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Calm -> What will happen next? (2/21/2007 8:20:10 AM)

Blair announces Iraq troops cut


Some 7,000 UK troops are currently serving in IraqPrime Minister Tony Blair has announced plans to reduce British forces in Iraq.
Mr Blair told MPs the 7,100 British troops serving in Iraq would be cut by 1,600 shortly, with hopes that another 500 could leave by the end of summer.
He said a British military presence would remain in Iraq into 2008, helping to secure the Iran border, supply routes and supporting Iraqis if needed.
Basra remained a "dangerous" place but he said that Iraqis would "write the next chapter" in its history.
'Robust force'
The proposed cut in numbers of British troops comes at the same time as 21,500 more US troops are being sent to Iraq.

[image]http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42597000/gif/_42597107_uk_troop_numbers203.gif[/image] COALITION FORCES
US -132,000UK - 7,100South Korea - 3,200Poland - 900Georgia - 800-850Australia - 900Romania - 600-865Denmark - 460El Salvador - 380Bulgaria - 150Sources: Brookings Institution; Globalsecurity.org; media reports
The White House has confirmed that President Bush and Mr Blair had discussed the plans on Tuesday.
A spokesman said: "The United States shares the same goal of turning responsibility over to the Iraqi Security Forces and reducing the number of American troops in Iraq."
However, opponents of Mr Bush's strategy have seized on Britain's move and are using it to attack the president.
Wednesday's statement comes after Mr Blair told the BBC's Sunday AM that the operation to allow Iraqis to take the lead in frontline security in Basra - Operation Sinbad - had been "completed" and "successful".
He said there was progress on reconstruction and that he did not want British troops to get in the way of that progress.
Vacuum danger
In October the head of the British Army, Sir Richard Dannatt, warned that the presence of UK soldiers in Iraq was exacerbating security problems, and said they should "get out some time soon".
But Iraqi deputy prime minister, Barham Saleh, said last week that Basra might not be entirely ready to take over the running of its own affairs.
He said they had to be sure any withdrawal of British troops did not undermine security and create a vacuum.


Liberal Democrat leader Sir Menzies Campbell said a reduction in British forces in Iraq was to be welcomed.
"But I still believe that our presence exacerbates the security situation and we should have a target for the withdrawal of all British troops by the end of October this year," he said.



Calm -> RE: What will happen next? (2/21/2007 8:36:44 AM)

Salam my friends

From what I have heard that Basra, Omara and other southern cities are having terrible time with insurgents, kidnapping, killings and the all the modern twenty first century holiday activities.

Altough we don't want any forgien troops in Iraq, we cannot do without them.  Iraqi police and army are not ready yet defend the country and the people.  They are badly equiped and in desperate need of modernised weapons.  Also there are still bad elements within these forces who support one side and not the other, helping one side and not the other, and allowing the conflict to continue for a price.  Those individuals need to be dealt with before any reduction of any forces.

Another point which has been brought to my attention is the elimination of Iraqi Christians by both the Shias and the Sunnis.  And for what?

I wish I know the solution.



Harry -> RE: What will happen next? (2/21/2007 4:16:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Calm
Another point which has been brought to my attention is the elimination of Iraqi Christians by both the Shias and the Sunnis.  And for what?

I wish I know the solution.


Most of those radicals believe that the west is doing this in the name of Christianity; they still think that the invaders are carrying out the continuation of the crusaders war (ألصليبيين). That is what some of the extremist Mullahs are teaching them; forgetting that the Christians (Iraqi Christians) have suffered and still suffering for the country they call home, most of them are actually native to the land, they were there even before Islam swept the area.
 
Never the less, they are persecuted today, just as they were decades ago by those who call themselves servants of god not knowing that they are the real enemies of god.



azinorum -> RE: What will happen next? (2/22/2007 7:12:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Harry
Never the less, they are persecuted today, just as they were decades ago by those who call themselves servants of god not knowing that they are the real enemies of god.


These people are not Muslims. They have ****ised Islam and used it for their own benefit. As I said in one of my previous posts they persecuted and Jews of Iraq too and we ended up losing one of our great human resources. The lose of our Christian community will be a tragedy for our country. The smaller ethnic groups are what makes Iraq unique in the Arab world but unfortunately the Islami Extremist element can't see past their fake turbans. 



Harry -> RE: What will happen next? (2/22/2007 11:22:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: azinorum
These people are not Muslims. They have ****ised Islam and used it for their own benefit. As I said in one of my previous posts they persecuted and Jews of Iraq too and we ended up losing one of our great human resources. The lose of our Christian community will be a tragedy for our country. The smaller ethnic groups are what makes Iraq unique in the Arab world but unfortunately the Islami Extremist element can't see past their fake turbans. 


That is the problem with those nonhumans, they feel that they enjoy a superiority over all people, and it is their duty to cleanse the world from those who have a different ideology about life. They also believe that they are following the ways of the prophet Mohammed in spreading Islam, disregarding the fact that the prophet resorted to war only against those who refused to believe in the one and only god, and not against other believers.
 
I am sure that Islam, and the Qur’an did forbid the killing and/or the persecution of other believers.



azinorum -> RE: What will happen next? (2/22/2007 12:59:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Harry 
I am sure that Islam, and the Qur’an did forbid the killing and/or the persecution of other believers.


Absolutely. All religions start off with the best of intentions but end up being used and abused. We are not a civilised as we think, in fact human nature sucks.



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