هل حقيقة انت لا تعرف هذا الشخص الذي تخاطبه انه شخص معتوه وشريطه حافي اننا فقط نجامله لانه يحب العراق مع العلم انه لا يعرف حدودها ويتصورها دخلت الى تركيا وسوريا فجميع الاخوان ومنهم عقراوي والعاني يجاملوه فلا تضيع وقتك مع هذا الكويل المعوق عقليا والسلام
from what my arabic friend is telling me frm you are posting that you believe in these borders around iraq so you that syria and turkey took part of your land to them and you do not care about it and telling azinorum that he is wasting time with me, so you do not care if other countries take another part of your land as well, god you iraqis are strange in every way, god i do not know why that you the most people in the world are suffering in every way only people and rest of the world they do not have any problems, i do not no why mesopotamia has to suffer why you people have to suffer maybe you like wars and killing each other and hating each other, look at america or india or japan or any other countries they love each other and do not kill each, that is why the arabs tell me that you iraqis are always hipacrites (monafiqin) from you never halped imam husain and let him die that is why the arabs always acusing you iraqis for KILLING IMAM HUSAIN THE SON OF IMAM ALI BIN ABY TALIB (PEACE BE UPON HIM) you iraqis never get along, that is azinorum i am proud to be american because we always get along and respect each other and all the people around the world come and live in my country america and live in peace, BUT YOU IRAQIS GOD YU PEOPLE LIKE TO KILL EACH OTHER THAT IS WHY ALLAH THE MIGHTY GOD IS PUNISHING YOU BECAUSE YOU NEVER GET ALONG CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, AND ALSO SAIFALI I KNOW BORDERS OF IRAQ IT IS ALL FAKE FROM THE DAYS OF THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE AND THE BRITISH ENVASION AND DIVIFING MESOPOTAMIA AND THEY TO DIVIDE IT MORE, REALLY REALLY I CANNOT UNDERSTAND YOU PEOPLE IRAQIS.
ORIGINAL: sadiq2006 saifali look at america or india or japan or any other countries they love each other and do not kill each, that is why the arabs tell me that you iraqis are always hipacrites (monafiqin) from you never halped imam husain and let him die that is why the arabs always acusing you iraqis for KILLING IMAM HUSAIN THE SON OF IMAM ALI BIN ABY TALIB (PEACE BE UPON HIM) you iraqis never get along
Sadiq, Sadiq, Sadiq. What are we to do with you? We couldn’t give monkeys Assss about what other Arab munafiqeen think about us. You can pass this comment on to your learned friend who is feeding you this BS. I refuse to enter into this type of discussion because this is a political forum not a religious one. Your Arab friend can continue to point the finger and refer to events that happened 1346 years ago. Let him wallow in his ignorance and you too if this is what you want. Being that you both only want to refer to Mesopotamia’s religious past, let me give you an alternative history that has nothing to do with religion. Iraq/Mesopotamia is the first known civilization in the world. Our indigenous peoples gave the world the earliest writing and some of the first sciences, mathematics, laws and philosophies in the world. Most of these achievements came 5000 years before Islam but this was a long time ago and people have selective memories, you and your friend included.
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that is azinorum i am proud to be american because we always get along and respect each other and all the people around the world come and live in my country america and live in peace, BUT YOU IRAQIS GOD YU PEOPLE LIKE TO KILL EACH OTHER THAT IS WHY ALLAH THE MIGHTY GOD IS PUNISHING YOU BECAUSE YOU NEVER GET ALONG CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, AND ALSO SAIFALI I KNOW BORDERS OF IRAQ IT IS ALL FAKE FROM THE DAYS OF THE OTTOMAN EMPIRE AND THE BRITISH ENVASION AND DIVIFING MESOPOTAMIA AND THEY TO DIVIDE IT MORE, REALLY REALLY I CANNOT UNDERSTAND YOU PEOPLE IRAQIS.
Lol. I’m happy that you finally spelt my name right. So according to you all Americans like to live in peace? Let’s examine your statement. Given that the US didn’t have sovereignty until after their revolutionary war ended we will take it from there. In less than 200 years the Americans have started or been actively engaged in the following conflicts:
War of 1812, Mexican-American War, American Civil War, Spanish-American War, World War I, World War II, Korean War, Vietnam War, Gulf War, Afghanistan and Gulf war II.
That’s quite an achievement for a peace loving country, don’t you agree. Let’s not forget that your country actually belongs to the Native Indians and Alaskans who were unceremoniously shoved to one side and oppressed for 300 years (they still are). Let’s not forget the wonderful civil rights record your country has. It was only 40 years ago that a black man was forbidden from using the same toilets, eating in the same restaurants and prohibited from sending his children to the same schools as his white countrymen. Be proud Sadiq. Be selectively proud!
first my arabic friend had nothing to do with it, the other arabs said that and keep saying that you iraqis are killers and the traitors my arabic friend had nothing to do with it so do not accusing him for nothing whether the americans have bad history in their past it in the past, but you iraqis are still repeating the same mistakes again and again and again and again and again and it will never stop so do not compare you iraqis to the americans you understand me and second i said many that history is 8000 or 7000 years ago not 5000 ok, and what the americans did before they learned their mistakes and achieved it and lived in harmony and do not forget that your are about 400,000 iraqis living in america and happy their do you understand azinorum.
and about the native americans that died 300 years ago believe i feel sorry for them and black people too, yes my ancestors they were bad but that does not mean they still hate until now do you understand, you mesopotamians try to bring back that were stolen from you in syria and turkey and you that very well that it is your ancestors not for the syrians or the turkeys which i mean (the furat river and dijla that passes in these two countries) and you know that very well what i mean and hence that many people around the world want to destrou mesopotamia espacially the countries around your fake politicle borders.
I WILL ALWAYS RESPECT MESOPOTAMIA NOT BECAUSE OF YOU, BUT IT HAS 8000 YEARS HISTORY AND I VERY VERY VERY ENVY THEM AND THE LAND OF THE FIRST PROPHETS, AND I WILL REPEAT MY FRIEND HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT YOU BETTER LEAVE HIM ALONE, IT IS THOSE BASTERD ARABS ARE SAYING THAT.
my arabic friend had nothing to do with it so do not accusing him for nothing. AND I WILL REPEAT MY FRIEND HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT YOU BETTER LEAVE HIM ALONE
Don't worry, tell your buddy he's safe. As you defended him so passionately I've decided to spare him and not send the boys over to rough him up.
oh my god, oh my god, azinorum from where you brought this crazy people muslims it is so discusting i think it is in iran i am sure of it, it is so so so so discusting these are really crazy IF THESE PEOPLE RULED IRAQ LIKE THAT, IRAQ WILL DISAPPEAR FOREVER.
Thanks to recent events it looks like Kirkuk is going down the Baghdad road to ruin.
Suicide bomber kills 9 in northern Iraq By BRIAN MURPHY, Associated Press Writer
BAGHDAD, Iraq - A suicide car bomber rammed into a crowded market in northern Iraq moments after a booby-trapped vehicle exploded Saturday, killing at least nine people and injuring 60, police said.
The back-to-back blasts in the oil hub of Kirkuk broke a brief lull in major violence around the country as U.S. and Iraqi forces try to regain control of Baghdad and other key areas from gangs and militias. Full story Below:
ORIGINAL: sadiq2006 oh my god, oh my god, azinorum from where you brought this crazy people muslims it is so discusting i think it is in iran i am sure of it, it is so so so so discusting these are really crazy IF THESE PEOPLE RULED IRAQ LIKE THAT, IRAQ WILL DISAPPEAR FOREVER.
The main issue, in my opinion, is that we view each other as different, sects, tribes, ethnicities, etc., rather than equal members of a single nation. Those divisive mentalities that have plagued us for so many years are the main causes of our woes. We need to wake up and become conscious of our national identity. Otherwise we will continue to be easy prey for foreign powers aiming to dominate us and exploit our country.
The Arab nationalist ideologies that dominated our nation were in essence ethnic and tribal-based ideologies, that had no scientific or intellectual bases. As such, all people within our nation who were viewed as "non-Arabs" were treated as "guests" on "Arab" land, rather than equal citizens of a single nation. Therefore, the Kurds were seen and treated as foreigners who are welcome as guests as long as they respect "Arab" character of our country. This type of mentality led to the disintegration of our national unity. Likewise, the Kurds viewed themselves as outside the national framework and thus their interests could only be protected with an ethnically Kurdish entity in the regions they inhabit.
The solution to all these problems is national consciousness. When we begin to realize that we all belong to a single nation with a single interest in life, our efforts will be directed at serving our NATIONAL rather than our PARTICULARISTIC interest. Our national unity would then act as a barrier to foreign exploitation and domination of our country and would protect our national interest, thereby bringing prosperity to our nation and raising our standard of living.
the kurds never about anything just read the history of them from 200 years ago at the days of the ottoman empire, they doing these bad transforming everything like irbil and sulaimaniya and dahuk in kurd identity is bullshit and they want transform all the mesopotamian in the north to lurdistan how discusting, THEY ARE DOING THIS FOR RULING OIL AND MONEY NOT FOR KURDISTAN THAT HAPPEND BEFORE EVEN.
Mr Hanibaal Khaddam What you said was the reality which we must following it.
السلام عليكم
افضل ان اكتب باللغة العربية لان لغتي الثانية هي الفرنسية لاني اقع في اخطاء احيانا باللغة الانجليزية فارجو المعذرة واحب ان اقول لك ان الطبيعة البشرية السوية او حتى في المواد المتجانسة ترفض الجسم الغريب القادم لاول مرة وبعد ذلك تتاقلم معه وتتعايش فهذا لا اعتقد انه عيب كبير انما هو من وحي الطبيعة وماهية الخلق ولنرجع الى المثال الذي ورد في حديثك عن الاخوان الاكراد فمن الطبيعي على اي عربي يدخل عنده ضيف ولا يفهم لغته فهو سيحتاج الى فترة زمنية للتاقلم معه وفهمه وهذا ما وقع للاخوان الاكراد عندما نزحوا من مناطق بين القوقاز او ارارات او جبال تركيا على سبيل المثال ولهم لغة مختلفة بقوا لعشرات السنين محط ريبة للعرب في العراق وسوريا وللعجم في بلاد فارس الخ الا ان انتمائهم الى الاسلام انهى تسعون بالمئة من هذه الريبة بالنسبة للعرب بصورة خاصة واصبح العرب يعاملونهم بان لا فرق بين عربي وعجمي الا بالتقوى وبالرغم من ان الحالة الاقتصادية للعرب انذاك ليست بالمستوى الذي نحن عليه الان والحياة هي فلاحية بدوية مع قلة في الثقافة والوعي الانساني والفكري الذي نحن عليه الان اما الان فلم تبقى هذه النزعات الطائفية والعرقية بالشكل الذي كان سابقا فالانسات الواعي لا يفرق بين عربي او كردي او اثوري انه عراقي او سوري اسوة بابناء الشعب اي كان ومع ذلك تبقى بعض الحزازات واللوم على الاخطاء الا انها بالنسبة للشعوب الواعية سرعان ما تضمحل وتنتهي وخاصة اذا كان الاحتكاك وليس التاقلم الضيق ولا شك نحن في العراق لا زلنا نعاني قلة المقاربات بيننا او ما يسمى بالفرنسية
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اذن فنحن بحاجة الى هذه المقاربة في الوقت الحاضر لنعيد بناء وطننا على اسس سليمة وليس بالتاقلم وتقسيم العراق الى فدراليات منعزلة ربما تنظم الفيزا فيما بينها مستقبلا لاننا بهذا نقضي على وطنيتنا ونشتت مواطنينا عبر هذه السياسة المبنية على حب الزعامات او التناقض الاثني والطائفي وللحديث بقية والسلام عليكم
< Message edited by al ani -- 3/8/2007 6:12:51 PM >
اكيد ان تنوع مكونات الشعب العراقي تعطيه الاطلاع والتنوع في شؤون ثقافة الامم وهذا ما حصل ان الاخ المسمى خدام يتصور ان العرب في العراق لهم نظرة مختلفة على الاكراد او التركمان او الكلو اشور وربما نظرته هذه تدل على انه لا يعرف حقيقة مجتمعنا بالرغم من انه من قطر مجاورولهذا وجب التنبيه الى ان صلاح الدين الايوبي كان قائدا للعربوالمسلمين الاخرين او ربما الاكراد في سوريا منعزلين عن العرب هناك ولم تصل العلاقات كما هي بالعراق وطبعا بغض النظر عن سلوك الحكام السابقين
< Message edited by saifali -- 3/10/2007 6:54:54 AM >
اجتماع ثاني لالف شخصية عربية وتركمانية في كركوك لاعطاء اشارة العرب والتركمان في العراق الى اليد الطامعة في مدينة الوحدة الوطنية وتغير الوضع الديموغرافي الحالي وانتهاك حرية العراقيين في العيش الحر والتمتع بوطنهم وكذلك عدم المساس بالاشقاء الاكراد واعطائهم حق السكن في كركوك لمن تضرر منهم وهذه المرة الاشارة تؤكد للحكومة ان العرب والتركمان لا يريدون ان تستقر بغداد لوحدها بل استقرار كركوك ايضا وعدم نقل الحرب الطائفية الى كركوك بدلا من بغداد والحليم تكفيه الاشارة العراقي ابي ولا يسمح بالتجزئة ورسم خارطة طائفية في بلده والسلام
لقد تم تفجير ثلاث سيارات هذا اليوم في كركوك على اثر ربط هذه المدينة في اتصالات منطقة الحكم الذاتي ونتمنى ان ان يعتبروا الاوباش من هذا الحدث ويرجعوا الى صوابهم ويبتعدوا عن مدينة الوحدة الوطنية والا سيكون مصيرهم مجهول
did the kurds learned their mistakes when they will know that these cities in the uppor north of mesopotamia and the irbil and sulaimania and dahuk are not and never kurdish when they learn their mistakes and find that they do not have any original cities and they do not belong to mesopotamia and they the history for their own benefit and know that these are original mesopotamian and not and never will kurds cities because all the people around the world knows that it is mesopotamian cities, GOD WHEN THE KURDS LEARN THEIR MISTAKES AND TELL THE TRUTH AROUND THE WORLD OF THEIR BLACK HISTORY.
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