communist Party, and resistance to the Baathist-led coup of 1963 was strong there.

After suffering a variety of ill effects under the Baathist government of
Saddam Hussein, under whose rule the district was renamed Saddam City, Shi'as in the district claimed a degree of autonomy from the rest of Iraq after the foreign occupation of Baghdad in April 2003, with their own police force, clinics, and food distribution. At the same time, the district was unofficially renamed Sadr City.

The landmark of Sadr City is undoubtedly the large municipal building, which was reportedly ordered constructed for Saddam Hussein, who gave a single speech from its balcony and never returned to either the building or the city again.

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 5/20/2007 2:08:21 PM   
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Well it is now kinda like an iraqi city. Hopefully temporary but it will always be remembered what ever happens.

The Green Zone is a 10 km² (4 mile²) area in central Baghdad that is the main base for coalition officials in Iraq. Its official name under the Iraq interim government is the International Zone. While this was to be the designation—and they pushed hard to keep people from using the old one—as of early 2006, the term "Green Zone" is back in full swing and even beginning to reappear in official publications. The contrasting Red Zone particularly refers to parts of Baghdad immediately outside the perimeter, but is also loosely applied to all unsecured areas outside the off-site military posts. Both terms (Red and Green Zone) originated as military designations.

The area was originally home to the villas of government officials, several government ministries, and a number of palaces of
Saddam Hussein and his family. The largest of these was the Republican Palace that was Saddam's primary seat of power.

The region was taken by American forces in April
2003, in some of the heaviest fighting in Baghdad. Few American soldiers were killed, but many Iraqis died. In the lead up to invasion Saddam and most of the other residents of the area fled fearing arrest by Coalition forces or reprisals by Iraqis.

While most of the ministry buildings had been destroyed by airstrikes, this left a sizeable number of buildings in central Baghdad abandoned. The
Coalition Provisional Authority administrators who arrived on the heels of the invading forces decided this left them ideal for use by Coalition administrators. Jay Garner, head of the reconstruction team, set up his headquarters in the Republican Palace; other villas were taken by groups of government officials and private contractors. Eventually some five thousand officials and civil contractors settled in the area.

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 5/20/2007 2:09:57 PM   
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Ar Rutbah (Arabic:الرطب, also known as Rutba, Rutbah, or Ar Rutba) is a small Iraqi town in western Al Anbar province. The population is approximately 25,000. It occupies a strategic located on Amman-Baghdad road, and Mosul-Haifa pipeline. Considered a "wet spot," it receives 114.3 mm (4.5 inches) of rain annually, and is located on a high plateau.

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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 5/20/2007 5:41:46 PM   
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Cheers LOB. One more for today:

Muqdadiyah (Arabic: مقدادية‎)
(also transliterated Al-Muqdadiyah, Muqdadia, Miqdadiyah) is a major city in the Diyala Governorate of Iraq.

This city was a part of the
Persian Sassanid Empire and had the Persian name Shahrban, meaning "city-protector". After the Arab attack on Iran, Arabs changed the Persian name to the Arabic, calling it after Muqdad.

The city is located at , about 80 km northeast of
Baghdad and 30 km northeast of Baquba, the capital of Diyala.

It has a population of about 200.000 inhabitants, most of them Sunni.


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RE: Names of Iraqi cities.. origins & meaning? - 5/21/2007 9:08:11 AM   
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You know you're Iraqi when...
11. Everyone has at least one Ali in their immediate family.
 

Oh, Man… This makes me a NON-Iraqi… I guess I have to go search for my nationality now. Bummer, drat, and double drat.

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